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Old Posted Jul 10, 2013, 3:25 PM
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Maloway says there is no detour and the deadline is tight so the underpass will be finished prior to next election. Well bud, the underpass needs to be completed prior to March 2015 because the federal program is ending. He knows this. Completely politics on the Maloways part. Why didn't they raise this issue months ago?

But at the end they the NDP chief of staff and the city say the project will go ahead as planned with no detour, as was agreed upon last year. Okayyy. Isn't Maloway an NDP? So they're on separate pages but in the same party?
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2013, 3:33 PM
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prolly from nimbies bitching about the closure like with the disralie
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2013, 4:11 PM
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West side construction taking place?

Wow, they hauled 4 loads of mud, dug three inspection holes, and cut a ditch this week. If they continue at this rate, construction should be complete about 2025.

Can't see why they closed Plessis Rd., they're not doing anything that involves traffic. The flag man has been doing sprints to keep himself awake, someone should get him a stool.

When are they going to put some equipment on this job?
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But at the end they the NDP chief of staff and the city say the project will go ahead as planned with no detour, as was agreed upon last year. Okayyy. Isn't Maloway an NDP? So they're on separate pages but in the same party?
Maloway is more of an independent, the NDP tolerates him and allows him to run under the NDP banner because they know he will get elected. Notice after all of his years as an MLA he has never been a minister?

He has zero interest in his constituency or his constituents. He only speaks out on issues like this because it requires zero effort on his part, but gets his face on camera.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2013, 9:30 PM
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Wow, they hauled 4 loads of mud, dug three inspection holes, and cut a ditch this week. If they continue at this rate, construction should be complete about 2025.

Can't see why they closed Plessis Rd., they're not doing anything that involves traffic. The flag man has been doing sprints to keep himself awake, someone should get him a stool.

When are they going to put some equipment on this job?
Apparently the site was shut down by CN today........ This has got to be one of the most, what's the word, unco-operative maybe, projects I have ever seen.
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CN does have the power to stop work in their right of way if it interferes with their rails, or communications plant.

I wonder if somebody damaged a S&C fiber line which would cause a shutdown as the signal blocks would be not working.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2013, 9:47 PM
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CN does have the power to stop work in their right of way if it interferes with their rails, or communications plant.

I wonder if somebody damaged a S&C fiber line which would cause a shutdown as the signal blocks would be not working.
Yeah, and at this location railway is senior of course. It has something to do with agreements....
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2013, 5:41 PM
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Agreements!

The City has always had problems with agreements. Case in point, that's why there is no roof on the new stadium.

Did Russ do any checking on this situation before they decided to put in an under-pass rather than going over top and eliminate all the hassles with CN?
Russ isn't a very good councilor because he isn't a stickler for the details, just another pretty face for the cameras. You have to have follow thru, every hockey player and golfer knows that.

Well, they sent the flagman home after dumping 2 loads of 'A' base, 2 of limestone and one sand on the roadway. Maybe Sam and Russ can play cars in the sand pile for the next year while they fix things up with CN. I'm not impressed! As I said before, they haven't screwed thing up too much and all can be fixed, because Sammy is still looking for a way out of this promise he made to Russ for his support.

Note to Russ! Sonny, find a new dog to play with, because your puppy isn't coming back and Daddy can't fix it anymore. Uncle Bernie doesn't have any clout either.
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The city would still have to have an agreement with CN to go over their mainlane so the same legal access problem with the delay may have occured.

I also sort of think that Russ W is not dealing with CN. Its going to be between the Winnipeg city legal department and CN's legal department.

If anything the city legal and material management (aka purchasing) departments should be getting their fingers rapped for having the contractors start before all the legal work was done.
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There was a sub-agreement whereby CN would allow the City to have staff on the property prior to the main agreement being finalized. That sub-agreement expired looks like August 9 from previous comments on here. Not sure what the status of the agreement is or what works are being completed on site. From the sounds of it, there's not much going on.

And just to clarify, the City pulled staff from site when the agreement expired. CN did not eject anybody.

PS I was never here or told you anything
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2013, 9:20 PM
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This project looks to go to tender in Sept.
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Maloway is more of an independent, the NDP tolerates him and allows him to run under the NDP banner because they know he will get elected. Notice after all of his years as an MLA he has never been a minister?

He has zero interest in his constituency or his constituents. He only speaks out on issues like this because it requires zero effort on his part, but gets his face on camera.
Maloway is a self serving charlatan whose NDP affiliation is in name only, Jim could easily switch party banners to which ever constituency he could get elected in. Can usually be found tooling around town in the biggest new ride he can afford that particular year, favours cheap suits, spends most of his time working on his own endeavours. Genuine tool.
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Mid September update

Today, the boys down at the construction site are hoping for rain. It's the only way that they can justify the equipment being there and nothing being done. They have been playing in the mud and moving piles of gravel back and forth like chess pieces. Someone wrote that tenders were due in September, but they didn't say what year!

Comments around the coffee shop are saying that they should have never closed Plessis until they were actually ready to start the project. My answer to this is, remove the barricades and let traffic flow, those crossing the tracks will find it no better or worse than normal and the gravel piles just make the drive home a bit more interesting.

Russ is on vacation at the lake and personally, I think he is contemplating throwing his hat in the ring for Sammy's job. Does anyone think he has a chance? I heard that his mother had to tie porkchops around his neck so when he went out, the dog's would play with him. If he runs on his record, I don't think ass kissing is considered sport.

and you all have a great week....
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2013, 3:32 PM
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It's depressing already. I don't know how this thing will be completed on time....
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2013, 5:55 PM
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It's depressing already. I don't know how this thing will be completed on time....
Never was meant to be completed. Sammy was only using Russ for his afternoon plaything.

If this project was to become reality more engineering and planning would have gone in to it. You don't dig a hole in the swamp to put in a underpass, you build a bridge or an overpass. They should stop right now, and rework the the plans to a overpass that would clear the CN tracks and Dugald Rd. The result would be no stop lights and a clean flow of traffic in all four directions. Any engineer with a pencil and the back of a Safeway brown bag could have a plan drawn out in 15 minutes. Too much bureaucratic bull ding is hampering projects from becoming reality.
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2013, 6:05 PM
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It's one of those things where the engineers know exactly what needs to be built. Like you said, overpass with parclo at Dugald. The politics are exhausting already...
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2013, 8:43 PM
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They should also put up better signage indicating what exactly is closed. Many trucks are turning into residential Transcona through Ravenhurst I'm assuming because they see the signs and assume that the whole intersection of Dugald and Plessis is closed. Unless they've changed the truck routes without public knowledge, only Pandora, Wayoata and Day are truck routes east of Plessis. Have seen semis on Kildare, Redonda and Regent east of Plessis since the barricades went up.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2013, 5:20 PM
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Sorry people, I'm going to have to call this one a big cluster # # # # . This project isn't going to happen, so let's just put the road back together, open it up and get on with our lives. Next time there is an election, watch where you are putting your " X ".

I've been known to give fault to Sammy and Russ, but the City's Works and Operation is one of the perpetrators of this disjointed project. If this project is ever to get off the ground, the powers to be have to remove the City and Province from the playing field and power should be placed in private hands to re-design and build it..

The design is wrong, no if's, and's or but's.

Let a private firm take a clean sheet of paper and re-draw what is needed for this site. Have the three levels of government actually put the money into the POT physically. Everyone that thinks they have an interest in this project, back the hell off and give the contractor room to do what he has to do to complete it.

In fact, why don't we have a group of 12 people of all different facets of life sit on a panel to view construction projects, obtain necessary funding from Governments, allocate construction bidding and awarding of projects, and complete projects within allotted time frames.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2013, 5:51 PM
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Alittle I hope you aren't serious. This project is actually in jeopardy? If it's cancelled this would be a huge embarassment for the city.

Then again, as you mentioned, could be a positive development in the long run if the project is eventually redesigned into a rail overpass incorporated into an interchange at Dugald. But *gasp*, building an interchange at that location may mean the city would have to twin Dugald further east
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2013, 6:00 PM
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Yes, the project is a huge mess.
No, it is currently not in jeopardy of being cancelled.
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