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Old Posted Nov 17, 2014, 6:03 AM
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I understand the desire not to duplicate M-1 service, but one-way couplets suck, and this one is just absurd - Cass and John R Street are almost 1/3 mile apart.
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2014, 7:18 AM
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I understand the desire not to duplicate M-1 service, but one-way couplets suck, and this one is just absurd - Cass and John R Street are almost 1/3 mile apart.
What's more as mentioned in the article, both are narrower streets with higher pedestrian traffic (and lower speed limits than on Woodward). Buses would be significantly slowed thus defeating the purpose of having BRT on those routes.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 4:35 AM
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2015, 9:06 PM
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It's not bad, but not interesting either.

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M-1 Rail Penske Tech Center design reflects community input
By Natalie Broda. February 15, 2015.



Red brick exterior, decorative fences and landscaping to match the feel of the surrounding neighborhood are part of the design of the new M-1 Rail Penske Tech Center, according to conceptual renderings released today.

The 19,000-square-foot facility, which will be located east of Woodward Avenue between Bethune Avenue and Custer Street, is already under construction. It will store the vehicles and streetcar technology systems, as well as house the operations team for the rail. The project is expected to cost $6.9 million.

The M-1 Rail streetcar project, which began construction in July, is 3.3 miles along Woodward Avenue between Grand Boulevard and Congress Street. It will have 20 stations at 12 stops in that stretch. Organizers predict 5,000 to 8,000 riders a day, with a basic one-way fare of $1.50.

Decorative metal fencing will surround the facility, which is to be made of red brick to better blend with the historical look of the neighborhood. The cars will be stored in a lot behind the building. Decorative lighting will also be utilized on the exterior; the lights will not disturb surrounding properties, according to a news release.

The building and design team are aiming for 51 percent of construction workers on the project to be Detroit residents. The team includes Detroit-based ABE Associates Inc., 3.L.K. Construction LLC and Turner Construction Co., as well as Denver-based RNL Design Inc., a national designer of light rail and mass transit maintenance facilities.

The facility is scheduled to be completed at the end of this year.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2015, 11:35 PM
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Canada to pay for bridge customs plaza, U.S. to operate

So pretty much, Canada is paying for the whole bridge. How bad does a government have to be at governing things to not pay for their own custom's plaza?

On the bright side, there's no more red tape to hold the project back and the bridge should get started by the time Essex Parkway is finished which ought by the spring or summer of this year it looks like.


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Old Posted Apr 17, 2015, 11:48 PM
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M-1 Rail construction begins at Campus Martius on Monday
2015 expected to be busiest year of construction for Detroit light rail project
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Starting Monday, crews will begin installing a curved track around Campus Martius in downtown Detroit as part of the $140 million M-1 Rail project.

The 2015 construction schedule, expected to be the busiest so far, will also include rebuilding parts of Woodward Avenue and freeway overpasses around downtown, M-1 Rail Chief Operating Officer Paul Childs said Thursday. The rail line, which will extend 3.3 miles from Detroit's riverfront to the New Center area, is scheduled to begin running next year.

In a media briefing Thursday, M-1 officials outlined expectations for this year, including the Michigan Department of Transportation’s rebuilds of Woodward Avenue and the I-94 and I-75 Woodward Avenue overpasses, the Penske Tech Center and track construction.

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Regional Transit Authority to unveil regional transit planning effort Tuesday

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Report: Detroit Riverfront Conservancy plans transit system along Detroit River
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The nonprofit Detroit RiverFront Conservancy is preparing to raise $3 million to fund a transportation system along the Detroit River that includes water taxis and trolley buses.

The Detroit News reports that the conservancy hired Michigan-based Freshwater Transit to study the feasibility of such a system. Based on the research, the conservancy proposed a plan for six water taxi stations and 14 trolley stops from West Riverfront Park to Gabriel Richard Park.

William Smith, the conservancy's CFO, said the first phase of the water taxi route would use six existing docks or access points along the river.

Its a cool idea and as projects like Orleans Landing and not to mention the numerous loft conversions that have already taken place along the eastern part of the river walk. Then there's the western part of the riverwalk there's finally going to be investment in Riverside Park the riverwalks western terminus. While the idea of a water taxi now is a little bit premature it seems that in the near future the infrastructure should be there to support it, i think the Riverfront Conservancy shouldn't have too difficult of a sell in the initial fundraising effort, despite the setbacks and cancellations during the recession the East Riverfront seems to have reached a critical mass and with a major hotel development coming to the eastern terminus the west riverfront once the Red Wings move to their new arena seems primed.


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^Please tell me this is not what they have in mind:

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It would have been great if the M-1 went all the way to Birmingham, but then again Birminghamers might not have liked it.
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^Please tell me this is not what they have in mind:

Dear god i hope not, i know the city has DDOT recently has started to replace it's antiquated fleet adding 80 new buses so I would hope they are they are thinking about something more modern...

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It would have been great if the M-1 went all the way to Birmingham, but then again Birminghamers might not have liked it.
Seriously, it hasn't been ruled out expanding M1 further but its a wait and see mode depending on how the 3.3 mile stretch does first. Although Pontiac, Royal Oak and Ferndale all would love to have M1 come through their cities, Bham and Bloomfield-Bloomfield Hills have a different point of view guess we see whose opinion matters more but expanding M1 into Oakland County requires it to be expanded to 8 Mile first perhaps in a once the former state fairgrounds redevelopment project gets underway there will be another push to get er up to 8 Mile but for now it looks like it's rapid bus transit for the rest of the Woodward Corridor.

Btw the RTA held a transit pep rally in Campus Martius yesterday releasing some new details about how to move forward on a comprehensive regional transit strategy, ill post details later on today when i have more time.
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 6:46 PM
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I think areas served by the streetcar will be more competitive than any other anyway. You can already see from what's apparently happening around the affected segment of Woodward. Projected development all around, I'm seeing in their city compilation thread.

It's a sad thing to say, but if rivalry between Oakland county and the city proper has been exacerbated, sure the suburbs don't like the streetcar. Cause in the end, everyone will beg for it. Rivalry within a same metro area is stupidly counterproductive.
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I think areas served by the streetcar will be more competitive than any other anyway. You can already see from what's apparently happening around the affected segment of Woodward. Projected development all around, I'm seeing in their city compilation thread.

It's a sad thing to say, but if rivalry between Oakland county and the city proper has been exacerbated, sure the suburbs don't like the streetcar. Cause in the end, everyone will beg for it. Rivalry within a same metro area is stupidly counterproductive.
The streetcar will have little to no impact on Detroit. It's just replacing existing bus service. There is no real transit improvement. It's basically being pushed because there is a wealthy landowner downtown who wants a parking shuttle for suburbanites to sports arenas, bars and the like.

The suburbs probably won't want it, but that would be a long way away. The first phase goes nowhere near the suburbs.
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^ I dunno. But again, development around the streetcar area seems boosted.
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^ I dunno. But again, development around the streetcar area seems boosted.
Causation/correlation issue. How does anyone know what "causes" something to happen?

In any case, improvements in downtown Detroit happened long before talk of a trolley.
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The streetcar will have little to no impact on Detroit. It's just replacing existing bus service. There is no real transit improvement. It's basically being pushed because there is a wealthy landowner downtown who wants a parking shuttle for suburbanites to sports arenas, bars and the like.

The suburbs probably won't want it, but that would be a long way away. The first phase goes nowhere near the suburbs.
I agree that 90% of communities in metro Detroit and more specifically Oakland County don't support the M1 rail, but Ferndale, Royal Oak and Pontiac all supported the rail and it wasn't that Birmingham was completely against the idea of the rail possibly coming up Woodward through it. The people who live in dense part of the Woodward corridor were supportive of the idea but with the city of Detroit lacking the matching funding at the present to extend the rail up to 8 Mile the idea of an Oakland extension was put on hold. The idea would be revived if the current project succeeds with its goals of ridership and attracting development then the idea of funding an extension up to 8 Mile would be revisited.

As to what kind of benefits the city is seeing you can argue that the recent wave of investment in the Lower Woodward corridor have been just a natural part of the recent wave of reinvestment Greater Downtown has seen. But before the rail is even completed there is debate on where all the new development is coming from is it nature or nurture or a combination of the both. I'm of the opinion that improved mass transit is one piece of a large effort that is happening in Detroit to help revive te city and the M1 rail helps make the statement that the city is going to do it right this time. The area of Woodward Ave from the river to Grand Blv has a diverse mix of business, municipal-civil complexes, entertainment, educational and residential, it isn't just about sports stadiums, casinos and their parking lots.

That's why groups and corporations with stakes in the city unpresidentaly came together because they saw the potential improved mass transit including light rail in the dense center of the city could do. Now I agree that the line being so small it's just a shuttle along the lower Woodward corridor right now. But the plan is for it to be linked to the greater BRT system that is planned to be region wide and the people mover small as it is, but the point is there is a greater plan that private leaders have put their own stake into to make sure that we wont make the same mistake we did 25 years ago.
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RTA kicks off master plan process with pep rally
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The Regional Transit Authority of Southeast Michigan today launched its effort to create a master plan by hosting a 20-minute pep rally in Detroit’s Campus Martius Park.

Some new details about future regional transit were revealed in media materials distributed to reporters at the event: Woodward, Michigan and Gratiot avenues each will be studied by the RTA over the next year to create a single master plan, termed the Building Equitable Sustainable Transit (BEST).

The master plan pieces are:

-Examine the state of the current transit system
-Determine the appropriate mix of transit service to meet the needs of Southeast Michigan
-Recommend future transit service, including new rapid transit and better coordination between the existing providers
-Lay out a realistic funding strategy and the steps needed to make this vision a reality

The goal is to have the individual route plans completed by spring 2015, and that plan will be the backbone of an effort to convince the public to approve a regional transit tax in November 2016. The Woodward route is from downtown Detroit to Pontiac; the Michigan Avenue route extends to Ann Arbor; and the Gratiot line is to Mount Clemens and Clinton Township. No cost estimates have been disclosed, but organizers have pushed for a train-like bus rapid transit system that would be cheaper than streetcars or light rail — which critics say is an inefficient half-measure.
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Causation/correlation issue. How does anyone know what "causes" something to happen?

In any case, improvements in downtown Detroit happened long before talk of a trolley.
Haha.

I'm going to just leave this right here:

http://www.portlandstreetcar.org/pdf...804_report.pdf

And that report is 7 years old.
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Would have been cool if they put grass between the trolly rails.
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Would have been cool if they put grass between the trolly rails.
The whole route shares the road with other traffic. They could only put grass if it was it's own Right-of Way.

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