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Old Posted Sep 22, 2008, 2:06 PM
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That's my friend's house! It's right here in Hamilton near the University. They've done a beautiful job on it.

Pedant alert: Pigott is spelled with one 'g'. Thanks!


Thanks for the Buffalo link, Flar. I adore Buffalo. I used to spend more time there when I lived in St. Catharines. Oddly, you missed the most sublime of all Buffalo buildings (and I mean Sublime in the 19th century Romantic sense, ie. TERRIFYING), the NY State Mental Hospital by H.H. Richardson.

http://nysasylum.com/bpc/bpchome.htm

You could do an entire thread just on it alone. It is truly jaw-dropping.

And don't even get me started on the FLW houses.

Get to work, Flar!

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Old Posted Sep 22, 2008, 2:19 PM
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^^I didn't have enough time to go beyond downtown Buffalo. I think the old mental hospital is a ways north of downtown? I didn't go to Central Terminal either, but I got an aerial view of it.
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It's not too far from the Albright-Knox, if memory serves. We stumbled upon it wandering around after a visit to the gallery. I'm a big architecture fan, but I haven't been impacted by many buildings as much as I was by the hospital. It's hard to put into words. I didn't realize what it was until I got home and had a chance to look it up. Definitely worth a trip back to Buffalo, and the FLW houses are up that way as well. I have a handy pocket guide to Buffalo architecture I'd be happy to lend you if you want to plan another trip.

The industrial waterfront is a thing to behold as well, but I wouldn't want you running afoul of US Customs!
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You wanna see Art Deco? Check out Buffalo: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158116
Funny, Buffalo is another city I was told was a rat hole, but doesn't look it from your photos.

I guess it might be the people, not the buildings though...
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Buffalo is in the process of getting gentrified..
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Funny, Buffalo is another city I was told was a rat hole, but doesn't look it from your photos.

I guess it might be the people, not the buildings though...

Contrary to popular belief, Buffalo is very clean. There are some rundown residential areas, but I think many of them have been demolished.
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Funny, Buffalo is another city I was told was a rat hole, but doesn't look it from your photos.

I guess it might be the people, not the buildings though...
I actually like Buffalo as well. I find Buffalonians to be some of the nicest of the Americans I have come across. Especially in the Northern US.

The downtown IS very clean, but there's really nothing there unfortunately. If you like Architecture, you'll like downtown Buffalo. If you like shopping/people watching, you'll want to avoid downtown Buffalo. Elmwood village, just outside downtown (pretty much same distance as Locke St to Hamilton's CBD) is a good place to visit for that.

'Real' shopping is best done at their Walden Galleria Mall though.
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Which city is bigger?
Buffalo or Hamilton?
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City of Hamilton is bigger, Buffalo has been losing tons of people over the years. But Buffalo has bigger suburbs, in USA they cover a larger area than Canada for metro population.
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Setting aside municipal boundaries, Buffalo is bigger with a metropolitan statistical area of 1.1 million.
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Which city is bigger?
Buffalo or Hamilton?
Buffalo has a larger population, but it's residents are ALL in the suburbs. The city proper has a pretty high abandon rate.

Check out Wikipedia.org I actually had to research this info a while ago and was dumbfounded by the loss of population Buffalo has gone thru. This is pretty much the same for any American city tho. Americans love suburbs, what can I say.

Buffalo Metro: 1.25 Million people
Buffalo City: 292,000

Census Pop. %±
1830 8,668 —
1840 18,213 110.1%
1850 42,261 132%
1860 81,129 92%
1870 117,714 45.1%
1880 155,134 31.8%
1890 255,664 64.8%
1900 352,387 37.8%
1910 423,715 20.2%
1920 506,775 19.6%
1930 573,076 13.1%
1940 575,901 0.5%
1950 580,132 0.7%
1960 532,759 −8.2%
1970 462,768 −13.1%
1980 357,870 −22.7%
1990 328,123 −8.3%
2000 292,648 −10.8%
Est. 2007 272,632 −6.8%
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_New_York

So pretty much, growth slowed to a crawl in the 40's and started to reverse in the 50's... same time suburbs were coming around.
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