Canadian LRT/RT projects U/C

[1overcosc]

Doesn't CETA require a loosening of Canadian content rules for public procurement and greater access to this market for European producers?

I hope so. I'm sick and tired of Bombardier constantly getting away with underperforming by being guaranteed protectionist contracts.

[Zmonkey]

So where are things standing with montreals new system proposal? They keep saying it will be up and running by 2020, but has all funding been commited and when do they start the actual,work?

[p_xavier]

Originally Posted by Zmonkey

So where are things standing with montreals new system proposal? They keep saying it will be up and running by 2020, but has all funding been commited and when do they start the actual,work?

The procurement process is nearly over, the jury was announced and the proposals are being evaluated. https://www.cdpqinfra.com/sites/defa..._2017_en_0.pdf

The city of Montréal, the QC government and the CDPQi have reached a deal for the financing. The feds are nowhere to be seen so far, but the CDPQi says that a deal is coming soon. Again it's not surprising for the feds as they are seen as favoring other provinces as always. Montreal has never gotten federal money for a transit expansion. The federal budget should give an idea.

The contracts should be given in June and work will start after that.

[MalcolmTucker]

Yeah the next stage of the infrastructure program needs to be announced first. In the past federal participation in large projects was mostly on whether it was good to fund many small projects or one big one. The money still flowed as long as the province/city spent more than the required match.

[p_xavier]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Yeah the next stage of the infrastructure program needs to be announced first. In the past federal participation in large projects was mostly on whether it was good to fund many small projects or one big one. The money still flowed as long as the province/city spent more than the required match.

For Montréal, the project is a go in any cases, feds or no feds.

[caltrane74]

Big crane being set up now on Yonge Eglinton for the TBM (tunnel boring machine) extraction.

I'll try to get some pictures this afternoon.

[p_xavier]

The REM will have the deepest metro station in Canada

[J.OT13]

Ottawa's Stage 2 LRT going to council today. If approved, south extension will open by 2021, east by 2022 and west by 2023. Fully built out, the O-train will have 50 kilometers and 40 stations.

[Beedok]

Are they finally combining Iris and Queensway into one station?

[Aylmer]

It was always the plan to simply eliminate the Queensway station. Instead, there'll be Iris on the southern branch and a new station on the western branch (Queensview).

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by Aylmer

It was always the plan to simply eliminate the Queensway station. Instead, there'll be Iris on the southern branch and a new station on the western branch (Queensview).

Yes, essentially Queensview Station replaces Queensway Station with Queensview in a much more useful location.

[gunnar777]

Originally Posted by d_jeffrey

For Montréal, the project is a go in any cases, feds or no feds.

This is great news if true, but I'm just curious how the funding will work. Will the QC gov pay the difference?

[p_xavier]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

This is great news if true, but I'm just curious how the funding will work. Will the QC gov pay the difference?

Hopefully will not have to.

[gunnar777]

Originally Posted by d_jeffrey

Hopefully will not have to.

So they would pay then, if the feds don't?

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

So they would pay then, if the feds don't?

La Caisse doesn't need all the money from the start. They can front the cash and be paid back in 2019. $1.5B that's it.

[gunnar777]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

La Caisse doesn't need all the money from the start. They can front the cash and be paid back in 2019. $1.5B that's it.

That's great news. I really hope this project is unstoppable. It will make Montréal into a rail transport kind of city, with rt in most directions (albeit tons of room for improvement and further expansion). A definite and overdue first for Canadian cities.

[OutOfTowner]

Originally Posted by d_jeffrey

For Montréal, the project is a go in any cases, feds or no feds.

It won't be completed by 2020. Partially in service maybe but fully completed? Not a chance!

[begratto]

Originally Posted by OutOfTowner

It won't be completed by 2020. Partially in service maybe but fully completed? Not a chance!

That's what the CDPQ has been saying all along: partial service in 2020 ; most likely the Brossard <-> city centre portion

[p_xavier]

Originally Posted by begratto

That's what the CDPQ has been saying all along: partial service in 2020 ; most likely the Brossard <-> city centre portion

Yup, all 3 lines running in 2021 but one in 2020. I assume the Ste-Anne-De-Bellevue-Rive-Sud line, since it should be the easiest to build. Édouard-Montpetit and McGill to open later too.

Hopefuly this project is a success, as the CDPQ wants to use it as a benchmark for transit planning/building/financing. Remember that the feds contribution is an equity stake and not a subsidy like other transit projects in Canada. In that case, why should Montrealers subsidize poorly planned projects in other provinces (looking at you Scarborough Subway!)

[DDP]

How can they construct the LRT in Montreal without federal funding, when the project needs federal funding to actually be completed?

Glad to see the push though, I grew up west island (kirkland), and hav't lived in Montreal in 10 years but nice to see them actually thinking outside the box to get transit done. Unlike here in Toronto where people just like talking about there perfect version of transit on a map.