Which cities are under rated in Europe ?

[Siberian]

Originally Posted by Eric2x

Oh yeah I know that city and its famous citizen Andrei Chikatilo too

Are you his friend or worshipper?

[Mikael]

Lviv
but first it should gain European standards, if Ukrainian authorities don't understand that and don't act to do so it'll never be worth coming for tourists with average demands which are connected with obligate conditions (current water for example). tourism is not a survival

[Accura]

Annecy

[shurik]

Originally Posted by bvpcvm

I've been to Nizhniy Novgorod. Unless it's changed dramatically, I'd say it's more or less correctly rated. It has some potential, but it's nowhere near most of the other cities mentioned here. I also spent about a week in Yekaterinburg, in the middle of winter. I liked the 20's architecture on Prospekt Glavniy/Lenina, and the setting around the lake is probably quite nice in summer, but other than that, unfortunately, I'd say it's unknown as a tourist destination for a reason. I also encountered more xenophobia in Yekaterinburg than anywhere else in Russia.

Based on what I've read, and pictures I've seen, none of the other cities you mention above are terribly underrated either. They were probably very nice at some point, but Soviet gradostroitel'stvo left them functional, though not especially charming.

I did quite enjoy Vologa and Yelets and some smaller towns, but given the red tape - and expense - you have to go through to get there, I'm not sure it's worth trying to visit unless you're already in Russia for other reasons. Just not very much bang for the buck.

Of course, this is just my opinion; no offense meant, these are just my impressions.

I am sorry you had bad experience in Yekaterinburg. the city is improving however, but of course it will take a while for it to shake off the Soviet past. if you don't mind me asking, can you tell more about the cases of xenophobia you had experienced there?

[Mazepa]

Ukrainian cities are better than most in other eastern European countries, but are rarely visited I'm not being biased, of course

But really, most people probably don't even have a general idea of what ukrainain cities look like.

Dnipro


Kyiv



A lot of pics here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...5&page=1&pp=20

Lviv

[Exarchus]

Astrakhan seems underrated. Just to find pictures of it is hard. That city sort of seem fascinating to me.

[Mazepa]

When I visited Romania (no offense) I was quite surprised as to how our (Ukrainian) cities were superior in architecture and infrastructure.

[AJW]

Berlin, an absolutely fantastic city, though a little short on scrapers.

[Maurycy]

Ukrainian cities are better than most in other eastern European countries, but are rarely visited I'm not being biased, of course

I've been to Lwów/Lviv/Lvov recently and i must say im in two minds about it. On the one hand the infrasructure is terrible and the poverty sticks out, tenements are neglected and so on( i do understand it, cause you-the Ukrainians were under Soviet occupation just like us/Polish/ for quite a long time, but in even worse situation)On the other hand Lviv has such a potencial that it can become soon one of the most often visited city in this part of Europe(together with Prague and Krakow).I do wish Ukraine all the best.Poland and Ukraine should be always together.

Of course the most underrated city is... TORUN/POLAND/

[j korzeniowski]

Originally Posted by tradlak

Krakow! Authentic historic city with great restaurants and amazing architecture dating back as far as 900 AD. Can't wait to go back.

i will second this. i may be biased as i am of polish heritage (living in chicago, imagine!), but i lived in europe for over 3.5 years, and i loved krakow. the dark vodka bars where you can sip a tetonka (zubrowka and apple juice), the largest medieval square in europe, great coffee shops, etc.

one of my favorite cities, if not my very favorite, is budapest. it just has "it". vienna, its imperial older brother, pales in comparison.

lastly, i would also add koeln.

[ul1]

Porto, Vienna, Genoa

[Allez]

Marseille-

[lexberg]

Tartu in Estonia

[niko333]

One of the most forgotten cities in central europe and even in Austria is definitely Graz, although it is an absolutely fascinating and beautiful city. The largest complete mediaeval historic city centre in whole europe, great imperial buildings from the 19th century and a nearly mediterranean charme.
But always forgotten between Vienna and Salzburg, althoug it is much more interesting and pretty than Salzburg, the Euro-Disneyland.

[look]

These come ty my mind: Naples (3 million people, and how rarely mentioned here), Vienna (once among top 5 capitals in Europe), Budapest, Saint Petersburg (see Vienna), generally all major italian cities (don't they build anything new in Rome?), Lyon, Marseille, Lodz, Ruhr area...

[DiggerD21]

Originally Posted by Mercutio

These cities are beautiful and historic but stagnant in terms of development - and this is a skyscraper forum after all.

AFAIK there are some skyscraper developments underway in Vienna, with some skyscrapers already standing. In terms of skyscrapers in the german speaking part of Europe I would put Vienna on 2nd or 3rd place behind Frankfurt and eventually Cologne (Köln).

[niko333]

Vienna is an absolutely booming City nowerdays. There are two ore three big Skyscraper-Clusters in the outer districts of the city. Nearly all three to four moths a new builing-complex gets brought on its way or gets finished. And in the near future there will come some 200+ towers on the Donauplatte which are already in planning.

[AUTO]

Warsaw

[dbee84]

Valencia

[athenian]

Stuttgart, Germany: awful setting among green hills, beautiful architecture similar to that in Prague, home town of two major car manufacturers
Nuremberg, Germany: historic center surrounded by a very large and deep moat, beautiful buildings
Lyon, France: Paris-style architecture but prices 2/3 of those in Paris, hills offering spectacular views accessible by funicular, cute historic district
Bern, Switzerland: perhaps the most beautiful capital in Europe. Historic center surrounded by a U-shaped gorge.
Graz, Austria: spectacular setting, a castle dominates the city on a hill