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Originally Posted by Mrs Sauga
Ottawa got fleeced for Spezza and Heatley and Bishop. I can't remember the last time a Canadian team made a fair trade lol.
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Winnipeg did alright on the Evander Kane trade - especially since there was enormous pressure to trade him, which greatly reduces their bargaining power.
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Originally Posted by J.OT13
Heatley was complaining about his role and asked to be traded. For him, we got Michalek, who was a productive player, good leader and great example for a young Ottawa team.
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Heatley flat out demanded a trade was refusing to play. Bryan Murray, to his credit, managed to get a trade for Michalek (and Jordan Cheechoo - who was useless at that point), essentially getting $0.50 on the dollar for Heatley. In all fairness, his hands were tied and Heatley had blocked (what at the time seemed to be) a better trade to the Oilers for Dustin Penner. It's not fair to blame management for that trade outcome as they were in a no-win situation.
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Originally Posted by J.OT13
Once he was past his prime, we traded him for Dion Phaneuf, a much needed defensive defensemen.
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Let me fix that for you
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Once he was past his prime too frequently injured to be useful, we traded himtraded salary headaches with Toronto for Dion Phaneuf, a much needed defensive defensemen a pricey, yet usable second-pair defenseman.
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Originally Posted by J.OT13
Spezza got the captaincy after Alfie left because we knew he would complain if he didn't. But the guy was a lazy, immature jerk. Out for a back injury, yet was able to fight people in parking garages. For every point he made for Ottawa, there was a major f*** up on his part that caused a goal against us. For him, we got Nick Paul, who has potential.
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This I don't get - Spezza was producing about a point-per-game as a centre, yet was constantly shit on by the fans and media of Ottawa. To relieve themselves of this 'distraction' Murray traded Spezza and prospect (Ludwig Karlsson) for Nick Paul, Alex Guptill, Alex Chiasson and a 2nd round pick (later flipped to the Devils, which they used on Canada WJHC goalie Mackenzie Blackwood). Chiasson was just traded out of town for a minor league depth defenseman after putting up only 40 points in 2 seasons in Ottawa. Nick Paul just finished his Draft+3 year and made a limited appearance in Ottawa's lineup this season. Guptill is no longer in the Sens organization having been traded to the Sabres in an exchange of minor league spare parts.
In the meantime, Spezza has put up 125pts in 2 seasons in Dallas.
All the Senators have to show for it is a guy who is running out of time to become an NHL player, and will likely not exceed a 3rd line role. Nice job
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Originally Posted by J.OT13
Otherwise, we're not that bad when it comes to trades, and Ottawa is arguably one of the best teams when it comes to drafting. Case in point in recent years are Jean-Gabriel Pageau (96th overall 2011) and Mark Stone (178th overall 2010).
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You can go into any team's draft history and pick out some late round hits. Even the Leafs have some - Leo Komarov (6th round, 180th 2006) or Carl Gunnarsson (7th round, 194th 2007). I don't think Ottawa is exceptional in that regard.