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Old Posted Apr 18, 2012, 5:26 PM
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Conclusion: downtown west of the canal needs 3 stations, not 2. I agree with the NAC here, but the Rideau Centre should not lose out as a result, and nor should mid-downtown businesses.

The locations should be:

Station 1 - Between Lyon and Bay

Station 2 - Under Bank Street

Station 3 - Between Metcalfe and Elgin

Station east of canal - Rideau Centre at west entrance, also extending into the Byward Market near Dalhousie

I estimate the additional cost would be about $50 million, which could easily be raised by local businesses.
agree completely with these locations. Only thing that would be better for these locations is if they two blocks further south, where there are BIG developments planned or underway at each of these three locations which could be integrated into the stations. (then I'd have the Confederation station aligned the way Richard Eade suggested a few weeks back)
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2012, 7:07 PM
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Maybe time to get the rural areas out of the city in that case?
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Where do I sign?
Knock yourselves out:


Rural separation, Carleton County, De-amalgamation, etc.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2012, 3:25 AM
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Conclusion: downtown west of the canal needs 3 stations, not 2. I agree with the NAC here, but the Rideau Centre should not lose out as a result, and nor should mid-downtown businesses.
Lots of people have been saying that for quite awhile...

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The locations should be:

Station 1 - Between Lyon and Bay
With the Cathedral Hill development and the Technical HS site now looking like it might be developed, this could probably be moved to the west side of Bay under Queen to push the radius westwards to include more of the eastern end of the escarpment district. This station could also deal with transfers to buses like the #85 that head south on Bronson.

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Station 2 - Under Bank Street
And while we're at it, pre-build a second, deeper, platform for a future north-south line under Bank. Sooner or later someone is going to figure out that serving Lansdowne with ad-hockery just isn't [going to work/working] and that a real long-term solution will have to be found.

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Station 3 - Between Metcalfe and Elgin

Station east of canal - Rideau Centre at west entrance, also extending into the Byward Market near Dalhousie

I estimate the additional cost would be about $50 million, which could easily be raised by local businesses.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2012, 3:45 AM
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We need funding from Toronto (the fourth level of government). They have oodles of it.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2012, 9:25 PM
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And while we're at it, pre-build a second, deeper, platform for a future north-south line under Bank. Sooner or later someone is going to figure out that serving Lansdowne with ad-hockery just isn't [going to work/working] and that a real long-term solution will have to be found.
Thank You! I've been saying it for years!
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2012, 3:49 AM
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We need funding from Toronto (the fourth level of government). They have oodles of it.
But then they would also need to give even more to Montreal and Quebec.
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Thank You! I've been saying it for years!
Hell, why they were digging it up, they should have just buried box-tunnel segments under the utilities below Bank Street.
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But then they would also need to give even more to Montreal and Quebec.
The Ontario provincial government based in Toronto provides funding to Montreal and Quebec?
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No, it was just a dig over how much impact and sway Toronto has on the goings-ons in Ontario, kind of like a second level of the existing provincial government.
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No, it was just a dig over how much impact and sway Toronto has on the goings-ons in Ontario, kind of like a second level of the existing provincial government.
More like a first level...
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The Ontario provincial government based in Toronto provides funding to Montreal and Quebec?
you're right, my bad...
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David Reevely's reporting that OC Transpo has just purged basically its entire senior management cadre. Not much sympathy, since it's pretty hard to argue that the corporation is well run; but I am curious what the cost of all of the golden handshakes will add up to.
http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2012/...at-oc-transpo/

UPDATE: apparently about 650K in severance costs; which isn't too bad, actually, to purge 6 senior managers.

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David Reevely's reporting that OC Transpo has just purged basically its entire senior management cadre. Not much sympathy, since it's pretty hard to argue that the corporation is well run; but I am curious what the cost of all of the golden handshakes will add up to.
http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2012/...at-oc-transpo/

UPDATE: apparently about 650K in severance costs; which isn't too bad, actually, to purge 6 senior managers.
I hope you're joking... ~100k$ bonus pay for being incompetent!
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Old Posted May 2, 2012, 2:56 PM
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I hope you're joking... ~100k$ bonus pay for being incompetent!
firing people is expensive (even in the private sector), firing senior people is very expensive. getting away with 1 year or less of salary as severance for VP-level positions in a pretty large corporation isn't too bad of a hit at all.
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firing people is expensive (even in the private sector), firing senior people is very expensive. getting away with 1 year or less of salary as severance for VP-level positions in a pretty large corporation isn't too bad of a hit at all.
Quite true. In fact, if those executives haven't signed on the dotted line and this is just what the City has allocated for the severance, then it may be in for a nasty surprise...

Of course, sometimes people will take vastly less than they may be entitled to in order to avoid the cost of a legal battle, and to get the money up-front.
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Quite true. In fact, if those executives haven't signed on the dotted line and this is just what the City has allocated for the severance, then it may be in for a nasty surprise...

Of course, sometimes people will take vastly less than they may be entitled to in order to avoid the cost of a legal battle, and to get the money up-front.
terms of severance should be detailed in their contracts.... but...
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Looks like the articulated-bus era has started at the STO, with the first bus that arrived a few days ago. Though I guess they might take a bit of time for testing first before it enters service.
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wow. I like Manconi more and more every week. Maybe he should be in charge of the LRT project, too?
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Renovation budget for OC Transpo headquarters sliced in half

By David Reevely, The Ottawa CitizenMay 4, 2012 8:16 AM

OTTAWA — Plans for renovations to OC Transpo headquarters are being cut in half, slashing the bill from $14 million to $7 million, according to a memo written by general manager John Manconi.

The bill for the planned renovations, and especially confusion over what exactly all the money was for, was one of the last problems to beset Manconi’s predecessor, Alain Mercier, last winter. The transit commission had approved the budget for the renovations in the previous fall, but had trouble finding out precisely what was planned when the Citizen began asking questions.

Manconi’s memo describes the previous plan for the office building at 1500 St. Laurent Blvd. as a “total rebuild/modernization,” including replacement of mechanical, heating and air conditioning systems that are supposed to have 10 years of life left in them. It also included a remodelling of office space that’s not needed because it doesn’t add any additional room, Manconi wrote.

Between eliminating needless parts of the project and avoiding the need to move everybody out during a full-scale renovation, Manconi estimates the changes will save $7 million. The city will also make a little money beyond that by subleasing the space where 100 workers were supposed to move temporarily.

Plenty of other work does still need to be done, he wrote: “The recommended renovation includes all components that are currently at end of life, replacement of the waterproofing joints between exterior aluminum wall panels, lighting systems, the fire alarm system, and interior finishes such as floors, walls, ceilings and workstations. The renovations will improve the building’s accessibility by modifying access doors, adding proper door hardware, lowering the height of controls, installing signage, modifying drinking fountains and adding accessible washrooms and an employee fitness area.”

Air testing has found that contrary to earlier suspicions, the building doesn’t have a mould problem, Manconi wrote.

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wow. I like Manconi more and more every week. Maybe he should be in charge of the LRT project, too?
Maybe he should. That has me thinking - that 7 million should go straight into the 30, 40 or $50 million (depending on the Mayor's mood) third downtown station.
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Old Posted May 13, 2012, 12:12 AM
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OC Transpo Alerts ‏ @OCTranspoAlerts

Buses are not serving C.E. Centre and remain on Uplands Dr due to high traffic volume. #octranspo

1:34 PM - 12 May 12

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So... when transit is most needed to cut down on traffic... it's not there because of traffic.

Great planning Ottawa, great "planning".
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