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Old Posted Aug 13, 2019, 8:11 PM
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Such a diverse skyline, love that pic. Chicago is unique with the spacing of it's large iconic towers. Each dominates its own section of The Loop and you can single out each one in all their glory.

NYC dominates with its silhouette where the shear mass of buildings is undeniable, but iconic towers can get lost in the crowd. Also not a huge fan of the needle towers of Billionaire's Row sprouting along the North end of the skyline.

Still hard to imagine anything surpassing NYC in our lifetimes.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2019, 8:12 PM
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I would like you to cite an instance where I claimed anyone on SSP has claimed NYC and Philly have remotely similar highrise counts.

You and I both know what you're doing.

In the Phoenix 101 thread, I repeatedly stated:

1. NYC and Philly are nothing alike from a development perspective
2. Philly is more like an East Coast version of Houston or Dallas from a development perspective than Philly is like NYC from a development perspective


The data and skyline photos referenced within this thread support my claim 100%. Philly's layout is not like NYC's, and much more closely resembles that of Houston or Dallas.
This is....not a smart take. Philadelphia is a city of dense row-houses, has a built environment totally dissimilar to that of Dallas or Houston. Look at the aerials of the three cities:

Philadelphia:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ph...!4d-75.1652215

Houston:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...!4d-95.3698028

Dallas:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Da...!4d-96.7969879


One could be totally unfamiliar with all three cities and immediately know that Philadelphia has a totally different development pattern than Dallas or Houston after poking around street view for 5 minutes.

If you simply mean that Philadelphia, Houston, and Dallas have a central core with a roughly similar number of highrises, ok, but what does that prove about anything? Philly is much older, denser, more transit oriented, has more narrow streets, etc. than the Texas cities. Philly is much more similar to NYC than either Dallas or Houston, and to argue otherwise is nonsensical.
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Miami has the potential to change rapidly, but sadly a lot of those projects are still in the proposal stage (the one's that can really alter the skyline). Its still kicking above its weight, and hopefully some good things will happen.

This list is from June 29th. Some newer proposals above 600 ft have been added.


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Old Posted Aug 13, 2019, 8:21 PM
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huh?



buildings over 1,000':

LA - 2
ATL - 1



buildings over 900':

LA - 2
ATL - 1



buildings over 800':

LA - 3
ATL - 3



buildings over 700':

LA - 9
ATL - 5



buildings over 600':

LA - 17
ATL - 11



buildings over 500':

LA - 31
ATL - 20
Thanks for correcting my exact statement, but my overall opinion still stands, even if I didn't express it as such.

Atlanta's skyline is roughly on par with LA's skyline, and even supercedes it in my opinion, even if LA may have several more buildings in most height categories.


This by no means discredits the beauty and greatness of LA's skyline in any way, But it is sad, whether because of earthquakes or whatever, when a smaller city looks more impressive under roughly the same level.

But other than skyline, LA still dominates in density, natural setting, culture ( especially west coast rap vs trap) and etc.


But I'm sticking by it. Atlanta's skyline looks better for the time being.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2019, 8:25 PM
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Miami has the potential to change rapidly, but sadly a lot of those projects are still in the proposal stage (the one's that can really alter the skyline). Its still kicking above its weight, and hopefully some good things will happen.

This list is from June 29th. Some newer proposals above 600 ft have been added.
Miami just needs at least two signature supertalls and it's a contender for 3rd after NYC and Chicago skyline wise in the US. It has the mass, now it needs what Atlanta, SF, LA, Seattle, and a few other cities already have.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2019, 8:44 PM
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^ That's why I titled it "Skylines that make you cry"

The act of crying is always something subjective, not objective.

So all of the comparing of who has the most 500+ footers isn't really relevant to the purpose of this thread. But carry on....
lol but, but, how will we define the tiers!?

Next thread should be an objective ranking of ice cream flavors. Look, we all know chocolate is number 1 and vanilla is number 2, but let's set up some completely arbitrary system of ranking the other flavors so we can pretend this entirely subjective exercise is data driven and objective.
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lol but, but, how will we define the tiers!?

Next thread should be an objective ranking of ice cream flavors. Look, we all know chocolate is number 1 and vanilla is number 2, but let's set up some completely arbitrary system of ranking the other flavors so we can pretend this entirely subjective exercise is data driven and objective.

no, no, NO!

vanilla is the clear #1!

it goes:

1 - Vanilla



(big gap)

2 - Chocolate








(humungous ginormous gap)

3 - Jacksonville
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One could be totally unfamiliar with all three cities and immediately know that Philadelphia has a totally different development pattern than Dallas or Houston after poking around street view for 5 minutes.

If you simply mean that Philadelphia, Houston, and Dallas have a central core with a roughly similar number of highrises, ok, but what does that prove about anything? Philly is much older, denser, more transit oriented, has more narrow streets, etc. than the Texas cities. Philly is much more similar to NYC than either Dallas or Houston, and to argue otherwise is nonsensical.
There's no point. He cannot be convinced that Philadelphia doesn't look like it developed in Texas during the 1950s.
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no, no, NO!

vanilla is the clear #1!

it goes:

1 - Vanilla



(big gap)

2 - Chocolate








(humungous ginormous gap)

3 - Jacksonville
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no, no, NO!

vanilla is the clear #1!

it goes:

1 - Vanilla



(big gap)

2 - Chocolate








(humungous ginormous gap)

3 - Jacksonville
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What the hell does Jacksonville-flavored ice cream even taste like? Bitterness and sadness? Blake Bortles*?


*I know he's no longer with the Jags.
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What the hell does Jacksonville-flavored ice cream even taste like??
i think it's a neopolitan style, but the 3 flavors are "teal", "disappointment", and "humidity".
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What the hell does Jacksonville-flavored ice cream even taste like? Bitterness and sadness? Blake Bortles*?


*I know he's no longer with the Jags.

it tastes like Toronto, only more Toronto-y.
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One could be totally unfamiliar with all three cities and immediately know that Philadelphia has a totally different development pattern than Dallas or Houston after poking around street view for 5 minutes.

If you simply mean that Philadelphia, Houston, and Dallas have a central core with a roughly similar number of highrises, ok, but what does that prove about anything? Philly is much older, denser, more transit oriented, has more narrow streets, etc. than the Texas cities. Philly is much more similar to NYC than either Dallas or Houston, and to argue otherwise is nonsensical.
Never having been to Philadelphia (I should go, I'm sure i would love it), I'm going to guess that it's MUCH more like Brooklyn than it is like Dallas or Houston.
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If just dealing with the U.S with Canada thrown in, I agree with everyone here placing NYC in a tier of it's own followed by Chicago and Toronto kind of occupying that second tier by themselves as a 2 and 2B..Pretty accurate IMO.

Now about San Fran?..I kind of feel that it occupies it's own tier on that next level down. Maybe shared with Houston??..It gets a little difficult to place them after that..I feel that Vanouver has a real dense and impressive skyline for it's size..Miami has a dense skyline as well..Then you get those eclectic skylines like Philadelphia and Montreal.
From a pure density standpoint, I just feel that San Fran can occupy,(shared with Houston?) it's own space, and maybe just down that list a bit Vancouver can as well.
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Sure hope no one I know would "cry" over something as asinine as a skyline.

Most disappointing U.S. skylines (no particular order):

Phoenix
San Jose
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
San Antonio
Milwaukee
Jacksonville
Oklahoma City ?????
Orlando
Cincinnati
Columbus
Memphis
Portland
Boston

Honorable Mention: New Orleans, Indianapolis
IDK, I think OKC looks nice for a 1.5M metro. Would be even better/taller if it were not in a river bed and/or if there were scenic natural features some other cities are blessed with. ...











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If the Devon Tower were half the height and divided into two towers then OKC would have a great skyline for a city of its size.
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If the Devon Tower were half the height and divided into two towers then OKC would have a great skyline for a city of its size.
I've thought the same thing.

Stands out so much that it looks a bit ridiculous.
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