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Old Posted May 19, 2017, 8:47 PM
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The $23million overhaul of Kiener Plaza downtown opens today.




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Old Posted May 20, 2017, 9:25 PM
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Kiener Plaza remake. This is the latest CityArchRiver phase to open in downtown St. Louis - and just in time for the summer. It cost about $24-million.

The nearly $400-million, CityArchRiver project will bring a new a museum with highly-interactive exhibits, new pathways and trails, water features, new landscaping, statue refurbishments, lighting etc.

It is all part of the mile-long Gateway Mall that stretches from the Mississippi River to Union Station.

SEE VIDEOS HERE and HERE.

Below, the parking garage/commercial building (to the left) is slated for remodel.


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Old Posted May 21, 2017, 12:46 AM
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St. Louis puts Seattle to shame in terms of parks in its downtown area. Most of our green space is on the downtown fringes, not really in the core. Your parks can be walked to at lunch our from the largest buildings.

And benches in the shade (or what will be shade in a few years)...a concept we need to learn from.
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I can't help but really dislike that plaza. The design makes no sense and there is way too much space dedicated to tile (badly colored tile at that). I like what they're doing around the arch though, the symmetry looks great, why didn't they continue the same symmetry and materials with Kiener plaza?
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Old Posted May 21, 2017, 2:29 AM
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The quantity of pavement suggests that festivals will be held there. And maybe a few food trucks sometimes.

Outside of those I'd agree that more grass would be good. But they do have a wealth of grassy areas in nearby parks too.
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Old Posted May 21, 2017, 4:36 PM
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^^ & ^ The intent is to use it as an event space and have seasonal programming. I'm fine with the amount of pavement, but not a big fan of the paver colors/pattern either. It's too much, IMO. I'm okay with the asymmetry too. Citygarden a block west isn't symmetric, and there's an inherent asymmetry in the mall due to the Gateway One office building. There are lots of benches and interactive features in addition to the event space. Once the trees fill in I think it will be a well-used and attractive space, especially if we can ever replace those horrible garages with residential.
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Old Posted May 22, 2017, 3:34 AM
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I don't like the appearance from above, but at ground level it looks better / more engaging. I agree that the pavers are not great. Probably better than a single monotonous color though.
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Yes, the newly-redone Keiner Plaza is to be event space-driven.

Keep in mind too that this is basically a mile-long park mall. The Soldier's Memorial on the western part of the mall is currently undergoing a $30-35-million renovation.

They are trying to attract all kinds - families, old, young, millennials etc. - to the these new and renovated (green) spaces.

In my personal opinion, the whole St. Louis region is great when it comes to parks.

Forest Park, Tower Grove Park, Lone Elk Park, Jefferson National Expansion Memorial Park (Arch Grounds), Laumeier, Cahokia Mounds State Park (10 minutes from downtown in Illinois) etc.
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