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Old Posted Jan 24, 2007, 2:15 PM
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Little opposition to train project
BY ROGER DUPUIS II
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01/24/2007
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ANDOVER, N.J. — Project officials were surprised, though clearly not displeased, at what they didn’t hear from the public Tuesday during a meeting on the proposed Scranton-Hoboken passenger train project.





Unlike meetings held here several years ago, during an earlier phase of the $551 million project, concerns about noise and disruption seemed comparatively few.

What changed?

“Is Interstate 80 traffic getting worse? Is that it? We don’t know,” said project manager Jeffrey D. Stiles. He’s executive vice president of Edwards and Kelcey, an engineering firm that worked on an environmental study for New Jersey Transit, which is now being put to the public for comment, at meetings like the one held here Tuesday.

People in at least 448 homes along the 133-mile route — including 118 homes between Scranton and Pocono Mountain — would have some audible impact from the line, defined as noticeable noise but insufficient to make people react adversely. Another 38 homes — nine in New Jersey and 29 in Monroe County — would be severely impacted, defined as highly annoying noise. None in Lackawanna County would be severely impacted.

The most intense source of noise could be trains blowing their whistles at grade crossings, and two key crossings are in the Andover area.

There may be light at the end of that tunnel. Mr. Stiles said New Jersey Transit would work with the Federal Railroad Administration, which sets the rules for when trains must use whistles, to install other safety devices at crossings. That might make whistle-blowing unnecessary, and perhaps eliminate the noise issue for those 38 homes.

Whether that plan was evident to those who formerly raised noise concerns is unclear.

This much is clear: New Jersey Transit’s stenographer took down about 25 formal verbal statements Thursday — about four times the number received at last week’s public meeting in Scranton. Among the Andover comments, few seemed to be against the line.

However, unlike at the Scranton meeting, transit officials did not allow the audience to ask questions in front of the group at Andover, but said they were open to answering questions afterward. Whether this format deterred some worried neighbors is also unclear.

Residents also have the chance to submit written or e-mail comments, so it’s possible those with concerns may voice their opinion that way. The public comment period ends March 2, and there will be two more meetings: Thursday in Stroudsburg and Monday in Blairstown, N.J.

Then again, perhaps Mr. Stiles’ comment about growing highway congestion wasn’t so far off the mark.

“I don’t want my neighbors to be inconvenienced,” said Jefferson Township, N.J. resident Charles Smith, who drives to work in Paramus, and would rather take a train.

“But by the same time, I’m in traffic on I-80 most days surrounded by people with Pennsylvania license plates,” he said, adding that the noise, traffic and pollution created by the mass of New York-bound commuters could be mitigated with trains.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2007, 2:37 PM
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Clay Avenue Apartments are the low red brick buildings on the left.

Tell us, what is the larger white building, por favor?
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De nada. That would be Plaza 1500 condominiums. I would love to have a place atop that building. The views of Scranton and the valley are awesome from there.
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^^ Grazi!
Its a handsome building.....I'm liking the top floor units with the slanted glass....imagine the rain falling on it...and maybe a foghorn....heh
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....This is completely anti-climactic in view of all the hype that took place before the end of 2005 when it would have been groundbreaking.....
but, better later than never....

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Wire Free Wilkes-Barre moves ahead with Wi-Fi plan

WILKES-BARRE – Wire Free Wilkes-Barre gave its CEO and attorney the green light on Thursday to finalize negotiations with an equipment distributor and a service provider.

But before the deals can be completed, the executive board of the non-profit organization must sign off on it.

The group hopes to have wireless Internet and security cameras throughout the city by the end of the summer. Board members consist of representatives of the four entities that make up the organization – Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne County, King’s College and Wilkes-University.

For more, read Friday’s Times Leader.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2007, 1:41 PM
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Slice of life in Scranton: $20 Million project delayed by Pizza place....

(The only other NEPA news today was the slaying of a gay porn producer in Dallas, PA, not TX---that's suburban Wilkes-Barre...shocking stuff in the local upscales, I fear....)

01/26/2007
Redevelopment battle joined
BY STACY BROWN
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City Council has thrown its support behind Buona Pizza in the restaurant’s eminent domain battle with the city administration.


One day after Mayor Chris Doherty said the city was moving forward with procedures to use its authority to take the pizzeria, council members vowed not to support the redevelopment project planned for the 500 block of Lackawanna Avenue.

That project is the reason Buona Pizza could be forced out of its 504 Lackawanna Ave. building.

“Whatever legislation that comes before us for that project should not be supported if Mr. Doherty insists on running Buona Pizza out of there,” Councilwoman Janet Evans said Thursday.

“I intend to protect the businesses we have,” Mrs. Evans said. “The businesses that have supported this city and have not gotten a free ride should be supported.”

No formal vote was taken on the issue, but council President Judy Gatelli and Councilman Bill Courtright said they were unsure what else the panel could do to assist the popular eatery, whose owner wants to remain on Lackawanna Avenue.

“Are we powerless?” Mr. Courtright asked. “Do we have influence?”

The building that houses Buona Pizza has been condemned, but the eatery’s lawyer has filed preliminary objections to prevent the condemnation.

“We have made them an offer, and we haven’t heard back from them,” Mr. Doherty said Wednesday. “We are willing to work with them.”

Owner Giovanni Piccolino said the city has not offered him an opportunity to stay, despite Mr. Doherty’s statement to the contrary.

“They have only offered the real estate value of the building, and they want us out,” said Mr. Piccolino, who attended Thursday’s council meeting and received applause from spectators.

Developer Donald Rinaldi is scheduled to begin work in the spring on the project, which is expected to be a mix of boutiques, restaurants, artist spaces and apartments, Mr. Doherty said.

The $20 million project has been fraught with delays and questions since it was proposed more than two years ago.

Other businesses in the block say that while they support the project, many questions have gone without answers.

“We’ve had discussions with the city and have sent out many right-to-know requests that we’ve been trying to get answers for and have not,” said Kate Moran, whose family owns Coney Island Texas Lunch.

“I want our customers to know we’re not going anywhere,” Ms. Moran said.

“We’re trying to be reasonable, but the developer has not provided any cooperation. We’ve been held up on what to do with our property, and our hands are tied.”

Contact the writer: sbrown@timesshamrock.com
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2007, 2:46 PM
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I am a big fan of Doherty and the progress Scranton has made under his administration. This project is exciting and will, when combined with the Jefferson Point project, rejuivinate that part of town. That being said, how can you drive out a successful business like Buona Pizza? The City has to work something out, keep the pizza place in its current building or guarantee them a spot in the new development. What do you think?
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I've got mixed feelings about eminent domain, and its potential for abuse. An office equipment & supplies store in Ithaca held up one of the biggest projects in downtown's history. An impasse had been reached in property purchase value negotiations. After the threat of eminent domain procedures, both parties went back to the table and a compromise was worked out (involving the business moving to a recently vacated space in a prime location). Ended up being a win-win. I hope a similar result can happen in Scranton.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2007, 10:01 PM
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Thanks Snakeyes for the added insight.

It's not easy, is it.....on one hand Pizza guy has been steady Freddy staying in Scranton thru thick and thin....now about to be cast aside....on the other hand this project will benefit downtown Scranton and could increase Mr. Pizzeria's business although he must 'suck wind', as it were, while his new shop is built, should that end up being the arrangement.....what would be fair compensation for his trouble, on that basis? Scranton sure doesn't have money to spare.....

Moreover, it sounds as though others are not completely on board with the project, so there could be other obstacles...Texas Lunch, for example.
Looks like there's is a ways to go before this gets the go-ahead....yes?

Maybe it (the project) isn't the right solution as it stands....I have no clue, but I'll make a point of coming to the site, if there's time, next time I'm in NePA. As I recall, the area is kind of dead but nicely old-fashioned in some ways.....

Sorry, I'm not the point man in this arena....'cept maybe the Pizza guy should threaten to move to Wilkes-Barre...scare their butts....
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2007, 10:19 PM
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I am a big fan of Doherty and the progress Scranton has made under his administration. This project is exciting and will, when combined with the Jefferson Point project, rejuivinate that part of town. That being said, how can you drive out a successful business like Buona Pizza? The City has to work something out, keep the pizza place in its current building or guarantee them a spot in the new development. What do you think?
Like you, Snakeyes, I'm a proponent of all that Doherty has accomplished in Scranton. That block of Lackawanna is like the missing piece of the puzzle of an otherwise completely revitalized street. The plan sounds excellent and definitely should be implemented. I also look forward to the Jefferson Pointe project.

Like most eminent domain conflicts, this will get resolved...eventually. Given Scranton's history of lawsuit mania, it's likely it will be dragged out for a long time. I hope not. I think that the city, in order to get this important project finally going, should try to make an extra effort to work with the owners of Buona to ensure they do not hold up this revitalization for years and years. Plus, Buona has stuck it out and remained a downtown business for years when downtown was NOT the place to be. It doesn't make sense to treat them like an unwanted stepchild. For cripes sake, build around them if they have to. Let's the ball rolling on this and not destroy a loyal, successful business while we're at it.
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It's not easy, is it.....on one hand Pizza guy has been steady Freddy staying in Scranton thru thick and thin
"thick and thin"...good pizzapun, dony.
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"thick and thin"...good pizzapun, dony.
Completely unintended.....thanx for the credit anyway...heh..this could mean that I've been punning too long and am now out of control, needing to go wherever hyperpunsters go to detox.....but, I'm grateful that I didn't come up with something really cheesy.........

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^ Let's face it dony, you've been out of control for a long time now.
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Well, the longer you live, the greater the odds that you'll become a vaunted intellectual or a superannuated kid...... but sooner or later everybody gets goofy for one reason or another....
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Great big fat news for NePA

Well, maybe. But it's closer to reality. The idea of a big cargo airport at Hazleton has been kicked around for a decade...it might now be more than a dream, it seems, to the tune of 5,000 jobs, and multi Million$ in investment.....potentially tens of thousands more jobs as/should the new 'port attract businesses....

Cargo airport eyed for ATV park’s land

Gladstone Partners L.P. is suing owner of Paragon Adventure Park in Hazle Township to get land for facility, state source says.

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/times...printstory.jsp


Cargo airport gets varied reaction. Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Airport officials not thrilled...
http://www.timesleader.com/mld/times...printstory.jsp


Similar project in Tennessee created astronomical boom
http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site...ewsid=17787222

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According to late news, this cargo airport thing is more advanced that it seems...this sounds like a formal announcement, with details tomorrow....Overall, $1.1 Billion, 4000+ direct jobs, 150,000+ indirect jobs....this is giant planning...shockingly so for Luzerne County. Wonder if it'll fly? (pardonnez moi )
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Declaring coal mining dead, government and business leaders Wednesday turned to the skies and disclosed plans for a $1.16 billion cargo airport to carry the region’s economy into the future. The airport would be operated by Luzerne County on a 4,300-acre site to be developed by Gladstone Partners LP near Hazleton. Officials said the project would create 4,533 jobs directly, 161,000 indirectly and not be built with any federal money. Funding would come from a combination of county, state and private sources. For more information read Thursday’s Times Leader.






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Now that is an amazing project if it happens. A cargo airport could create over 100,000 jobs. I bet the region would boom like the time of the mines. Might even speed up the train service to Jersey. This is one to watch.
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Yep. Staggering and would usher in huge changes.....might be a good time to buy some property back there? But not nearby, unless you really love airport noise a lot......count me out.....

I wonder if I shouldn't start a separate thread for NePa business--"changing times". In addition to this air cargo project, there's the "Wall St' West" deal being looked at. Moreover, this week it was announced that Sanofi-Pasteur, headquartered in Swiftwater, Monroe County is fixin' to buy Brsitol-Myers- Squibb...no small deal in itself....

All this adds up to a new and unusual business cycle/ profile for NePA; it also hearalds the increasing tie-in to metro NYC, for better or worse. Granted, the Wall St. West concept as well as the Cargo port at Hazle Twnship have the added rationale of being created in the interest of homeland security-backup-facilities. Be that as it may--or might not-----it's the rationale-de-jour- for a buncha guys to make a financial killing by striking while the iron is hot....and NePa seems to be in the furnace.....

The cargo port is expected to be a $17 Billion (gasp--that's nearly more than EX-Ithacan's net worth) engine according to today's published report; construction might begin this summer, completion in 2010, the Luzerne County commissioners are proceeding to establish an authoority to run the thing, since it will be county-owned, and FAA approvals are the first hurdles to be attacked & overcome.....

FROM TODAY'S NEWS:

02/01/2007
Airport would bring new jobs, identity
BY MICHAEL P. BUFFER
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HAZLE TWP. — A cargo-only airport near Hazleton would introduce the international economy to Northeastern Pennsylvania and infuse $17 billion to the regional economy, project backers said Wednesday.

“This initiative with one swing of the bat — one swing of the bat — wipes out the 30, 40, 50 years we have struggled to reidentify ourselves due to the loss of the coal mining industry,” Luzerne County Commissioner Greg Skrepenak said at First Quality Nonwovens in the Humboldt Industrial Park during an announcement of the $1.6 billion project.

The project would be a partnership between the state, the county and Gladstone Partners, which has an agreement to buy 4,300 acres of former mining land in Hazle Township and parts of Schuylkill County for the airport development project. After securing all federal, state and local approvals, the airport should be built in 18 to 30 months, officials said.

The “first key hurdle” is getting airspace approval from the Federal Aviation Administration, said state Rep. Todd Eachus, D-Hazle Township. After getting airspace approval, Gladstone Partners and a new county airport authority would not seek federal money for the project to avoid what could be a drawn-out federal approval process, Eachus said.

Construction is expected to begin in this summer and conclude in 2010. New federal legislation requiring the inspection of all air cargo in three years is expected to generate private investment in the project, officials said.

A mixture of state, local and private money is expected to fund the $1.6 billion project. The airport facility and a 13,000-foot runway would cost about $500 million.

Eachus said a cargo airport in Fort Worth, Texas, was funded with private money “outside the FAA-approval process.” That airport opened in 1989 and is touted as the first purely industrial airport in the United States.

Gladstone Partners claims the project would create 4,533 airport-related jobs, including jobs for airlines, cargo handlers, security companies and warehouses.

“No minimum wage jobs,” Skrepenak said. “They are going to be high technical jobs, aviation jobs.”

The project is also expected to indirectly create 161,000 jobs, and a $17 billion impact is forecast over an unspecified period.

A cargo airport near Hazleton would bring in 1.4 million tons of freight in 2012, and gross revenue from fuel and rental fees would exceed $38 million a year, according to a 2004 study by the LPA Group of Columbia, S.C. That study was funded with a $300,000 federal grant and $30,000 match from Luzerne County.

Gladstone Partners funded another study conducted by Leigh Fisher Associates and released in August. According to that study, the project is feasible because many airports in the northeastern United States “are severely congested and increasingly expensive for the air cargo industry.”

A cargo airport near Hazleton would provide an alternative to congested airports in New York, Newark and Philadelphia and easy access to freight rail lines and interstate highways — Interstate 80, Interstate 81 and the Northeast Extension of the Pennsylvania Turnpike. It would also provide more efficient operations, increased security potential and expansion capacity, according to the 2006 study.

Cargo airlines have increased orders for wide-body aircraft that could easily land at the proposed airport, Eachus said.

“Hazleton is one stop to virtually anywhere in the world with these jets,” Eachus said in a news release. “When we are offering a quality, cost-effective alternative to fueling and servicing of these aircraft, we’ll also become home to distribution centers, repair facilities for electronics and even manufacturing plants for new goods that companies can then ship affordably from Hazleton.”

Eachus said the airport could be as successful as cargo airports in Memphis, Tenn., and Anchorage, Alaska.

“With this team we’ve assembled and our already proven role as a transportation hub, I think Hazleton can be the ‘New Memphis’ and take the strain off already overtaxed commercial airports like Newark and New York’s JFK to become an air cargo leader,” Eachus said.

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$17 billion, over what period of time (took me two years don't ya know).

I'm going to mention this to my Mother. She may want to move back to Blakely (actually Peckville), for her sunset years to see the area reborn. I bet I could get a heck of a deal on hundreds of houses in NE PA, but not for long.

It could be a whole new ball game up there in about 3 years, wow.
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