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Seriously though, will the spaghetti-like suburban arterial streets in TC ever be rebuilt to more urban standards, i.e. straighter, more blvd-like; wide sidewalks; picture Champs-Elysees?
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The recent Transportation Research Board (TRB) conference had a session about redeveloping Tysons. Among others, Ron Kirby from the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments gave a presentation and Robert Cervero from UC Berkeley. I will try to post the various presentations. The blog, Greater Greater Washington wrote about the TRB session and the plans to redevelop this 'edge city.'

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/...-smart-growth/

Here are some excellent photos someone posted of the metro extension to Dulles and Tysons.

http://mysite.verizon.net/cambronj/w...-VA-267-01.htm

http://mysite.verizon.net/cambronj/w...-VA-267-02.htm

http://mysite.verizon.net/cambronj/w...15-VA-7_01.htm
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Good find on the silver line pics. I have been watching the development as it progresses and it is pretty exciting. I noticed in the article that the author states that tysons is expected to be the 7th largest downtown in the country by 2030. That seems pretty vague. Largest what?; in size, population, jobs?
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Who wants the dirt on the most recent proposals, and images galore? \



The SAIC proposal (tallest 420'):

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/tys...t/saicplat.pdf

Capital One (tallest 392'):

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/tys...apital_one.pdf

Georgelas Group (tallest 360'):

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/tys...s_cdp_plat.pdf

The Georgelas Group's certainly seems the most ambitious in terms of area being developed, although all three are massive expansions. I really hope the county reconsiders the 400' height recommendation for future developments as well, even something at 500-600' would be remarkable for the area. SAIC's proposal would certainly be the closest thing yet to a regional skyscraper icon, given it's proposed at 420' to roof and one of the illustrations shows a spire, perhaps past 500'?

Also, phase 1 of Georgelas's project involved construction of its tallest proposed building(s), unlike the other two projects.

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Rendering of Tysons II fully built-out from KPF:

http://www.kpf.com/project.asp?T=9&ID=120

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Good stuff Babyback. I hope these projects don't have too much resistance in getting built. I know that Tyson's and Fairfax county want the change to happen, I guess it's convincing residents which will take the most work.

Looking at all of the renderings and models, especially that last one of tysons II, the curving streets make it look like a Belgian city like brussels.
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New proposal by Cityline:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021805721.html

They're proposing 8.5 MSF of development, which is the largest of any project yet (although I'm not sure on specific SQ ftg for the mall projects).

Adding all the major sites together (SAIC, Gergelas, Capitol One, Tysons I, Tysons II, and now Cityline), the total proposed development is now approaching 30 million square feet, which is enormous. Obviously this will be constructed over the next ten + years, but the scale of what's about to happen in Tysons is the closest thing to Dubai the US will see (in terms of boom--obviously not height). It's going vertical, finally!
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@Babybackribs2313:

I don't know if all of these will get built but there is a massive amount of development planned or ready to break ground this year in DC. Anyone who opposes investing in transit needs to take a trip to the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor or Tysons and see the billions of dollars of development it encourages.

-American University (nearly $300m for development of new law school, east campus housing)
http://www.american.edu/finance/fas/...ampus-Plan.cfm
-City Center (i.e. redevelopment of old convention ctr)
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/2011/02/ci...aunch-pad.html
-North Bethesda's Rock Spring Center
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/2011/02/no...centre-is.html
-Southwest Waterfront
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/2010/12/fi...-shape-sw.html
-Tysons
http://greatergreaterwashington.org/...-smart-growth/
-Wiehle Ave metro station transit-oriented development
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/2011/02/re...t-heralds.html
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=1590
-White Flint
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/2010/11/no...blowin-up.html
-Rosslyn
Central Place (http://www.centralplace.com/)
1812 North Moore (http://www.1812northmoore.com/)
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The CityCenter article is particularly interesting as the authors mention that downtown DC only has 5 MSF of development left before it's maxed out, and just CityCenter/the air rights proposal take up 4.3 MSF, leaving only 700k left to be developed (and the fact that only FIVE surface parking/dilapidated buildings remain in downtown!).

The maxing out of downtown is definitely a boon for other areas and most likely Tysons in particular, given land in Tysons is (while expensive) still relatively cheap. What I'd like to see happen would be a relaxation of the density limits set for Tysons... as well as the "recommended" height limit of 400' or so. If Tysons has widespread areas allowing FARs of 10-15 with a general height limit of 750' (perhaps 1,000' at Tysons Central?), it would be... wonderful! At the same time, the 400' cap will likely encourage more street frontage and pedestrian friendly designs, and prevent any huge towers from overwhelming the market. While the cap is good for the initial transition in Tysons, I don't see it being feasible by the 2020s as development pressure mounts.
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Parc Reston Owners Have Yet Another Plan for Tower Construction (Reston Patch)

Parc Reston Owners Have Yet Another Plan for Tower Construction
Athena still wants to build large housing complex across from Reston Town Center.

By Karen Goff
March 16, 2011

"Representatives of the owners of Parc Reston showed a new design plan to Reston Association's Design Review Board (DRB) on Monday, at least the third concept that has been proposed for that spot since 2005.


Athena Renaissance Reston's latest concept design for the Parc Reston property.Credit Reston Association

Athena Renaissance Reston, which owns Parc Reston, a garden complex that was converted primarily to condos in the early 2000s, wants to build two, 14-story residential towers on the part of property that is still rental units owned by Athena.

The 360-unit buildings would replace three existing buildings (82 units) at Reston Parkway and Temporary Road, said Mark Looney, attorney at Reston law firm Cooley LLP, the firm representing Athena...."

http://reston.patch.com/articles/par...#photo-5283031
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Wal-Mart planned for Tysons Corner (Washington Post)

Wal-Mart planned for Tysons Corner


Wal-Mart is planned as part of a new development in Tysons Corner at Route 7 and Westwood Center Drive. (image courtesy of the Washington Post)

By Jonathan O’Connell
March 22, 2011
Washington Post

"Wal-Mart plans to open a store in Tysons Corner on the site of the former Moore Cadillac dealership as part of a mixed-use development that will probably be one of the first to accompany Metrorail’s arrival to the area.

The 79,000-square-foot store would join new offices, a gym, parking lots and other stores as part of a project by developer JBG Cos. on Leesburg Pike between Ashgrove Lane and Westwood Center Drive. JBG and Wal-Mart are in final negotiations on a lease agreement, company officials said. Construction is to begin this summer and would finish in 2013, when the Tysons West Metro station is scheduled to open on Spring Hill Road, a quarter-mile south.

Wal-Mart plans a Tysons Corner store that is smaller and more focused on groceries and fresh food than the chain’s traditional Supercenters, which can be more than twice as large and offer a wider array of goods. The store will be similar in size to one that recently opened in Alexandria. The chain announced in November that it planned to open at least four stores in the District that will also have large grocery components, and store officials have been meeting with residents and city leaders as they finalize plans.



“As we get closer to opening our first stores in D.C., Wal-Mart will continue to seek additional opportunities in surrounding communities like Tysons Corner to spur economic development and provide local customers with a broad assortment of products at everyday low prices,” company spokesman Steven Restivo said in an e-mail..."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...6EB_story.html
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Nice looking Wal-Mart. In response to your earlier post about the parc reston condo's, has anyone heard anything about the re-development of the stripmall on reston parkway and sunrise valley that are adjacent to parc reston?
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Access to new Metro stations still a big question (Washington Post 3/27/2011)

Access to new Metro stations still a big question

By Kafia A. Hosh
Sunday, March 27, 2011

"For Tysons Corner area residents, construction of a new Metrorail line is more visible than ever. They see concrete piers and bridges looming above the Capital Beltway, and they wonder: how will we get to the Metro stations?

When the four stations open in 2013, none will have parking and only the Tysons East and Tysons West stations will have kiss-and-ride drop-offs. Some of the 100,000 people who work in Tysons will ride Metro there, and developers are seeking to add bridges, new doors and plazas connecting stations to their businesses.

But it will take time before the shopping and employment center redevelops into a mixed-use downtown with a mass of residents who can walk to the stations from home. For now, residents of nearby neighborhoods are accustomed to driving, and there are few firm plans for how people will actually access the stations.

Unlike other urban Metro stations, the Tysons stops are above-ground, in the medians of Route 123 and Route 7. The entrances would be located on each side of highways and two would have pedestrian bridges..."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...wkB_story.html
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http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/traffic/m...-reston-040511

So the boom finally begins in Reston. I anticipate very rapid growth there, but nothing too huge just yet (compared to Tysons). I think that while news is slow now for projects in Tysons (although the Walmart is now underway), we will get several new projects by the end of the year as we near Metro's completion. Given what I've been reading, I really would not be surprised to see 5 to 10 new towers in the 20-story + range by 2015.

(that is, assuming the Washington region's very robust growth continues--which I think it will)

I think the focus on the Tysons-Reston corridor and the continued rapid growth of the area will cause this new area of access to densify faster than areas of Arlington along the Orange Line did, simply because the scale of this development is so large. While it's disappointing that Reston is putting a 2,300 car garage next to the Metro, at least it'll be underground with offices/residential on top/nearby.
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DC Mud had a post about Comstock's Reston Station development yesterday.

http://dcmud.blogspot.com/2011/04/re...way-today.html

There is also a webcam for the development.

http://live22.truelook.com/index.jsp...omstock/webcam
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Great thread in here.

As both a resident of tysons corner and a professional civil engineer who has worked in the development field in northern virginia its been fascinating to watch the development from the planning board to the actually beginning of new proposals as well as shovel ready projects beginning to break ground. I'm proud to say I live in what I consider the first step Tysons took to the urban oriented community of Park Crest One. For the last 2 months Ive been intently watching the new piles and foundations being formed for the Avalon Park Crest, which I hope continues to proceed on pace for open in 2012. Enough about what I like about this thread, heres the developers side to why Fairfax/Tysons hit a homerun with timing

First the board timing, by waiting until the economy was stable (which mostly was also due to the final federal allocation for metro) to really move forward with the public discussion of the new tysons, people didnt automatically discount it as a pipedream. It was clear then that not only did fairfax survive the recessions lowest point but that it could offer a unique benefit to some of the worlds biggest Federal consultant companies of being close to a huge educated employment base and next door to DC.

Second, the other retort for alot of contrarians on Tysons was that so many smaller commercial lots that do solid business would not be willing to sell what has been profitable for them. Well with Capital One, SAIC, and Georgelas kicking it all off it seems that the local Benz dealership really never stood a chance. And best of all, even these big time developments are willing to play ball with what the board has in mind with the new look of Tysons as they know, the more urban Tysons becomes the more attractive of a spot these new office/residences become to the final tenants.

I think the same engine that made Tysons the nightmare sprawl that it became really in the late 90s and early 00s is still at work, but now under correct direction and planning (finally), which means, some of the estimates on how long it really will take, might be shortselling the potential. With big pockets and a green light from planners/county reviewers it is shocking how quickly a 30-40 story building can really pop up. The engineering and architectural road blocks remaining are really pretty small, adequate utilities have been in place well in advance of all this, road network/metro has been well under construction for 2-3 years now, and there is no shortage of construction companies chomping at the bit for a piece of the biggest (atleast financially) urban project in the US.

Over the next couple of months I'll make sure to visit back to this thread with some pictures of things happening above ground (as I know most of you guys could probably care less about what us engineers do below the dirt).
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Plan for the development of the Commons of McLean! Not much detail offered, but the linked article in the Washington Post says the entire project will comprise 2,500 units, and the graphic of the neighborhood's layout actually looks like a true urban grid. Very excited for this project to get underway, and as the Washington Post article notes, many projects will be underway shortly.

http://www.parkerrodriguez.com/detai...ypeID=3&PID=50

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...5cE_story.html
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Did some more digging tonight, and... OH MY GOD. Hit the mother lode of graphics/information regarding everything going on in Tysons Corner (at least among plans already submitted). The presentation is long but worth it, and the scale of development is just staggering--the scale of Tysons is going to increase exponentially, and I think we really will see a legitimate city develop. This is just... ridiculous!

http://www.slideshare.net/fairfaxcou...esentation-all
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Good find babybackribs2314,

The interesting thing is, I just had 3 friends move into the Commons of Mclean this month. Their rent was extremely affordable compared to other apartments available in the area, and now I am wondering if part of that reasoning is due to the eventual demo and rebuild. I assume they wont try to do all of that work at once, and will phase it over 5-10 years keeping cash flow coming in.

Can't wait to see it built, I'll keep a look out for construction vehicles and or any new construction plans coming into the county.
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Took a look around and found a new illustrative rendering of the CityLine redevelopment of Westgate office park that I dont believe was previously posted.

Westgate Office Park
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