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Kallos said he’s opposed to a high-rise luxury residential tower in a residential neighborhood, and will be looking to mobilize the community to push back against the size and scope of the Sutton Place Development.

“The brochure tells the story for us,” said Kallos. “What’s most concerning to me about [the project] is that it’s creating a future where the only people that will have a right to light and air are the people who can afford it.”

Community Board 6 chair Sandro Sherrod told Our Town that the board, like Kallos, was just made aware of what’s being proposed at Sutton Place through constituents. But because the project is as of right, any plans that are filed with the Dept. of Buildings would not come before the board for review.

Kallos reinforced his opposition to the project as proposed and urged constituents to contact local elected officials to voice their concerns. With enough community support, he said, it’s possible to insert a zoning text amendment or height restriction before the developer builds over 50 percent of the base of the building.

“This is our chance, otherwise we will get a super-scraper in a residential neighborhood and we won’t be able to do anything about it,” said Kallos. “This is literally about the one percent having light and air, and the rest not.”

But it’s clear from the sales brochure that the ability to build big is one of the assemblage’s biggest selling points, and that whoever buys the site will likely have plans to build as tall as possible.
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REVEALED: 900-Foot Norman Foster-Designed Condo Tower Coming to Sutton Place



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First spotted by the eagle-eyes at SkyscraperPage, a New York Press article has given us our first look at a potential 900-foot skyscraper reportedly designed by Foster + Partners and developed by the Bauhouse Group. The New York City-based real estate development and investment firm had recently closed on the three-building $32 million rental portfolio in tony Sutton Place at 428-432 East 58th Street. In March, the firm acquired a fourth property at 426 East 58th Street.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2015, 11:29 PM
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Community planning is horrible and this is an excellent primer on why it is ruining cities. It is never positive input, it is only vitriol from people who would be directly affected by projects, and thus they do not want anything to be built. Community input is never to improve the building or make it better, it is to serve the selfish needs of petty individuals.

And it is no coincidence that this is a very rich neighborhood, which makes their cries against the 1% even more stupid. HORRIBLE.
     
     
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I hope the design is changed to something a little more elegant.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 12:22 AM
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I like that render better...


Resized the others for a cleaner view (though the design itself may not be final)...






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what's the one labeled "Baccarat Residences"? Looks like a supertall and Baccarat already built a sizable hotel in Manhattan. Is it the same tower? It's in the cityrealty rendering as well.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2015, 9:32 AM
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what's the one labeled "Baccarat Residences"? Looks like a supertall and Baccarat already built a sizable hotel in Manhattan. Is it the same tower? It's in the cityrealty rendering as well.
Was probably meant to be something else, unless its an additional Baccarat Residences tower planned (the location shown would be that potential supertall on Broadway). But I see the Tower Verre missing as well.
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In the coloured render from cityrealty, that's just a 900 foot massing for Vornado's Rizzoli site
     
     
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Norman Foster buildings usually use spectacular exterior finishes...here's for hoping that would save this if it were to be a box without the cutouts.
     
     
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In the coloured render from cityrealty, that's just a 900 foot massing for Vornado's Rizzoli site
He's talking about the other rendering.
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A Conversation With Joseph P. Beninati

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Q. What’s happening with your other big project, a development that will take place at the site of four low-rise rental buildings on East 58th Street near Sutton Place, which also includes air rights.

A. It’s one of the quietest blocks in New York City, a very leafy block. We’re going to build another condo there, probably between 90 and 100 units. This will be our largest project. We’ll start with studios there.

We’ve had an opportunity to work with Foster & Partners.

Q. When will construction begin on this project?

A. We’ll start the demolition this summer.
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http://www.nypress.com/local-news/20...t-sutton-place

Drawing a Line At Sutton Place

BY DANIEL FITZSIMMONS
MAY 26, 2015


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A proposed development by the Bauhouse Group to build a 900-foot tall residential tower in the historic Sutton Place neighborhood shocked many when it was revealed by Our Town in April. Since then, according to Community Board 6 and Councilmember Ben Kallos, residents who live in the area have joined forces in a plan to stop, or at least limit, the scope of the project.

Bauhouse began years ago to build an assemblage allowing for a 268,000-square-foot tower that would be the one of the tallest in the city and the second-tallest on the Upper East Side, behind the in-progress 1,400-foot 432 Park Avenue. The development includes 58,000 square feet of inclusionary housing rights, and consists of four building lots totaling 80 feet of frontage on East 58th Street between 1st Avenue and Sutton Place.

According to sources with knowledge of the development, Bauhouse is actually looking to unload the parcel to another developer. In response to the proposal, CB6 passed a resolution that could serve to limit how high a buyer can build on Sutton Place.

“The community expressed strong opinions that the proposed construction will ruin the scale and character of their neighborhood,” said CB6 in its resolution, referring to a meeting this month at which more than 100 people voiced their concerns about the project. The board said it invited Bauhouse to the meeting and were told that company was not yet prepared to make a presentation.

The resolution, citing Our Town’s story in April, supports rezoning mid-block areas in CB6’s territory to a lower density than the current R10 zoning allows for, which is the highest residential zoning designation in the city.

It also proposes government action such as a Department of Buildings delay upon receiving an application for approval of plans. Other government action could include a moratorium on super-high towers, according to the resolution.

The board’s position is that the long-term impact of mega-towers on surrounding neighborhoods, which they call a “recent innovation,” cannot be fairly and completely assessed since the technology that made them possible was not around in 1961 when the city’s zoning districts were created. These impacts include those on infrastructure, traffic, parking, waste removal, and fire and ambulance services, according to the board.

“Thus further investigation and study is needed, especially since this development…appears to be as of right,” said the board in its resolution.

When asked to comment on the board’s resolution, a spokesperson for the Bauhouse Group said the company “is aware of the community’s concerns, as laid out by Community Board 6’s resolution. We respect and are open to hearing the viewpoints of community members and we look forward to a productive dialogue.”

Councilmember Kallos said of the three options put forth by the community board, he believes down-zoning midblock areas is the most viable.

“I do support the community call for a moratorium, but that would be completely up to the mayor,” said Kallos. “The ultimate thing we need to look at is contextual zoning for a height cap.”

Kallos said he was struck by the speed at which the community moved to block the Sutton Place development.

“In less than 45 days, from the first publication [about the Sutton Place development], the issue went to the community board land use committee, was heard, voted on, went to the full board for a vote, passed, and has been sent to City Planning,” said Kallos.


The resolution was sent to City Planning on May 15. Kallos said his office and CB6 have already started an environmental assessment study, which would be included in their forthcoming City Planning application to down zone mid-block areas in the district.

“We’re working with the Sutton area community and we’ve already begun starting work on the EAS,” said Kallos, who has been raising awareness about the development and collecting funds from area residents to pay for the study. “Interest in this issue has been tremendous.”

Kallos said just because a development is as of right does not mean the community cannot push back against a project they’re opposed to. A zoning change by City Planning would trump a developer’s right to build as large as they want in an R10 area.

“We are redefining their rights and trying to change the law,” said Kallos.

The plan, said Kallos, is to get the zoning change through the ULURP process before a developer, whoever it may be, breaks ground on the lot.

Whoever buys the development from Bauhouse would still need to file designs with DOB. Once approved, a developer can begin excavating the base, but that can only be done in warmer months. In total, the process could take six months to a year to complete before any ground can be broken.


“We’re moving full steam ahead in a way that hasn’t happened with any of the other mega-towers we’re seeing crop up across the city,” said Kallos. “We have to draw the line when it comes to residential areas. “They’re just going to keep creeping up throughout the city.”

Please...


For the record, these supertall towers aren't "creeping up througout the city". They're being built in the highrise environs of certain parts of Manhattan.
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Old Posted May 27, 2015, 11:57 PM
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Sutton Place is located in ... you got ... Midtown Manhattan. Supertalls und big skyscrapers in Midtown? No way, I'm shocked!!
     
     
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the board’s position is that the long-term impact of mega-towers on surrounding neighborhoods, which they call a “recent innovation,”


If recent means 1930 sure. Back in the day, ESB and Chrysler where the mega towers of the era. Times have changed, and the bar has been raised.
     
     
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I hope City Planning doesn't listen to these silly NIMBY's and that's really what these people are. Downzoning any part of Manhattan especially one that is in such a prime area of Midtown would be disastrous to the city's already tight housing market and unaffordability.

Manhattan needs more upzonings not downzoning because it is in the best position to absorb the largest number of housing units. It's got the infrastructure and frankly it has the highest demand. Downzoning any part of Manhattan would just spread the unmet housing demand elsewhere in the city and beyond.
     
     
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These impacts include those on infrastructure, traffic, parking, waste removal, and fire and ambulance services, according to the board.
With the exception of fire fighting, all those impacts are identical regardless of the building massing.

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It can be argued that these ultra luxury towers actually reduces the use of those services on a per square foot basis.

Each of the units in these buildings are huge compared to the older buildings they replace and they have less potential occupants. They are also investments or pied-à-terres, so few actually live in them and are usually empty except for a few weeks out of a year.

Someone needs to go to those CB meetings and debunk those NIMBY claims. I nominate Crawford.
     
     
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