NEW YORK | 200 Greenwich - 2 WTC | 1,270 FT | 80 FLOORS | ON HOLD - Page 56

NYguy · #**1101** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

eeeh... hate to be a downer but the original, especially counting the mass of it was quite a bit larger

The mass was certainly larger, but the impact on the skyline will be pretty much the same. Can't see why anyone would be "down" about that.

Zapatan · #**1102** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:23 AM**

still say the original 2wtc makes this building look like a lamp post.

STR · #**1103** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

STR, may I request a render of the entire new/old WTC complex side by side?

Yeah, I could cook something up tomorrow. Are you thinking from ground level, or from the air, or what? Please be specific.

Here's the crop from today. I had a request to show of 3 & 4, which aren't done, but here's a bit more of them. I think one of these even shows the placeholder I have for Tower 5.

Messing around with material settings. I think this gives a much better metallic effect. The trick now is to make it not take 30 min/render, while still keeping it looking good.

uaarkson · #**1104** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:37 AM**

From the air would be great. Something to show the full height/size of the new complex vs. the old.

I'm telling you man, these renders could get you noticed in a big way.

NYguy · #**1105** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

still say the original 2wtc makes this building look like a lamp post.

Yeah, a 1,300 ft tall lamp post, with a little brother nearly as tall. You can find many things to complain about with this tower (as I'm sure you will), but size shouldn't really be one of them.

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STR · #**1106** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 8:05 AM**

A little earlier than promised...

NYguy · #**1107** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 1:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by STR

A little earlier than promised...

Wow, very impressive work. Tower 2 seems to be the star of the entire complex, but we're years away from seeing how that plays out. My only complaint is that
from the north side, T2 rises as a sheer, plain wall (fins included) for almost the entire height. The diamonds that allow for a stepped back, rise near the summit
aren't visible. In that sense, it's more like the originals, and will be just as dominating, even with more towers present. Overall though, I say we can't complain.

uaarkson · #**1108** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 5:37 PM**

Better than any official renders.

sterlippo1 · #**1109** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 9:50 PM**

beautiful but now we can see what an extra 200+ ft or so on 7WTC would have meant closing up that space..........

yankeesfan1000 · #**1110** Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 10:13 PM**

SRT, incredible work man, this is such a gorgeous building. It's really nice to see all the angles from Midtown, this complex and cluster of skyscrapers is going to be gorgeous when finished.

winlinmac001 · #**1111** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 5:29 AM**

BTW- How do they plan to utilize Window-washing on this building? You can't use same window-washing machines like those present on the former trade center, can you?

STR · #**1112** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 6:16 AM**

The former WTC, like the Sears Tower and few other buildings, use(d) a completely automated system, where a robot would scale up and down the building on rails.. Most buildings don't these days, instead using old school window washers. As far as I can tell, the top 3 floors of 2WTC house a window washing crane. I'm not sure if there's more than that on the building, but I'd bet there is.

winlinmac001 · #**1113** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 10:55 AM**

Interesting approach.
BTW- To those that are complaining about the new WTC site, Do Not underestimate its scale!

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**1114** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 4:00 PM**

Is it now certain that construction will put on-hold when it reaches streetlevel?

uaarkson · #**1115** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 4:02 PM**

Not at all, although that is the current plan.

scalziand · #**1116** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 8:02 PM**

Nice job with the diamonds on the top, STR.

STR · #**1117** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by thelanetrain17

^ the performing arts center (which i think is way out of place there but thats just me). Has there been any progress on this building.

Kinda digging this up, but I don't recall seeing it anywhere, but the design for the PAC (which, honestly, isn't nearly as bad as Gehry is capable of) and the latest news

http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2010...00m-boost.html

IMADreamer · #**1118** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 11:15 PM**

Those renders are great, they really help put in in perspective. Thank you for posting those.

Now I'm really excited about seeing this all completed.

Don098 · #**1119** Posted **Nov 1, 2010, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by STR

This is my favorite angle of the entire complex, by far.

winlinmac001 · #**1120** Posted **Nov 1, 2010, 5:33 AM**

@STR, would it be possible to post a rendering of the new Overall WTC site, incorporating the WTC Transportation Hub, Memorial Pavilion (Visitor Center), Performing Arts Center, and Trees in and around the site. This would be awesome! I wonder how some detailed WTC Retail renderings look like. Also, where is Vehicle Security Center?