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Originally Posted by WarrenC12
Yes, the DTES is still a mess. However I'm not claiming that it's changing or going to change any time soon.
Surrey Central is also a mess, and I think much like the DTES, it's not going to change either. It certainly hasn't so far, despite all of the "progress".
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If you think Surrey Central is a mess like the DTES you really need to give your head a shake. It has definite areas that need to be fixed still and open lots that need to be filled, but a mess like the DTES? I just don't see it and I don't think you've really spent any time in the DTES to know what a truely sad an horrible area it is.
My suspicion is if you've spent any time at SFU Surrey, you've realized it isn't as bad as people make out, but to uphold your hard-line Vancouver > all forum persona, you're just saying it because you're programmed to.
That said, it definitely has a lot of room for improvement I don't disagree, but the original poster is talking 20+ years. Just look how much has changed in 10 years around here. Heck look at Brentwood 10 years ago. It had like 3 highrises and didn't even have any sidewalks down many of the main streets off of Lougheed...
A lot can and will change I'm sure of it.
Still don't think any town center will supplant downtown Vancouver though. It just has too far a head start, and while stats clearly show living next to the ocean isn't the end-all-be-all, I won't argue with the fact downtown Vancouver is probably the most picturesque of areas in the entire region. Heck when I have friends visiting me from over seas, we spend a large chunk of the time visiting areas and sites in Vancouver specifically.
It is still the region's center and will be for probably my lifetime.
We should all make sure not to disparage what has been built in Vancouver. It is a truly great city in my opinion, DTES and all.