SAN FRANCISCO | The Avery (400 Folsom) | 618 FT / 188 M | 56 Floors

[gillynova]

From near the Bay Bridge:

[timbad]

north side alleyway

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the scaffolding is off the rest of the podium...

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a *bit* more light this time

[waterchicken]

400 Folsom, Sat 10/13
[IMG]10-13-2018 City Walk by Daniel Alm, on Flickr[/IMG]

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[viewguysf]

I’ll ask again... How can we get the height corrected to 618 feet? Everyone keeps asking for taller buildings and here we actually have one that can marginally improve our statistics.

[Pedestrian]

Originally Posted by viewguysf

I’ll ask again... How can we get the height corrected to 618 feet? Everyone keeps asking for taller buildings and here we actually have one that can marginally improve our statistics.

Have you PM'd a Mod or Admin?

[viewguysf]

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Have you PM'd a Mod or Admin?

I attempted to list a correction, but found no option for this situation.

[Sky's the Limit]

Originally Posted by waterchicken

400 Folsom, Sat 10/13
[IMG]10-13-2018 City Walk by Daniel Alm, on Flickr[/IMG]

Stark contrast in this pic between old and new SF, thanks waterchicken

[SFBuildings888]

Originally Posted by Sky's the Limit

Stark contrast in this pic between old and new SF, thanks waterchicken

Hope they tear down this brick building and build a nice high rise building in its place.

[BobbyMucho]

Originally Posted by SFBuildings888

Hope they tear down this brick building and build a nice high rise building in its place.

Those few remaining old brick buildings are what help maintain a balanced (and interesting) urban fabric. Get rid of them all and you get Dubai or something austere and soulless. It's already bad enough most of these new buildings rely on materials that don't age nicely, like aluminum, glass etc., vs materials like brick, terracotta, wood and so on.

[1977]

Originally Posted by BobbyMucho

Those few remaining old brick buildings are what help maintain a balanced (and interesting) urban fabric. Get rid of them all and you get Dubai or something austere and soulless. It's already bad enough most of these new buildings rely on materials that don't age nicely, like aluminum, glass etc., vs materials like brick, terracotta, wood and so on.

Agreed. I'm all for more new buildings, but not when it involves tearing down brick buildings or other buildings with 'character' and history.

[SFBuildings888]

Originally Posted by 1977

Agreed. I'm all for more new buildings, but not when it involves tearing down brick buildings or other buildings with 'character' and history.

Yeah, but this particular building is of no use anymore.

[BobbyMucho]

Originally Posted by SFBuildings888

Yeah, but this particular building is of no use anymore.

I'm not quite sure how it's no longer "of no use anymore"? The point is that erasing old and replacing with new has never worked out well in the long run. Just ask the Fillmore.

[shakman]

Tear down this brick building and replace it with a nicer brick building.

[waterchicken]

Originally Posted by BobbyMucho

I'm not quite sure how it's no longer "of no use anymore"? The point is that erasing old and replacing with new has never worked out well in the long run. Just ask the Fillmore.

I feel the brick building is a great example of 1920's San Francisco architecture, it has some nice details. It's also occupied, so it has purpose. I am standing on Guy Place when I took the photo, there is a small park being developed there that's not in the shot.

During the morning in the summer months, any new construction that was taller would likely shadow the new park. I bet the chances are slim the brick building would get torn down for new and taller.

[Sky's the Limit]

Originally Posted by shakman

Tear down this brick building and replace it with a nicer brick building.

That is an option but personally I am more of an advocate of renovation and earthquake-proofing of the historic structures than demolition. Gutting and rebuilding the interior and reinforcing and stabilizing the brick curtain wall, which are prone to dangerous collapse during quakes. Jackson Square, one of the most beautiful, historic neighborhoods in the City, is a prime example of the renovation of such structures. We'll see it at Oceanwide Center with the integration of the historic buildings at the base of the towers at 1st and Mission. These buildings give us a sense of perspective of how the City has changed over time, as evidenced in the picture. I do acknowledge that it can be more expensive to renovate and re-engineer old structures than to demolish and rebuild. That was the case in Golden Gate Park with the de Young Museum and Academy of Sciences. Of course, the historical value in the preservation of a building plays a significant, if not legal, role in whether to demolish or renovate.

[iamfishhead]

The crane is coming down.

[waterchicken]

Bigge working on tower crane today:
City walk 12-15-2018 by Daniel Alm, on Flickr