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Old Posted May 18, 2017, 1:00 PM
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But the Buffalo Sabres aren't the Sabers, something I've never been able to find an explanation of.

British spelling wasn't really very common in Canada until the patriotism of the First World War refocused what had been becoming more and more a branch plant of the US on our Britishness.
I was taught both British and US spellings in elementary school in the 70's and early 80's. Each was positioned as an alternative and both were acceptable. Both my parents were educated in US spelling (1950's) in rural AB and SK. The rise of formal Canadian English didn't really happen until the Dictionary of Canadian English was published. US spellings were extremely common in AB until the early 80's (ex. I distinctly remember Southcenter Mall being rebranded as Southcentre in 1982). Centre Street has always been Centre Street to my recollection.
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Feb-you-airy is forbidding in the ar-tic. All you can do is sit in the house staring at the pitchers on the walls.
February is one of the very rare tell-tale words that if I say it will tip most people off that I am not a native English speaker.

I have trouble pronouncing it for some reason.
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February is one of the very rare tell-tale words that if I say it will tip most people off that I am not a native English speaker.
I have trouble pronouncing it for some reason.
I get really tripped up on the French "Bourguignon", as in the beef kind.
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I have no problem with that one. The two that do me in are "bouilloire" (kettle) and écureuil (squirrel). Just too many alien sounds in close proximity for me to get my mouth around them all at more than half speed.
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It's kind of funny how the call for a more nationalistic approach to Canadian orthography was in effect a call for the observance of UK over US norms.
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It's kind of funny how the call for a more nationalistic approach to Canadian orthography was in effect a call for the observance of UK over US norms.
The distinctive aspect of Canadian orthography is its blending of UK and US norms, no? The issue arises with the shift from one form to the other (almost always from UK to US norms). I wonder if there is a comprehensive list of Canadian spellings that correctly conform to UK and US norms, respectively?
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The distinctive aspect of Canadian orthography is its blending of UK and US norms, no? The issue arises with the shift from one form to the other (almost always from UK to US norms). I wonder if there is a comprehensive list of Canadian spellings that correctly conform to UK and US norms, respectively?
The Canadian Press style guide?
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It's kind of funny how the call for a more nationalistic approach to Canadian orthography was in effect a call for the observance of UK over US norms.
It's been mentioned a few times on here that Canadian English spelling used to be more consistent with that of the U.S., and that it has become (a bit) more British-influenced over time.

I honestly had never heard of this before, and always thought that Canadian English started off as primarily British-influenced, and that it had *bravely* and semi-successfully staved off American influence over a couple of centuries...
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I have no problem with that one. The two that do me in are "bouilloire" (kettle) and écureuil (squirrel). Just too many alien sounds in close proximity for me to get my mouth around them all at more than half speed.
'Bouilloire' doesn't seem to contain any "tricky to Anglos" sounds, at first sight... You can pronounce the 'u' that's in écureuil as well as in a gazillion other words correctly? If so, I'm impressed

I've had the following happen countless times to me with learners (both Anglo and unilingual Hispanic) :
Me: "u."
Them: "ou."
Me: "No... u!"
Them: "ou."

It usually ends after I get fed up
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