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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 1:51 PM
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Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic and Finland:

GDP 2015

UNITED STATES ---------------- 17,830,307
CHINA --------------------------- 11,063,050
GERMANY -------------------------- 3,377,310
FRANCE --------------------------- 2,434,787
ITALY ------------------------------ 1,825,820
BRAZIL --------------------------- 1,800,537
SPAIN ------------------------------ 1,193,556
MEXICO --------------------------- 1,152,266
AUSTRIA ---------------------------- 377,157
HONG KONG ------------------------- 309,406
SINGAPORE ------------------------- 296,835
FINLAND ----------------------------- 232,556
GREECE ------------------------------ 194,958
CZECH REPUBLIC ------------------- 186,830
HUNGARY --------------------------- 121,660


Code:
NEW YORK ----------------- 1,828,524
LOS ANGELES -------------- 1,119,674
SAN FRANCISCO -------------- 758,501
PARIS ---------------------- 733,107
WASHINGTON-BALTIMORE ------- 698,378
CHICAGO -------------------- 648,435
RHEIN-RUHR ----------------- 639,003
BOSTON --------------------- 550,840
HOUSTON -------------------- 503,311
DALLAS --------------------- 489,633
PHILADELPHIA --------------- 459,496
SHANGHAI ------------------- 400,825
MILANO --------------------- 396,889
SÃO PAULO ------------------ 379,975
BEIJING -------------------- 368,772
ATLANTA -------------------- 355,914
SEATTLE -------------------- 340,064
MIAMI ---------------------- 335,305
MEXICO CITY ---------------- 310,386
HONG KONG ------------------ 309,406
SINGAPORE ------------------ 296,835
DETROIT -------------------- 285,308
MÜNCHEN -------------------- 269,340
TIANJIN -------------------- 265,529
MINNEAPOLIS ---------------- 258,178
DENVER --------------------- 227,058
MADRID --------------------- 225,517
SAN DIEGO ------------------ 220,573
PHOENIX -------------------- 219,968
STUTTGART ------------------ 217,104
FRANKFURT ------------------ 211,309
BERLIN --------------------- 210,987
ROMA ----------------------- 202,936
PORTLAND ------------------- 184,627
CLEVELAND ------------------ 180,287
WIEN ----------------------- 155,494
ST. LOUIS ------------------ 155,077
CHARLOTTE ------------------ 152,447
RIO DE JANEIRO ------------- 148,651
INDIANAPOLIS --------------- 143,886
PITTSBURGH ----------------- 142,832
ORLANDO -------------------- 138,766
KANSAS CITY ---------------- 135,401
TAMPA ---------------------- 133,838
CINCINNATI ----------------- 127,057
SALT LAKE CITY ------------- 124,675
SACRAMENTO ----------------- 124,587
COLUMBUS ------------------- 124,381
RALEIGH -------------------- 120,215
AUSTIN --------------------- 119,949
NASHVILLE ------------------ 113,680
NAPOLI --------------------- 111,716
MILWAUKEE ------------------ 110,029
SAN ANTONIO ---------------- 108,879
LAS VEGAS ------------------ 107,189
ATHÍNA ---------------------- 93,742
HELSINKI -------------------- 89,953
MONTERREY ------------------- 87,326
CAMPINAS -------------------- 73,133
BRASÍLIA -------------------- 69,832
PRAHA ----------------------- 66,821
BELO HORIZONTE--------------- 62,076
BUDAPEST -------------------- 57,062
GENOA ----------------------- 52,959
PORTO ALEGRE ---------------- 51,785
DRESDEN --------------------- 49,599
CURITIBA -------------------- 47,441
RECIFE ---------------------- 34,306
SALVADOR -------------------- 32,647
FORTALEZA ------------------- 25,998
GOIÂNIA --------------------- 25,149
VITÓRIA --------------------- 21,774
MANAUS ---------------------- 21,056
BELÉM ----------------------- 14,571
--- Frankfurt and Berlin changed places.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 9:17 PM
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Great Britain, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden and Denmark:

GDP 2015

UNITED STATES ---------------- 17,830,307
CHINA --------------------------- 11,063,050
GERMANY -------------------------- 3,377,310
BRITAIN --------------------------- 2,863,304
FRANCE --------------------------- 2,434,787
ITALY ------------------------------ 1,825,820
BRAZIL --------------------------- 1,800,537
SPAIN ------------------------------ 1,193,556
MEXICO --------------------------- 1,152,266
NETHERLANDS ---------------------- 758,381
SWEDEN ----------------------------- 495,694
BELGIUM ---------------------------- 455,219
AUSTRIA ---------------------------- 377,157
HONG KONG ------------------------- 309,406
DENMARK --------------------------- 301,308
SINGAPORE ------------------------- 296,835
FINLAND ----------------------------- 232,556
GREECE ------------------------------ 194,958
CZECH REPUBLIC ------------------- 186,830
HUNGARY --------------------------- 121,660


Code:
NEW YORK ----------------- 1,828,524
LONDON ------------------- 1,140,864
LOS ANGELES -------------- 1,119,674
SAN FRANCISCO -------------- 758,501
PARIS ---------------------- 733,107
WASHINGTON-BALTIMORE ------- 698,378
CHICAGO -------------------- 648,435
RHEIN-RUHR ----------------- 639,003
BOSTON --------------------- 550,840
HOUSTON -------------------- 503,311
DALLAS --------------------- 489,633
PHILADELPHIA --------------- 459,496
SHANGHAI ------------------- 400,825
AMSTERDAM-ROTTERDAM -------- 397,547
MILANO --------------------- 396,889
SÃO PAULO ------------------ 379,975
BEIJING -------------------- 368,772
ATLANTA -------------------- 355,914
SEATTLE -------------------- 340,064
MIAMI ---------------------- 335,305
MEXICO CITY ---------------- 310,386
HONG KONG ------------------ 309,406
SINGAPORE ------------------ 296,835
BRUXELLES-ANTWERPEN -------- 292,066
DETROIT -------------------- 285,308
MÜNCHEN -------------------- 269,340
TIANJIN -------------------- 265,529
MINNEAPOLIS ---------------- 258,178
MANCHESTER-LIVERPOOL ------- 250,531
DENVER --------------------- 227,058
MADRID --------------------- 225,517
SAN DIEGO ------------------ 220,573
PHOENIX -------------------- 219,968
STUTTGART ------------------ 217,104
FRANKFURT ------------------ 211,309
BERLIN --------------------- 210,987
BIRMINGHAM ----------------- 205,983
ROMA ----------------------- 202,936
PORTLAND ------------------- 184,627
CLEVELAND ------------------ 180,287
STOCKHOLM ------------------ 158,143
WIEN ----------------------- 155,494
ST. LOUIS ------------------ 155,077
CHARLOTTE ------------------ 152,447
KØBENHAVN ------------------ 151,878
RIO DE JANEIRO ------------- 148,651
INDIANAPOLIS --------------- 143,886
PITTSBURGH ----------------- 142,832
ORLANDO -------------------- 138,766
KANSAS CITY ---------------- 135,401
TAMPA ---------------------- 133,838
CINCINNATI ----------------- 127,057
LEEDS-SHEFFIELD ------------ 126,018
SALT LAKE CITY ------------- 124,675
SACRAMENTO ----------------- 124,587
COLUMBUS ------------------- 124,381
RALEIGH -------------------- 120,215
AUSTIN --------------------- 119,949
NASHVILLE ------------------ 113,680
NAPOLI --------------------- 111,716
MILWAUKEE ------------------ 110,029
SAN ANTONIO ---------------- 108,879
LAS VEGAS ------------------ 107,189
ATHÍNA ---------------------- 93,742
HELSINKI -------------------- 89,953
GLASGOW --------------------- 87,788
MONTERREY ------------------- 87,326
CAMPINAS -------------------- 73,133
BRASÍLIA -------------------- 69,832
PRAHA ----------------------- 66,821
BELO HORIZONTE--------------- 62,076
BUDAPEST -------------------- 57,062
GENOA ----------------------- 52,959
PORTO ALEGRE ---------------- 51,785
DRESDEN --------------------- 49,599
CURITIBA -------------------- 47,441
RECIFE ---------------------- 34,306
SALVADOR -------------------- 32,647
FORTALEZA ------------------- 25,998
GOIÂNIA --------------------- 25,149
VITÓRIA --------------------- 21,774
MANAUS ---------------------- 21,056
BELÉM ----------------------- 14,571
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Yuri,

Do you have data for Japan and Japanese Cities (GDP of metros)?

I'm curious where it ranks and the difference in % relative to the following:

Code:
NEW YORK ----------------- 1,828,524
LONDON ------------------- 1,140,864
LOS ANGELES -------------- 1,119,674
For Tokyo/Yokohama in this case.
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Tokyo-Yokohama is 1st or 2nd. Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto is in the top 10 somewhere.
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Yuri,

Do you have data for Japan and Japanese Cities (GDP of metros)?

I'm curious where it ranks and the difference in % relative to the following:

Code:
NEW YORK ----------------- 1,828,524
LONDON ------------------- 1,140,864
LOS ANGELES -------------- 1,119,674
For Tokyo/Yokohama in this case.
Chris, I didn't manage to find it. On Wikipedia, there are old figures from 2011. In the first page of the thread, I posted numbers for Japanese metro areas.
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Thanks to the mods for reminding me that there is already an active thread regarding this topic.

This data was released this morning, September 18, 2018.

I tabulated CSA data by adding up their component GDPs.

2017 Combined Statistical Area & Metro Area Gross Product
Population 3 Million+

New York-Newark CSA: $1.903 Trillion
New York MSA $1.717 Trillion
Bridgeport MSA $98.256 Billion
New Haven MSA $45.212 Billion
Trenton MSA $29.987 Billion
East Stroudsburg MSA $6.340 Billion
Kingston MSA $6.255 Billion

Los Angeles-Long Beach CSA:$1.251 Trillion
Los Angeles MSA $1.043 Trillion
Riverside MSA $157.931 Billion
Oxnard MSA $50.848 Billion

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA: $907.923 Billion
San Francisco MSA $500.710 Billion
San Jose MSA $275.923 Billion
Santa Rosa MSA $28.673 Billion
Stockton MSA $27.089 Billion
Vallejo MSA $21.422 Billion
Modesto MSA $20.659 Billion
Santa Cruz MSA $13.373 Billion
Napa MSA $11.446 Billion
Merced MSA $8.625 Billion

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington CSA: $751.186 Billion
Washington MSA $529.990 Billion
Baltimore MSA $192.178 Billion
Hagerstown MSA $10.232 Billion
Chambersburg MSA $5.545 Billion
Winchester MSA $6.785 Billion
California-Lexington Park MSA Billion $6.456 Billion

Chicago-Naperville CSA: $688.194 Billion
Chicago MSA $679.669 Billion
Kankakee MSA $4.510 Billion
Michigan City MSA $4.015 Billion

Boston-Worcester-Providence CSA: $605.307 Billion
Boston MSA $438.684 Billion
Providence MSA$82.929 Billion
Worcester MSA $43.750 Billion
Manchester MSA $28.443 Billion
Barnstable Town MSA $11.501 Billion

Dallas-Ft Worth CSA: $539.906 Billion
Dallas MSA $535.499 Billion
Sherman MSA $4.407 Billion

Philadelphia-Reading-Camden CSA: $495.188 Billion
Philadelphia MSA: $444.975 Billion
Reading MSA $18.679 Billion
Atlantic City MSA $13.122 Billion
Dover MSA $7.337 Billion
Vineland MSA $5.828 Billion
Ocean City MSA $5.247 Billion

Houston-The Woodlands CSA: $490.074 Billion
Houston MSA $490.074 Billion

Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs CSA: $409.054 Billion
Atlanta MSA $385.542 Billion
Athens-Clarke County MSA $9.947 Billion
Gainesville MSA $9.616 Billion
Rome MSA $3.949 Billion

Seattle-Tacoma CSA: $395.915 Billion
Seattle MSA $365.572 Billion
Olympia MSA $12.426 Billion
Bremerton MSA $11.474 Billion
Mount Vernon MSA $6.643 Billion

Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale CSA: $364.287 Billion
Miami MSA $344.882 Billion
Port St Lucie MSA $13.933 Billion
Sebastian MSA $5.472 Billion

Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor CSA: $302.784 Billion
Detroit MSA $260.612 Billion
Ann Arbor MSA $23.500 Billion
Flint MSA $13.623 Billion
Monroe MSA $5.049 Billion

Minneapolis-St Paul CSA: $270.332 Billion
Minneapolis MSA $260.106 Billion
St Cloud MSA $10.226 Billion

Denver-Aurora CSA: $246.728 Billion
Denver MSA $208.868 Billion
Boulder MSA $25.274 Billion
Greeley MSA $12.586 Billion

Phoenix-Mesa CSA: $242.951 Billion
Phoenix MSA $242.951 Billion

San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad MSA: $231.825 Billion

Portland-Vancouver-Salem CSA: $202 430 Billion
Portland MSA $171.772 Billion
Salem MSA $17.333 Billion
Longview MSA $4.477 Billion
Corvallis MSA $4.668 Billion
Albany MSA $4.180 Billion

Cleveland-Akron-Canton CSA: $192.269 Billion
Cleveland MSA $138.980 Billion
Akron MSA $36.518 Billion
Canton MSA $16.771Billion

Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona CSA: $177.482 Billion
Orlando MSA $132.448 Billion
Deltona-Daytona MSA $21 155 Billion
The Villages MSA $2.804 Billion
Lakeland MSA $21.115 Billion

Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater MSA: $146.349 Billion


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Dallas-Ft Worth CSA: $535.906 Billion
Dallas MSA $535.499 Billion
Sherman MSA $4.407 Billion

Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale CSA: $354.287 Billion
Miami MSA $344.882 Billion
Port St Lucie MSA $13.933 Billion
Sebastian MSA $5.472 Billion
The math here is wrong
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The math here is wrong
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Phoenix-Mesa improved 2 rankigs in 2 years.

Pretty good
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Good to see growth in almost every metro area with a GDP over 50 billion dollars. Looks like the oil price induced recession that hit back around 2014 in some of the oil patch metros has finally ended.
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Combined Statistical Area GDP will be included in next year's data from BEA.gov
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A bit late, but opening the 2016 series:

GDP 2016 and 2010

-------------------------------------- 2016 -------- 2010

UNITED STATES ---------------- 18,511,499 -- 14,859,772 -- 24.6%

Code:
NEW YORK ----------------- 1,889,964 --- 1,532,136 -- 23.4%
--- New York ------------- 1,657,457 --- 1,338,451 -- 23.8%
--- Bridgeport ------------- 102,401 ------ 85,354 -- 20.0%
--- New Haven --------------- 44,120 ------ 39,531 -- 11.6%
--- Allentown --------------- 42,700 ------ 32,707 -- 30.5%
--- Trenton ----------------- 31,203 ------ 25,126 -- 24.2%
--- Kingston ----------------- 6,088 ------- 5,329 -- 14.2%
--- East Stroudsburg --------- 5,995 ------- 5,638 --- 6.3%

LOS ANGELES -------------- 1,199,253 ----- 919,707 -- 30.4%
--- Los Angeles ---------- 1,001,677 ----- 763,976 -- 31.1%
--- San Bernardino --------- 149,059 ----- 114,209 -- 30.5%
--- Oxnard ------------------ 48,517 ------ 41,522 -- 16.8%

SAN FRANCISCO -------------- 820,933 ----- 567,015 -- 44.8%
--- San Francisco ---------- 470,529 ----- 330,154 -- 42.5%
--- San Jose --------------- 252,487 ----- 161,334 -- 56.5%
--- Santa Rosa -------------- 27,311 ------ 20,456 -- 33.5%
--- Stockton ---------------- 26,190 ------ 21,216 -- 23.4%
--- Vallejo ----------------- 20,295 ------ 15,498 -- 31.0%
--- Santa Cruz -------------- 13,581 ------ 10,925 -- 24.3%
--- Napa -------------------- 10,540 ------- 7,432 -- 41.8%

WASHINGTON-BALTIMORE ------- 724,304 ----- 606,593 -- 19.4%
--- Washington ------------- 509,224 ----- 431,293 -- 18.1%
--- Baltimore -------------- 187,395 ----- 152,626 -- 22.8%
--- Hagerstown --------------- 9,723 ------- 7,791 -- 24.8%
--- Lexington Park ----------- 6,356 ------- 5,381 -- 18.1%
--- Winchester --------------- 6,296 ------- 5,114 -- 23.1%
--- Chambersburg ------------- 5,310 ------- 4,388 -- 21.0%

CHICAGO -------------------- 659,159 ----- 535,992 -- 23.0%
--- Chicago ---------------- 651,222 ----- 529,004 -- 23.1%
--- Kankakee ----------------- 4,103 ------- 3,372 -- 21.7%
--- Michigan City ------------ 3,834 ------- 3,616 --- 6.0%

BOSTON --------------------- 583,212 ----- 460,730 -- 26.6%
--- Boston ----------------- 422,660 ----- 328,480 -- 28.7%
--- Providence -------------- 80,164 ------ 67,707 -- 18.4%
--- Worcester --------------- 42,286 ------ 34,155 -- 23.8%
--- Manchester -------------- 26,826 ------ 21,133 -- 26.9%
--- Barnstable Town --------- 11,276 ------- 9,255 -- 21.8%

DALLAS --------------------- 515,898 ----- 371,993 -- 38.7%
--- Dallas ----------------- 511,606 ----- 368,481 -- 38.8%
--- Sherman ------------------ 4,292 ------- 3,512 -- 22.2%

PHILADELPHIA --------------- 481,885 ----- 391,852 -- 23.0%
--- Philadelphia ----------- 431,038 ----- 348,583 -- 23.7%
--- Reading ----------------- 19,924 ------ 15,199 -- 31.1%
--- Atlantic City ----------- 12,751 ------ 12,607 --- 1.1%
--- Dover -------------------- 7,216 ------- 5,932 -- 21.6%
--- Vineland ----------------- 5,751 ------- 5,281 --- 8.9%
--- Ocean City --------------- 5,205 ------- 4,250 -- 22.5%

HOUSTON -------------------- 478,618 ----- 392,520 -- 21.9%

ATLANTA -------------------- 381,393 ----- 285,611 -- 33.5%
--- Atlanta ---------------- 363,768 ----- 272,318 -- 33.6%
--- Gainesville -------------- 8,923 ------- 6,427 -- 38.8%
--- Athens ------------------- 8,702 ------- 6,866 -- 26.7%

SEATTLE -------------------- 358,447 ----- 267,174 -- 34.2%
--- Seattle ---------------- 330,409 ----- 242,488 -- 36.3%
--- Olympia ----------------- 11,486 ------- 9,575 -- 20.0%
--- Bremerton --------------- 10,663 ------- 9,533 -- 12.0%
--- Mount Vernon ------------- 5,889 ------- 5,578 --- 5.6%

MIAMI ---------------------- 347,435 ----- 265,771 -- 30.7%
--- Miami ------------------ 328,482 ----- 250,429 -- 31.2%
--- Port St. Lucie ---------- 13,383 ------ 11,234 -- 19.1%
--- Sebastian ---------------- 5,570 ------- 4,108 -- 35.6%

DETROIT -------------------- 293,211 ----- 231,884 -- 26.4%
--- Detroit ---------------- 252,691 ----- 196,967 -- 28.3%
--- Ann Arbor --------------- 22,010 ------ 19,398 -- 13.5%
--- Flint ------------------- 13,838 ------ 11,568 -- 19.6%
--- Monroe ------------------- 4,672 ------- 3,951 -- 18.2%

MINNEAPOLIS ---------------- 256,638 ----- 205,595 -- 24.8%
--- Minneapolis ------------ 246,689 ----- 197,981 -- 24.6%
--- St. Cloud ---------------- 9,949 ------- 7,614 -- 30.7%

DENVER --------------------- 233,146 ----- 181,371 -- 28.5%
--- Denver ----------------- 197,969 ----- 154,621 -- 28.0%
--- Boulder ----------------- 23,946 ------ 19,064 -- 25.6%
--- Greeley ----------------- 11,231 ------- 7,686 -- 46.1%

PHOENIX -------------------- 230,070 ----- 180,086 -- 27.8%

SAN DIEGO ------------------ 215,343 ----- 175,026 -- 23.0%

PORTLAND ------------------- 193,224 ----- 166,225 -- 16.2%
--- Portland --------------- 164,466 ----- 141,493 -- 16.2%
--- Salem ------------------- 16,076 ------ 12,442 -- 29.2%
--- Corvallis ---------------- 4,559 ------- 5,509 - -17.2%
--- Longview ----------------- 4,096 ------- 3,541 -- 15.7%
--- Albany ------------------- 4,027 ------- 3,240 -- 24.3%

CLEVELAND ------------------ 183,083 ----- 147,758 -- 23.9%
--- Cleveland -------------- 129,440 ----- 105,545 -- 22.6%
--- Akron ------------------- 37,300 ------ 29,218 -- 27.7%
--- Canton ------------------ 16,343 ------ 12,995 -- 25.8%

CHARLOTTE ------------------ 163,637 ----- 117,071 -- 39.8%

ST. LOUIS ------------------ 159,888 ----- 135,770 -- 17.8%

ORLANDO -------------------- 146,498 ----- 114,958 -- 27.4%
--- Orlando ---------------- 126,797 ------ 99,474 -- 27.5%
--- Deltona ----------------- 17,111 ------ 13,616 -- 25.7%
--- The Villages ------------- 2,590 ------- 1,868 -- 38.7%

INDIANAPOLIS --------------- 144,889 ----- 118,178 -- 22.6%
--- Indianapolis ----------- 135,444 ----- 110,580 -- 22.5%
--- Columbus ----------------- 5,680 ------- 4,295 -- 32.2%
--- Muncie ------------------- 3,765 ------- 3,303 -- 14.0%

TAMPA ---------------------- 142,633 ----- 111,134 -- 28.3%

PITTSBURGH ----------------- 142,210 ----- 118,609 -- 19.9%
--- Pittsburgh ------------- 138,187 ----- 113,940 -- 21.3%
--- Weirton ------------------ 4,023 ------- 3,669 --- 9.6%

KANSAS CITY ---------------- 139,009 ----- 111,959 -- 24.2%
--- Kansas City ------------ 129,163 ----- 103,464 -- 24.8%
--- St. Joseph --------------- 5,433 ------- 4,764 -- 14.0%
--- Lawrence ----------------- 4,413 ------- 3,731 -- 18.3%

AUSTIN --------------------- 135,010 ------ 88,718 -- 52.2%

SALT LAKE CITY ------------- 133,050 ------ 98,714 -- 34.8%
--- Salt Lake City ---------- 84,826 ------ 63,173 -- 34.3%
--- Ogden ------------------- 24,973 ------ 20,407 -- 22.4%
--- Provo ------------------- 23,251 ------ 15,134 -- 53.6%

CINCINNATI ----------------- 132,010 ----- 107,067 -- 23.3%

COLUMBUS ------------------- 130,758 ------ 95,188 -- 37.4%

SACRAMENTO ----------------- 127,956 ------ 99,117 -- 29.1%
--- Sacramento ------------- 122,218 ------ 94,312 -- 29.6%
--- Yuba City ---------------- 5,738 ------- 4,805 -- 19.4%

NASHVILLE ------------------ 124,243 ------ 82,636 -- 50.3%

RALEIGH -------------------- 123,751 ------ 97,733 -- 26.6%
--- Raleigh ----------------- 79,843 ------ 57,540 -- 38.8%
--- Durham------------------- 43,908 ------ 40,193 --- 9.2%

SAN ANTONIO ---------------- 116,538 ------ 82,757 -- 40.8%

LAS VEGAS ------------------ 115,329 ------ 87,154 -- 32.3%
--- Las Vegas -------------- 111,091 ------ 83,410 -- 33.2%
--- Lake Havasu City---------- 4,238 ------- 3,744 -- 13.2%

MILWAUKEE ------------------ 108,818 ------ 94,834 -- 14.7%
--- Milwaukee -------------- 100,869 ------ 87,454 -- 15.3%
--- Racine-------------------- 7,949 ------- 7,380 --- 7.7%

HARTFORD ------------------- 105,858 ------ 96,132 -- 10.1%
--- Hartford ---------------- 90,004 ------ 81,506 -- 10.4%
--- New London -------------- 15,854 ------ 14,626 --- 8.4%

NORFOLK --------------------- 92,827 ------ 82,107 -- 13.1%

LOUISVILLE ------------------ 81,179 ------ 61,469 -- 32.1%
--- Louisville -------------- 74,968 ------ 55,849 -- 34.2%
--- Elizabeth Town ----------- 6,211 ------- 5,620 -- 10.5%

NEW ORLEANS ----------------- 80,915 ------ 79,619 --- 1.6%
--- New Orleans ------------- 77,163 ------ 75,811 --- 1.8%
--- Hammond ------------------ 3,752 ------- 3,808 -- -1.5%

RICHMOND -------------------- 80,702 ------ 62,643 -- 28.8%

GREENSBORO ------------------ 74,021 ------ 63,441 -- 16.7%
--- Greensboro -------------- 39,944 ------ 34,113 -- 17.1%
--- Winston-Salem ----------- 28,747 ------ 24,937 -- 15.3%
--- Burlington --------------- 5,330 ------- 4,391 -- 21.4%

JACKSONVILLE ---------------- 71,471 ------ 56,380 -- 26.8%

MEMPHIS --------------------- 71,450 ------ 62,897 -- 13.6%

OKLAHOMA CITY --------------- 70,235 ------ 57,724 -- 21.7%

GRAND RAPIDS ---------------- 64,152 ------ 46,069 -- 39.3%
--- Grand Rapids ------------ 58,465 ------ 41,318 -- 41.5%
--- Muskegon ----------------- 5,687 ------- 4,751 -- 19.7%

BIRMINGHAM ------------------ 62,758 ------ 52,304 -- 20.0%

HARRISBURG ------------------ 62,316 ------ 53,045 -- 17.5%
--- Harrisburg -------------- 35,465 ------ 29,357 -- 20.8%
--- York -------------------- 18,631 ------ 16,818 -- 10.8%
--- Lebanon ------------------ 4,961 ------- 4,155 -- 19.4%
--- Gettysburg --------------- 3,259 ------- 2,715 -- 20.0%

BUFFALO --------------------- 58,062 ------ 49,108 -- 18.2%

ALBANY ---------------------- 57,262 ------ 48,306 -- 18.5%
--- Albany ------------------ 52,339 ------ 43,862 -- 19.3%
--- Glens Falls -------------- 4,923 ------- 4,444 -- 10.8%

TULSA ----------------------- 56,077 ------ 45,244 -- 23.9%

GREENVILLE ------------------ 55,791 ------ 42,566 -- 31.1%
--- Greenville -------------- 40,513 ------ 30,973 -- 30.8%
--- Spartanburg ------------- 15,278 ------ 11,593 -- 31.8%

ROCHESTER ------------------- 55,426 ------ 50,236 -- 10.3%

ALBUQUERQUE ----------------- 50,462 ------ 44,849 -- 12.5%
--- Albuquerque ------------- 43,480 ------ 38,114 -- 14.1%
--- Santa Fe ----------------- 6,982 ------- 6,735 --- 3.7%

FRESNO ---------------------- 46,501 ------ 35,950 -- 29.3%
--- Fresno ------------------ 40,887 ------ 31,952 -- 28.0%
--- Madera ------------------- 5,614 ------- 3,998 -- 40.4%

CAPE CORAL ------------------ 44,709 ------ 34,481 -- 29.7%
--- Cape Coral -------------- 27,055 ------ 21,596 -- 25.3%
--- Naples ------------------ 17,654 ------ 12,885 -- 37.0%

DAYTON ---------------------- 44,566 ------ 37,019 -- 20.4%
--- Dayton ------------------ 40,236 ------ 33,388 -- 20.5%
--- Springfield -------------- 4,330 ------- 3,631 -- 19.3%

KNOXVILLE ------------------- 44,468 ------ 35,611 -- 24.9%
--- Knoxville --------------- 40,207 ------ 32,296 -- 24.5%
--- Morristown --------------- 4,261 ------- 3,315 -- 28.5%

TUCSON ---------------------- 37,260 ------ 34,660 --- 7.5%

EL PASO --------------------- 35,397 ------ 30,445 -- 16.3%
--- El Paso ----------------- 28,359 ------ 23,944 -- 18.4%
--- Las Cruces --------------- 7,038 ------- 6,501 --- 8.3%
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Bringing Europe now. Note its NUTS-2 based, which means wider metro areas definition:

GDP 2016

----------------------------------- GDP 2016 (USD million) --- Pop. 2016
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LONDON ------------------- 1,026,277 -- 19,419,084

PARIS ---------------------- 724,167 -- 12,138,930

RHEIN-RUHR ----------------- 635,376 -- 15,807,520

AMSTERDAM-ROTTERDAM -------- 397,159 --- 8,084,838

MILANO --------------------- 389,937 -- 10,008,349

BRUXELLES-ANTWERPEN -------- 288,527 --- 6,039,641

MÜNCHEN -------------------- 267,571 --- 4,588,944

MANCHESTER-LIVERPOOL ------- 225,597 --- 6,689,554

MADRID --------------------- 225,030 --- 6,424,275

STUTTGART ------------------ 217,576 --- 4,069,533

BERLIN --------------------- 211,363 --- 6,004,857

FRANKFURT ------------------ 206,728 --- 3,922,369

ROMA ----------------------- 197,803 --- 5,888,472

BIRMINGHAM ----------------- 184,615 --- 5,772,082

STOCKHOLM ------------------ 157,257 --- 2,231,439

WIEN ----------------------- 154,332 --- 3,493,917

KØBENHAVN ------------------ 148,919 --- 2,616,673

NAPOLI --------------------- 113,567 --- 5,850,850

LEEDS-SHEFFIELD ------------ 110,167 --- 3,668,052

HELSINKI -------------------- 89,367 --- 1,620,261

ATHÍNA ---------------------- 88,797 --- 3,781,274

GLASGOW --------------------- 77,398 --- 2,341,746

PRAHA ----------------------- 68,696 --- 2,594,325

BUDAPEST -------------------- 56,048 --- 2,993,948

GENOA ----------------------- 51,369 --- 1,571,053

DRESDEN --------------------- 50,588 --- 1,602,754
Compared to the US, European areas fell a bit as the Euro had a slight fall against the Dollar. On the British areas, the decrease were more pronounced as the Pound was hit the hardest.
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London with 20 million is absurd, esp. when same metric has Paris at 12 million.

But Milan at 10 million is the craziest.
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London with 20 million is absurd, esp. when same metric has Paris at 12 million.

But Milan at 10 million is the craziest.
It looks like the population of all of Lombardy, with an area of 24,000 km^2....

For comparison, this comes out to 23,000 km^2

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It's not that. It's London plus the five bordering NUTS-2. The whole Southampton area is out as it has its own NUTS-2 region.


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London with 20 million is absurd, esp. when same metric has Paris at 12 million.

But Milan at 10 million is the craziest.
It's NUTS-2 based. Milan metro area is pretty much 80% of Lombardia province. Ditto for London. There's nothing too shocking about the two. In fact, it might be more strict than US CSAs.
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It's not that. It's London plus the five bordering NUTS-2.
London and Paris are the same size, so if you're using a metric showing one with twice the population of the other, your metric is flawed.

And if Milan is bigger than Chicago or Hong Kong and almost as big as Paris or Buenos Aires, then, again, your metric is flawed. Milan is hardly a megacity; it would be comparable to Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Hamburg, Rome, Vienna and the like.

It also means your Milan metro has a bigger geography than the LA metro, which is absurd. Obviously American metros are the sprawliest on earth, and Italian metros are quite compact.
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London and Paris are the same size, so if you're using a metric showing one with twice the population of the other, your metric is flawed.

And if Milan is bigger than Chicago or Hong Kong and almost as big as Paris or Buenos Aires, then, again, your metric is flawed. Milan is hardly a megacity; it would be comparable to Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Hamburg, Rome, Vienna and the like.

It also means your Milan metro has a bigger geography than the LA metro, which is absurd. Obviously American metros are the sprawliest on earth, and Italian metros are quite compact.
If I added Oise to Paris, I would make it 3x larger to add 1 million people only. I preferred to work with broader definitions to make it more comparable with US CSAs, aside it makes more sense as GDP has many distortions when counting the entire region.

Milan metro area ranges from 7 million to 8 million, which is pretty much the entire Lombardia. Just look at the map: its sprawl takes over the entire province. You have Milan city proper in mind, that's why you struggle to those numbers.

And I didn't understand your comparison with Los Angeles. Milan/Lombardia has 23,000 km²; Los Angeles CSA: 87,000 km².

In any case, that's just a reference. For the US, I have CSAs available (in fact, MSAs only and I add them up to make CSAs); for Brazil I also use a broader definition based on microrregions instead of municipalities, to make the list clean and more comparable with US. For México, I use DF+Mexico+Morelos for Mexico metro area and Nuevo Leon for Monterrey and so on. Everywhere I chose broader definitions.
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And I didn't understand your comparison with Los Angeles. Milan/Lombardia has 23,000 km²; Los Angeles CSA: 87,000 km².
LA metro is only 12,562km². The CSA land area number for LA includes up to ~60,000km² of uninhabited Sonoran Desert and mountains. It just so happens that Riverside and San Bernardino counties that are included in the CSA extend all the way to the Nevada/Arizona border since the land in-between is uninhabited. Sonoran Desert is larger than Great Britain in land area.

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