noirish Los Angeles

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ScottyB

I have a fondness for tricycles..... Here is a early version for grown-ups called a Velocipede. I would very much like one of these.

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Previous post pic by ER

ScottyB likes tricycles.....me too. Yep, that's me on my fav tricycle.. a Velo-King, made in England in the 1930s.

The location is our rented house on Violeta Dr., Alhambra. The rent was $100 a month furnished which my mom thought was overpriced. [Minimum wage was 43 cents an hr then] We lived there for a year while our new house was being built in San Gabriel...about 3 miles away.
That's my stepdad's 1946 Buick in the garage, so this must have been a weekend.


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Same house today in 2017.

gsv

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The building I couldn't figure out (in the distance shown below) turned out to be the Crescent Arms on 8th Street.



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What did the rooftop sign spell out in the 1950s?

The building at 1709 W 8th Street, which is now the Crescent Arms, spent some of its early life as the Halliburton Building, due to Halliburton Oil being a major tenant. I haven't tracked down any decent pictures of it during that time, but I believe the roof sign just says "HALLIBURTON BLDG".

BTW. The building on the corner of Wilshire and Burlington from the original post was the subject of a mystery location back in 2014:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"IBM office employees, Los Angeles." (no date)


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I thought it would be fun to try and locate this office by using the clues outside the window.

Here are the follow-up posts:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24252 - Lorendoc

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24254 - HossC

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24258 - HossC

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24259 - Lorendoc

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

If you look closely you can see the sign for Carpenter's Drive-In across the street (on the northwest corner of Wilshire and Western)


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Although Carpenter's Drive-In was on the northwest corner of Wilshire and Western at some point (as seen in the undated picture below), in 1931, when the photo above was taken, Carpenter's was at 667 S Western Avenue, which is on the southwest corner of Wilshire and Western. It would've been where Melody Lane is below. My original post on Carpenter's, which includes menus, other locations and close-ups, can be found here.

Originally Posted by HossC

I checked out the intersection, and so far this is the only picture of Carpenter's I could find.


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Is Harry Carpenter's Drive-In open for business here? There's no tower on the roof and the parking lot looks very quiet.

[oldstuff]

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;7713985]ScottyB likes tricycles.....me too. Yep, that's me on my fav tricycle.. a Velo-King, made in England in the 1930s.

The location is our rented house on Violeta Dr., Alhambra. The rent was $100 a month furnished which my mom thought was overpriced. [Minimum wage was 43 cents an hr then] We lived there for a year while our new house was being built in San Gabriel...about 3 miles away.
That's my stepdad's 1946 Buick in the garage, so this must have been a weekend.

I see that you are both wearing sweaters, or jackets. In my family we had a saying "put on a sweater, your mother is cold" which may have been the case here?

My stepdad always had Buicks too.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's an original color negative for sale on ebay.

"[19]48 MACMILLAN Gas Station, 6th & NORMANDY L.A. 4"x5" ORIG.COLOR NEG"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/MD34-125-48-...3D351976904464

No obvious remnants of what was once [Odell Smith's "Smitty's"] Macmillan Service Station at 3601 W. Sixth Street - north of the Normandie Hotel. Gas was sold at this corner as early as the '30s, e.g., Dixie Gas.


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Looks like another old friend, Cassell's (formerly at 3266 W. Sixth) has moved west and gone upscale.
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http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7565

[Martin Pal]

A friend took me to lunch at that (new location) Cassell's last September...very good!

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You beat me to it Martin Pal. I had photos saved up for a post about Vicki "The Back" Dougan.
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"Sorry about that, Chief!"

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Southeast corner of Wilshire and Burlington Ave.

gsv

The building is still there with a 'modern' facade tacked on the front. (which needed to be removed and the integrity of the building restored)
The understated clock needed to be put back too.
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I'm kinda surpised that street lamp (with the wordy sign on it) is still there!

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts

Anent the above post: where is NoirCityDame these days? Haven't seen her in a while and I always enjoyed her posts so much.

No specific knowledge. Her Feb 18, 2016-post may provide a clue: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=33723

[Blaster]

Yes, the new Cassell's is good but the burgers and food are completely different recipes from the original. I used to go to the original about once a week for its grubby Old Los Angeles charm but it was clearly dying a slow death. Frankly, I'm not sure why the new place is using the name since older customers are likely to be disappointed, even though, on some level, the new food is better!

[ethereal_reality]

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as seen from Wilshire & Burlington

Originally Posted by HossC

The building at 1709 W 8th Street, which is now the Crescent Arms, spent some of its early life as the Halliburton Building, due to Halliburton Oil being a major tenant.
I haven't tracked down any decent pictures of it during that time, but I believe the roof sign just says "HALLIBURTON BLDG".

Hoss, thanks for solving this mini-mystery.

I stared at that damn roof-top sign for quite awhile last night trying to figure it out.

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[BifRayRock]

More MACMILLANS.

1929 - 411 S. Fair Oaks, Pasadena



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...coll170/id/175


















"I use MACMILLAN [Ring Free Oil] in my car."
http://file.vintageadbrowser.com/l-4juqfy3h56qb3q.jpg




1933 - Roscoe and Ring Free [Special] Airport unk.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/43931




1933 - Driving that [MACMILLAN-sponsored] Plymouth from LA (City Hall) to NY

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/60758



















1935 - Louis Meyer (and young companion) in [MACMILLAN] Ring Free Special. (Location unk.)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/44874

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for the MacMillan follow-ups BifrayRock.
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'mystery' location.


"Original Negative, 1937 Los Angeles"


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I thought it might be fun to try and figure out where the photographer was standing when he took this pic.
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[BifRayRock]

MACMILLIAN "Ring Free" Petroleum continued.





1931 - State Building Construction ("Look Ma, no walls.")

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/17355




MACMILLAN and a smidgen of Violet Ray.

[HossC]

It's been a while since we've had a Julius Shulman photoset from Palos Verdes. This is "Job 4723: Kamnitzer and Marks, Villa de Vento (Palos Verdes Peninsula, Calif.), 1971". It's a mixed set of black & white and color images - I'm posting about half of them.



I don't even know what to call this style of architecture.



This is the only interior shot, although one of the omitted images was taken from the inside looking out over the balcony.



Here's the entrance in color.



A close-up of the image above showing the name and street number.



The last photo shows some of the courtyard in the center.



All from Getty Research Institute

Googling "Villa de Vento" proved fruitless, so I tried combinations involving the street number. In the end, I found that the building is now known as the Knollbrook Falls Apartments at 5711 Ravenspur Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. The apartments have hardly changed, except for the additional of lots of surrounding trees, so I've gone for an aerial "now" view.


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[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' location #2 (for this afternoon)

"4 x 5 Black & White Negative, Los Angeles Street, Vintage Cars 1957"


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This is probably the best clue.


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Good Luck sleuthmeisters!
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[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts

Anent the above post: where is NoirCityDame these days? Haven't seen her in a while and I always enjoyed her posts so much.

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

No specific knowledge. Her Feb 18, 2016-post may provide a clue: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=33723

Originally Posted by Noircitydame

A photo is one thing, but someone routinely takes research from this site and puts it on his own, without credit, and creates the impression that it's his own work. The information I posted a couple of weeks ago about 335 N. La Brea for example is all there and he says "here's what I've been able to piece together..." Seriously? It's not cool.

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

The Rules on photos is still rather murky and not well understood. She should at least give you some credit for the photo use.

As I understand it, its generally OK to use photos, written quotes and short film clips for ''historic, educational and information'' purposes without violating copyright laws.

People get into hot water when they use someone's photos to gain income or money in some manner.....without permission.

I've been threatened several times on this issue. I do one of two things, I remove the photo or ignore the threat. Sometimes I apologize but that is very rare.

Personally I have never complained about someone using my photos...I feel its flattering that they would like it and they're welcome to it. Life is too short to get into a snit for nothing.

NCD did have a point-- over the years there have been several sites I follow the "operators" of which sometimes, if not often, seem to lift items directly from NLA and from some of my own sites, without, as NCD says, attribution. When I noticed it, I'd chime in with a link to the "original" as a subtle way of indicating that the use has not gone unnoticed. I more or less agree with CBD--

[BifRayRock]

Reasonably certain we have seen this 1935-image of the Rio Grande/Sinclair Station at 9884 Santa Monica Blvd. (Santa Monica and Charleville). This may have been at the SE corner of that intersection, but it appears that we are actually looking E x NE. Hiding in the background (to the right) is the Good Shepard School (148 S. Linden) and (to the left) the (former) Bekins Bldg on Santa Monica Blvd.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/44657




GoogleMaps







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Sneak'in Bekins (Edit. 215 S. Canon Drive)




1935 - Beverly Hills Panorama including Bekins on Canon
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics40/00039926.jpg



https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...1b42b795f0.jpg



Put out the fire.


Another NLA-covered Rio Station worth revisiting was at 5582 Melrose (No 9) - along with The Pirates Den and Boomerang Cafe here:http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24152

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's one more 4 x 5 negative for tonight.

The seller says this is the 3100 block of S. Figueroa.


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This is the 3000/3100 west-side block of Figueroa, but from "behind." The big house on the corner is 3131 S Fig; we are on W 32nd St in this view looking east. The house was the home of BSD insurance man Otto F. Brant, whose granddaughter Marilyn (b 1931) would marry Otis Chandler.

One reason the house and its carriage barn--the bldg at left--are dilapidated is because they're about to be torn down. At least two of the cars seen are newish--the two right behind the phone pole at left, a Pontiac ('55 or '56) and a '55 Dodge. A demolition permit was issued for the house on May 4, 1956....

[BifRayRock]

Too bad this 1935-compilation of NLA-familiar Gas Co logos is not in color.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/43517


Rio Grande (Non-leaded, 1st Grade. High octane gasoline by using aromatics rather than T.Lead? Anyone shed some light on the "649" appellation? FWIW, Sinclair acquired Rio G, which may explain the Sinclair name on numerous Rio G stations.)



Gilmore



Hancock



Mobil



Flying "A"



Shell



Richfield



MACMILLAN



Texaco



Union-76



What, no Violet Ray?

[Earl Boebert]

Good old "Flying A." They sponsored sportscasts and the announcers at college and Pacific Coast League baseball games. Every time I hear the National Anthem my mind tacks "Play ball...with *Associated*" on the end :-)

Cheers,

Earl

[ethereal_reality]

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