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Old Posted Sep 28, 2007, 4:24 PM
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I just joined today after visiting for the last week. I transferred out of the area in 99 and now trying to work my way back. Couple questions: What's happening around the Fox? Last time I was there they were just finishing Comerica Park. I always wondered what's become of the area right behind the Fox. Nice cozy little streets but no activity. Got any pic's? Also, being an eastsider, I'm always curious about what's happening out there.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2007, 10:15 PM
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Hey, welcome friend.

I was just behind the Fox today working on my photo updates. The area has been sitting pretty stagnant aside from a few projects like the Kales Bldg Lofts, Cliff Bells Bar, and the Centaur in the Iodent Building Lofts. Ilitch isn't doing anything with the lots or other buildings at this time, except for the Detroit Life Building, which he is gratiously renovating.

The Park Avenue neighborhood demonstrates fully what the urban experience is and should be, and therefore it cannot be lost or bulldozed over. There's hope, it just needs more interest from developers aside from Ilitch Holdings.

Watch for photo updates on greater downtown tomorrow.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 5:16 AM
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 5:32 PM
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This is a big one! Could almost be its own thread. The size is mostly due to more than one photo of a single project. I guess that's because many of them are moving right along to completion.

DETROIT - Friday, September 28 2007

South University Village, Wayne State University
As seen from Cathedral Tower.


Mixed Use - Studio One Apartments


Forest Avenue




Woodward Avenue








Looking north


MOCAD's New Exhibit


No more Forest Tower Apartments. Now, a lovely urban surface parking lot.


Engineering Building at Wayne State University.


New Amsterdam Lofts puttzing along.


Wayne State Police Headquarters are moving to this building on north Cass (Techtown).


Casino Windsor Hotel Tower showing up on the skyline.








Completed Hotel St. Regis Condos and Rooms




New Stores in New Center


The 6-year renovation of the Detroit Institute of Arts is nearing completion by the end of the year. This is the John R. (back) side.






The Farnsworth Entrance


Front Staircase


Willy's Overland Lofts - Cass Corridor








Across Willis from Willy's


Avalon Organic Bakery is moving to a larger location, but I forget where. I think it might actually be in the Studio One location(??)


David here insisted that he pose for a picture with his "Hungry" sign. We chatted for at least a 1/2 hour about the corridor, drugs, hopping a bus to Florida to be homeless, the kindness of people in the city, and the state shutdown on Monday.


Motor City Casino still showing no signs of the gaming space "retro" skin.


Lots of infrastructure improvements however.


The big dog, MGM Grand Detroit. $800,000,000 of new construction. Yes, it's a superblock (boo) but the overall product, for a casino is actually pretty nice. They did a super job on infrastructure and landscaping beautification on and around the property.
Grand Opening: This Monday, October 1 2007!






A landscaped median was installed on what was once a very bland and broken 3rd Street. The DTE Energy property on the opposite side is installing a city block-sized garden.


Bagley and 3rd showcases the corner focal point of the casino, which has a seasonal theme...here pumpkins and autumn leaves.








General K. and his pony gesture their approval.
















DTE Energy Garden


The corporate building is the big, black one.


Rosa Parks Transit Terminal is actually further along that I'd imagined.


Hotel Fort Shelby is anoise with lots of interior construction going on. It sounds like it's just about emptied out and ready for preservation. This is a really really great project for Detroit!


From Lafayette Blvd.






Westin Book Cadillac


From Washington Blvd.




The State Street frontage


The back addition from Capitol Park


From Campus Martius


The Griswold Capitol Park still isn't showing any signs of above-ground work. Soon, though...the garage needs to speed up to the opening of the Book Cadillac.

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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 5:34 PM
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Greektown Casino
This is the first section being built OVER west-bound Lafayette Avenue.




As seen from in front of Nikki's


The filler building on Monroe Street connecting the old schoolhouse and Trapper's Alley.


Old Ste. Mary's Parish in the foreground.


Facade installment on the first 3 levels of lobby.


St. Antoine Street




The hotel tower is slowly inching above the garage.


The newly renovated Sheraton Ponchetrain.


Looks the same above the first levels


Himelhoch's had a red carpet layed out on Washington Blvd, which made me wonder if there is some sort of investing going on there.


We're waaaaiting! Rock Financial/Quicken Loans possible future world headquarters site.


There's a locally-famous pizza parlor opening back up in the city, in the Kales Buidling, of which I forget its name.


The Women's Club Building has just recently completed a renovation in the Park Avenue District (behind the Fox Theatre).


The Ilitchs' are overhauling the Detroit Life Building also a valuable member of Park Avenue.


The irreplaceable Park Avenue.


Garden Lofts at Brush Park, open for a few months now.


This building in Brush Park has been (purposefully) gutted, and I've seen workers onsite, so hopefully it is the next one to go under the knife.


Brush Park North townhomes, John R. Street.




Another Brush Park prize.


Crystal Lofts renovation on Woodward Avenue, Brush Park. A gourmet grocery store will occupy the ground level!


Gotta love Detroiters and their perception of right-of-way.






One of my favorite smaller projects is this line of renovations along Charlotte Street. Structures like this, sadly don't exist in Detroit anymore.






From the back...




Wondering when she's going to get the attention she deserves. Maybe soon, since it's right across the street from the previous photos.


The Kahn Building sits right next to the Crystal Lofts both on Woodward Avenue.






More garden renovations taking place at the Whitney.


CASINOS AT NIGHT
MGM Grand




The lighted rectangle below the tiger icon is a falling water feature and tinted red.










Motor City Casino.
-These photos were taken from the Michigan bridge over the Lodge, so the quality is kinda low. I waited and waited in an empty lot on Trumbull near old Tiger Stadium for the test show to come back on, but it never did...so I can't wait to get better photos soon.


Most of the light show is relatively slow in changing colors, but there are also brief periods of animation which is really cool to see. I was going to take a video when I was waiting, so I'll try to do that next time too.




It's much better with the naked eye!


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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 7:13 PM
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Thanks Michi! Looks great!
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 7:26 PM
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Beautiful set, Michi. You always outdo yourself.

I was completely surprised at how fast the Kahn renovation was completed. I remember just a few months ago it looked like it was ready to be demolished, but now it looks great.

If you haven't already, you *need* to post these photos in the photo section. I'm sure everyone will enjoy seeing America's punching bag rise again.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 7:44 PM
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Great shots, Michi! Thanks for the Park Ave District pic's. You're making me homesick!

Another general question: It seems, 10 years ago, slow growth was blamed on Red Tape. What is the purveying thought on why projects are getting done now? Kilpatrick, Granholm, or just momentum overcoming the obstacles...or a combination thereof?

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Old Posted Sep 29, 2007, 7:59 PM
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Another great set, I really love that renovation on Charlotte.

As for what's goin on at Washington Blvd, Mark England has reopened in some the Himelhoch's space. I wonder if they'll be removing vintage signage since Himelhoch's went out of buisness decades ago.
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Great photos! Has any work been done on the G.A.R building yet? I noticed it in the background of one of the pictures and it looked the same.
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2007, 7:47 PM
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hudkina, I took over 200 photos that day and thought I would to a comprehensive post, but it would have taken me way too long to edit the photos and then upload them and post them. But, I will try to complete the rest of the edits to the better pictures and then include some of these in them. I was able to find some new perspectives.

newday, a lot of the momentum is due to a large amount of the metro area underserved by an urban marketplace. New generations and new understandings of the world are creating opportunities in central Detroit just like they have in all other major American cities in the past 20-30 years. Like the New-Tony-Detroit once told me, "if 1% of the entire Metro population moved downtown, there would be 50,000 new residents living there. Do you think there is 1% of 5 million people who would love to live in an urban place? I think since there is a massive exodus of people from Michigan moving to Chicago, Atlanta, New York, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Denver, etc...the possibilities are very good. We're just at a remarkable early stage in Detroit and the central core is not as accomodating yet to serve everybody. BUT there are people w/ different wants and desires and that is why more and more people are able to make the move (downtown). The more progress we make, the better. Mass transit will be our regional deal sealer especially since mass transit is an economic development generator itself.

Upon inspection, I didn't see any progress being made at the GAR Building.
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awesome pictures. Nice to see you snuck a few in of Casino Windsor as well!
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Wow, thanks for those construction pictures of Detroit, especially the MGM Grand Hotel. It looks beautiful. Please take pictures of the casino/hotel/restaurant interiors when it opens, thank you !!
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Thanks Michi, you are the one and only! I know that I can count on you. It is great to see and hear positive things about Detroit. Now let us hope for the Quicken Loans move to downtown and good news about the new Red Wings Arena! Is there any news about the groundbreaking of the @water lofts, the Watermark lofts and the FBI field office? Have you seen a rendering yet of the future GM riverfront tower? Greatings from Europe, Ross.
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nice pics Michi. I think the new MGM grand resort is such a plus for the city. the new Midwest entertainment hub.
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What a nightmare. Get with the program!!

P.S. Is LMich in jail or lawschool or something? Where has he gone
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here is a mall that may go up on the northern edge of Detroit. sorry about not getting a link.



John T. Greilick / The Detroit News

This vacant land on Eight Mile and Woodward in Detroit will be a vibrant shopping center in the coming years, officials say.
Detroit mall still on track

Developers: Deals under way for city's first shopping center since '90s

Nathan Hurst / The Detroit News

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The project at a glance

What: The Shoppes at Gateway Park, a 300,000-square-foot shopping center.

Where: Eight Mile and Woodward on the northern edge of Detroit, adjacent to the Michigan State Fairgrounds.

Timetable: Sometime in late spring of 2008; completion date uncertain

Developer: General Growth Properties of Chicago.

Retail plans: J.C. Penney is pegged as the anchor store, with about 100,000 square feet. Also planned are five additional "junior box" retailers, totaling another 100,000 square feet; five restaurants, totaling about 30,000 square feet; and up to 40 smaller shops.
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Developers will submit final site plans by the end of this year. Construction is slated to begin by mid- to late spring 2008.
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DETROIT -- An $80 million development that would bring a full-scale shopping center to the city will break ground later than originally expected but is still drawing strong support from local officials and interest from potential retailers, the project's developers said this week.

The Shoppes at Gateway Park, an open air mall, is slated to bring more than 330,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space to the intersection of Eight Mile and Woodward on the northern edge of Detroit, adjacent to the Michigan State Fairgrounds.

Construction of the project, announced in March, was originally set to begin by the end of this year and was to be completed by March 2009. The groundbreaking now is planned for mid- to late spring of next year, with the opening date of the center still uncertain.

The timetable was pushed back because the developer, General Growth Properties, based in Chicago, first wanted to secure enough tenant interest to ensure the project's success.

"Because we're attracting a number of big-name tenants, we're choosing to hold off on making any official announcement (of tenants) at this time," said Lyneir Richardson, vice president of urban retail development for General Growth Properties. "But I can say for certain that the interest is there, deals are happening and we expect to have work started on the center sometime in late spring of next year."

The shopping center plan calls for one anchor store, five smaller "junior box" retailers, up to five restaurants and up to 40 smaller shops, likely to be a mix of locally owned stores and national chains.

Investors in the project said in March that department store J.C. Penney had penned a letter of intent to serve as the anchor tenant for the project. Penney's officials confirmed that letter of intent was sent in March, but an official lease agreement has yet to be signed.

If Penney's does locate to the new mall, it would be Detroit's only department store. The last one, Crowley's in the New Center area, closed in the late 1990s.

Richardson confirmed that Penney officials were still on board, but he declined to name any other prospective mall tenants.

Officials confident in mall

Bernie Schrott of Bloomfield Hills, the largest of the center's minority investors, is confident the mall will be built, and that General Growth Properties will attract a healthy mix of retailers and stimulate other development in the region.

A real estate investment trust established in 1954, General Growth Properties is a heavyweight in the shopping center business. The company operates malls in 44 states. It has 12 shopping centers in Michigan, including Lakeside Mall in Sterling Heights and Southland Center in Taylor.

"I still think this is a great project for Detroit and it will be an instigator for even more growth in the community," said Schrott, who was a key player in getting the project off the ground. "This isn't a flash-in-the pan idea. It will happen and spur other great things to happen."

City officials remain confident in the project, as well, and are awaiting site development plans.

"As far as we know, the project is still a go, and we think it's a good thing for the city," said Matt Allen, spokesman for Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. "The mayor has been a champion of new retail, and this is exactly in line with that mission."

Penney's could be key player

The developer's road improvement and traffic abatement plan for the project has received the go-ahead from the state, according to Tami Salisbury, executive director of the Eight Mile Boulevard Association.

The developer is now drawing up final site plans for city approval, a process Salisbury expects to be finished by year's end.

"There's a lot of momentum on this project," Salisbury said. "The city wants this and people around here need this."

Salisbury said a study released Monday by Social Compact Inc. that estimated Detroit's population stood at nearly 62,000 people more than official Census estimates has boosted interest in the project.

"The study also showed that expendable income here is much higher than the Census estimated," Salisbury said. "That's important as we convince retailers that this is a viable place to be."

It's still not an easy sales job, retail analysts said. The location of The Shoppes at Gateway and the tough nature of doing business in Detroit are real hurdles.

Yet landing Penney's as the anchor store would go a long way toward ensuring the mall's development and success, one analyst said. "Penney's is trying to go after a higher line of customer," Birmingham retail consultant Ed Nakfoor said, "and they could provide this mall the traction they need to get going,"

You can reach Nathan Hurst at (313) 222-2293 or nhurst@detnews.com.

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This has been around for awhile. Is that a new article, or did you just dig that up somewhere?
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It was on DetNews.com. I'm happy that it seems to still be on track, but disappointed that it's right on the boarder. It looks like they are scared to go deeper into Detroit and actually court the citizens of the city as opposed to courting them and covering their ass by courting suburbanites. Meh, I'll take what we can get.
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