PHILADELPHIA | 418 Spring Garden Street | 151 FT | 12 FLOORS - Page 8

SEFTA · #**141** Posted **Jul 20, 2023, 3:06 PM**

I think many of Philly's surrounding satellite cities are very well connected and in some cases doing as well, relatively, to Center City.
They are well connected with transit.
Rare in US.

Aether · #**142** Posted **Jul 25, 2023, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by cardeza

Philly has very few natural barriers that would prevent office sprawl. Most of the cities above us on the lists you talk about have some sort of geographic issue that makes it more difficult to have huge sprawling office parks only a few miles outside of the city limits.

This is exactly it, while areas around center City and some other areas are flat, the edges of the city especially northwest and west Philly are very hilly or protected.
I also want to add that several corporations have moved into the city or the area, namely chubb and there new tower. I don't think center City will ever be a true office hub but that's fine
Downtown la was an office hub and outside of 9 to 5 jobs it was DEAD
Center City has a lot of variation in purposes and I think that makes it more flexible and unique

cardeza · #**143** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 12:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Aether

This is exactly it, while areas around center City and some other areas are flat, the edges of the city especially northwest and west Philly are very hilly or protected.
I also want to add that several corporations have moved into the city or the area, namely chubb and there new tower. I don't think center City will ever be a true office hub but that's fine
Downtown la was an office hub and outside of 9 to 5 jobs it was DEAD
Center City has a lot of variation in purposes and I think that makes it more flexible and unique

No one considers DC to be underperforming in spite of the huge % of office space that exists outside of the city proper. Of course the height limit is a major factor there, but the reality is the DC metro has office space spread out all over the region and in spite of great public transportation you see huge suburban office buildings built next to huge multi story parking garages in many cases. Similar to this area so many well educated, high income people live outside of the city that would prefer shorter commutes and safe/sterile suburban office complexes that are totally removed from urban ills.

3rd&Brown · #**144** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 1:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Aether

This is exactly it, while areas around center City and some other areas are flat, the edges of the city especially northwest and west Philly are very hilly or protected.
I also want to add that several corporations have moved into the city or the area, namely chubb and there new tower. I don't think center City will ever be a true office hub but that's fine
Downtown la was an office hub and outside of 9 to 5 jobs it was DEAD
Center City has a lot of variation in purposes and I think that makes it more flexible and unique

That's exactly not it. Philly underperforms within the region economically because of its byzantine tax and regulatory structure. The physical environment has nothing to do with it.

Plenty of cities in other regions have no "physical boundaries" and account for larger shares of their regions jobs. Like, every city in the sunbelt and midwest.

blart · #**145** Posted **Aug 6, 2023, 6:07 PM**

8/6 From the 2nd St MFL platform

summersm343 · #**146** Posted **Aug 8, 2023, 5:22 PM**

From Naked Philly

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...ern-liberties/

summersm343 · #**147** Posted **Aug 22, 2023, 8:32 PM**

Update from Naked Philly

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...ts-to-top-out/

summersm343 · #**148** Posted **Aug 30, 2023, 8:21 PM**

Brick Facade Going Up on 12-Story Tower Along Spring Garden Street

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...garden-street/

summersm343 · #**149** Posted **Sep 12, 2023, 3:52 PM**

Construction Tops Out At 418 Spring Garden Street

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2023/09/cons...ladelphia.html

summersm343 · #**150** Posted **Sep 12, 2023, 4:24 PM**

Update from Rising Real Estate (in the background)

https://www.facebook.com/risingrealestate

badthingshappen · #**151** Posted **Sep 12, 2023, 5:11 PM**

I love The Carson for the size and density of it, and what it means for the area, but man this and 200 Spring Garden are gonna put it to shame in the looks department

Redddog · #**152** Posted **Sep 12, 2023, 7:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by badthingshappen

I love The Carson for the size and density of it, and what it means for the area, but man this and 200 Spring Garden are gonna put it to shame in the looks department

So true. 200 SG is the bestest project in town right now.

blart · #**153** Posted **Sep 17, 2023, 2:07 AM**

9/16

SEFTA · #**154** Posted **Sep 17, 2023, 8:12 PM**

gjrip · #**155** Posted **Sep 17, 2023, 10:26 PM**

The facade materials on this look really excellent in person.

Jawnadelphia · #**156** Posted **Nov 14, 2023, 1:33 PM**

Nice video and close up of those one - what a good-looking project (the building officially topped out last week):

https://www.instagram.com/p/Czl3cd4iNtg/

Redddog · #**157** Posted **Nov 14, 2023, 3:45 PM**

This is turning out awesome.

blart · #**158** Posted **Dec 4, 2023, 8:16 PM**

12/4

blart · #**159** Posted **Jan 3, 2024, 8:17 PM**

1/3
Not much obvious change from a month ago-

colemonkee · #**160** Posted **Jan 4, 2024, 2:25 AM**

The plain concrete pre-cast panels on the interior courtyard and the back of the building are disappointing (especially people who look out onto the interior courtyard!!), but otherwise this building looks amazing.