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Old Posted Aug 12, 2010, 9:51 PM
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Hickenlooper for sure, but the senate race could be a tossup. Polls results today show Buck beating Bennet 46-41%.

I also really hope that Mike Fallon takes the CO-1 seat away from DeGette, but it seems unlikely.
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I also really hope that Mike Fallon takes the CO-1 seat away from DeGette, but it seems unlikely.
Really, really, really unlikely. DeGette is still to damn popular.

Bennet and Markey seem like the two most vulnerable incumbents in the CO Congressional races.
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I also really hope that Mike Fallon takes the CO-1 seat away from DeGette, but it seems unlikely.
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Really, really, really unlikely. DeGette is still to damn popular.
Oh I don't know Wong - it's probably at least as likely an asteriod the size of the moon striking the Earth tomorrow and annihilating it . I'm trying to figure whether DeGette just barely squeaks by 65% to 35% or it's the more typical CO-1 race and she obliterates him 78% to 22%. Fallon's a sacrificial lamb - I wonder what the GOP promised him for taking the a$$-whooping he's about to receive.
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He talked to my father for 30 minutes on the phone when he was doing a phone bank. He sounds like an honest guy who really wants to change the way things are done in Washington. He told my father that he's planning on saving all his campaign money until the last week, and when he told me that, I figured that he is absolutely cooked.

I don't care who it is— I just want to see DeGette unseated.
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I don't care who it is— I just want to see DeGette unseated.
Yeah - don't hold your breath. The dems could run a corpse and win in CO-1. Degette will hold that seat as long as she cares to - just like Schroeder. You should move to Denver and then you can have a say who Denver sends to Washington.
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2010, 11:38 PM
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Actually, I am a part of District 1. I don't care whether it's a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green, Socialist, Constitutionalist— I'm just tired of DeGette.
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Yeah - I never understood the districting - poor Cherry Hills for instance has very little in common with Denver proper. In absence of wholesale redistricting though, DeGette is essentially Congresswomen for life.
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He talked to my father for 30 minutes on the phone when he was doing a phone bank. He sounds like an honest guy who really wants to change the way things are done in Washington. He told my father that he's planning on saving all his campaign money until the last week, and when he told me that, I figured that he is absolutely cooked.

I don't care who it is— I just want to see DeGette unseated.
A candidate who personally has time to talk on the phone for 30 minutes to one random constituent is not what they consider a serious candidate. Trust me I wish they all had time to do that... but every year the number of constituents per district increases, and there are now about 600,000 voters per district. The consequence of limiting the size of the U.S. House of Representatives to 435 is that each rep. becomes farther and farther removed from ordinary people as the national population increases.

But a candidate who doesn't stand a chance will often have fun with it and try to build connections and donors to serve future political ambitions - so yeah, he'll spend 30 minutes on the phone with one voter. He is saving his money until the "last week" because he doesn't have enough money to spend in the mean time - the RCCC will not fund a guaranteed losing candidate and Denver is so liberal he has almost no donor base. He could be saving his money for another election where he plans to run for Senate or live in another district, or just schmoozing to run for mayor or city council or something later on.

DeGette is in the 7th safest Democratic seat in the Western U.S.... fivethirtyeight.com gives her a 99.9% chance of keeping her seat in a generic elction ( http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/...ity-index.html ), and in a Republican wave election her chances would be, perhaps, 99.8% - still safe. She's in such a safe seat that she doesn't fundraise for her campaigns (true story) while Markey and her opponent in Colorado's #1 swing district will each raise millions of dollars. She's also in a leadership position in the DCCC which is normally allotted to safe and senior members of a party. She usually runs unopposed.

Re-districting is NOT going to cut Denver's district in half - if it did, Republicans would be up in arms because it would turn two Democratic districts into safe seats instead of one (in which case DeGette would still be safe). Denver is so liberal that any suburban area you combine part of it with is going to be a Democratic seat.

Re-districting is instead going to end up making Denver into an even safer seat because the population increase will cause the tiny suburban portion of CO-1 is going to disappear and become part of Perlmutter or Coffman's district. Or maybe the airport will be chopped off into Perlmutter's district.
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Yeah - I never understood the districting - poor Cherry Hills for instance has very little in common with Denver proper. In absence of wholesale redistricting though, DeGette is essentially Congresswomen for life.
Yeah... poor millionaires... they should break off and get their own district of 4000 people!
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Hickenlooper for sure, but the senate race could be a tossup. Polls results today show Buck beating Bennet 46-41%.

I also really hope that Mike Fallon takes the CO-1 seat away from DeGette, but it seems unlikely.
Rasmussen put out that poll, and while they're reputation isn't completely bad, I'd be careful. Their "Likely Voters" sample is skewed even more Republican than the rest of the pollsters. I read somewhere that they are roughly +2 percent more Republican than the rest of the polls out there. Give or take, of course.

And I don't mind career politicians... as long as they are good ones. Look at Paul Wellstone from Minnesota. frankly, I want the people governing a global hegemon of the size of the US to understand the systems and processes of governance. You can only get that kind of experience by being in elected office. I don't want some joe schoe or jane schmane off the street representing me in office. Caveat: unless he or she has good ideas and an achievable plan to make them happen. I, too, yearn for the days of the citizen politician, but the sheer size and complexity of our country (and our world) requires savvier players.
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Given how early it is in the race and how anti incumbent everyone is for Bennet to be down by only 5% is not bad. Once the advertising starts and people really start to pay attention and given the fact this is a "base" election so once the republican base realizes that their guy won't win the governorship they will be less likely to turn out so I think all of that gives the edge to Bennet.
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Isn't Hickenloopers coast to the governors mansion more or less completely predicated on Tancredo actually staying in the race? I really do wonder if he'll stick this out to the end. I hope he does, Maes scares the hell out of me.
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Isn't Hickenloopers coast to the governors mansion more or less completely predicated on Tancredo actually staying in the race? I really do wonder if he'll stick this out to the end. I hope he does, Maes scares the hell out of me.
I don't think Maes could ever live down seriously being a paranoid conspiracy-theory advancing freak. There are enough democrats in the state that just highlighting that, along with all the very practical reasons Wong brought up that make him look really really inept, and he'd have trouble running against the CURRENT governor.
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Isn't Hickenloopers coast to the governors mansion more or less completely predicated on Tancredo actually staying in the race? I really do wonder if he'll stick this out to the end. I hope he does, Maes scares the hell out of me.
Given the fact that many prominent Republicans have retracted their endorsement of Maes, a long list of Conservative GOP electeds have formally endorsed Tancredo, the RGA announced it is not spending any money in Colorado because Maes is a "damaged candidate," and because many of Tancredo's people have pledged not to vote for Maes, who actually polls behind Tancredo, I think it's fairly certain Maes is not gonna be the next gov.
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Exclamation Springs voters back a Democrat? Poll says yes

Plus Colorado Springs is backing the democrat and that is rare. So I think its a shoo in for Hickenlooper to win this November.

That being said, I am not sure why they include Pueblo and Colorado Springs in the same poll as the cities are on opposite ends of political spectrum.


This is from the Gazette:

While Colorado Springs is known as the state’s GOP bastion, voters in the Pikes Peak region are backing Democrat John Hickenlooper in the governor’s race, according to a recently released poll.

The poll by research firms Public Opinion Strategies and FM3 shows support for Hickenlooper is deeper in Colorado Springs and Pueblo than it is in rural parts of the state. The Denver mayor and frontrunner in the race is besting Republican Dan Maes with 48 percent of the vote statewide and 52 percent of voters here, the poll of 473 voters shows.

That's a shocker because Democrats consider pulling 40 percent of the vote in Colorado Springs a landslide victory.

Maes is carrying 25 percent statewide, and third-party contender Tom Tancredo is carrying 15 percent. Locally, Maes has 34 percent of those polled while Tancredo is struggling to win GOP stalwarts with just 3 percent in the poll.

The poll shows growing support for Hickenlooper even among voters who have a history of backing Republicans.

It’s an outcome the GOP earned. The poll was conducted Aug. 28 through Sept. 1, while party leaders were increasing pressure on Maes to drop out of the race by arguing that he couldn’t win. Maes stayed in, and the results show that the GOP could pay mightily at the polls for bashing its nominee.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/spri...#ixzz0z4Ct9aXL
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I'd say this qualifies as great news:

http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_16245526

Skip the predictable unfavorable Obama numbers... the fact that the 3 government evisceration measures are polling badly is a hopeful sign for the state.
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^There's hope yet. I do wonder if Hickenlooper will ever break 50% in the polls. Too many people seem to love that draft-dodging piece of shit coward known as Tom that it's unbelievable.

Though if by some miracle 60, 61, and 101 do pass, I really fantasize about putting a few rounds in Doug Bruce's chest. I think that I'd probably get away with it.
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^There's hope yet. I do wonder if Hickenlooper will ever break 50% in the polls. Too many people seem to love that draft-dodging piece of shit coward known as Tom that it's unbelievable.

Though if by some miracle 60, 61, and 101 do pass, I really fantasize about putting a few rounds in Doug Bruce's chest. I think that I'd probably get away with it.
Yeah, I fantasize still about a citizens ballot initiative to let basically the entire 719 area code create their own state - we could call it the state of Pueblo.. at least then we would be able to count on rabid work for the measure. On a regional level that would be the same thing as putting a few rounds into the chest of everyone supporting him too. Seems impossible though.. CA always seems to bring up wanting 3 separate (Southern, Central and Northern CA) states but nothing ever happens. (not that a state ballot could actually make the division possible... but getting it started would be gratifying)
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Yeah, I fantasize still about a citizens ballot initiative to let basically the entire 719 area code create their own state - we could call it the state of Pueblo..
So do I!

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So do I!

Make it happen then... it would be GREAT for Pueblo from your perspective.
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