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^What? Uh, the Hearst Tower wasn't really all that original either. The whole cross-bracing-as-facade thing has been going on since, what, the HSBC Building in Hong Kong from the early 80's
What are you talking about? That's what I've been saying. Chicago's John Hancock Tower is the most famous of the cross braced towers, and that one is from the 60's.
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Well then we agree. That was just the first example off the top of my head.
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Any era in history has produced buildings of similar appearance and construction; the Beaux-Arts buildings of the City Beautiful Movement of the earlier part of the 20th Century certainly weren't "ripped off" from one another. Neither did the early Modernists rip off the structural exposures and other characteristics of the International Style from each other.
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Agreed. Although there are similarities, it's childish and immature to suggests that anything was "ripped off" here. So we'll leave it at that.
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When buildings are of a particular style, then by definition their designs will have been influenced by previous examples. Every gothic cathedral in Europe is just a "rip-off" if we say that each design must not look like an earlier one.
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I feel like this is actually a very unique design. Yes it has a resemblance to the Hearst Tower, but I never really looked at it that way. This tower is like a piece of modern art (not hero-worshipping....just roll with me for a sec..), in that it's like taking the traditional box office building, remolding it so it projects outward at certain points, draping a net over it, fusing the net to the building...and ta-da! Sounds like the process of reimagining a classical painting with a modern attitude. That's how it struck me.
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Watch the CNBC video clip here, they discuss it briefly...
http://worldproductcentre.com/home.html
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The description of the Center starts at about 3:10 for anyone wishing to cut right to the chase.
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The description of the Center starts at about 3:10 for anyone wishing to cut right to the chase.
What, you don't find CNBC exciting?....
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http://www.tradeshowweek.com/index.a...leid=CA6661244

Nashville Has Med Mart Dreams Too

By Michael Hart
06/01/2009


On the very day officials at Positively Cleveland and Merchandise Mart Properties Inc. thought they could breathe a sigh of relief, they had something else to worry about. On May 18, after four years of preparation, the Cleveland City Council gave its final approval for the Cleveland Medical Mart, which will include a 300,000 square foot convention center.

However, just hours before the council action came word that Dallas-based Market Center Management had its own plans for a medical mart, a 1.5 million square foot facility that would include meeting space for health care events, in Nashville, Tenn.

What's more, Market Center Management President and CEO Bill Winsor threw down the gauntlet, stating, “There is only room for one of these medical marts, and it's going to be ours.”


Winsor said his company is looking at three buildings in downtown Nashville as options for a medical mart that will include permanent and temporary space for medical equipment suppliers, as well as meeting space in which health care groups can conduct continuing medical education sessions.

He also said he expects to eventually take advantage of the proposed Music City Center, a 525,000 sq. ft. convention center scheduled for completion in 2013.

In the meantime, however, Winsor said the Nashville medical mart will be open and available for tenants in just more than a year, before the Cleveland Medical Mart.

“We're going to be using an existing structure, so we will be able to open in July 2010,” Winsor said. “Speed to market is important here.”

Not so fast, said Merchandise Mart Properties Inc. Senior Vice President Mark Falanga.

“We don't take this as a serious threat,” Falanga said of the Nashville project.

He added he was skeptical because the Market Center Management's proposal had neither a definite funding source nor a site.

“For a company that has never done anything like this before (and) has no site and no funding, we put it in the category of 'let's see what happens,'” Falanga said.

On the other hand, he added, MMPI had been preparing for a groundbreaking on the Cleveland project that could come in a matter of weeks.

“We started contemplating this in May 2005,” Falanga said. “Over those four years, we've heard about similar concepts in New York City; Orlando; Denver; Rochester, Minn.; and now Nashville. Not one has come to fruition.”

Falanga also pointed out that, with the Cleveland Medical Mart, the first stage of construction would include the renovation of the current Cleveland Convention Center's Public Auditorium into conference and tradeshow space, which can be done quite quickly.

“Our expectation is that, within a year, we'll be up and running,” Falanga said.

In other words, it should be ready at about the same time Winsor said the first phase of his Nashville project would be ready.

Winsor said he secured funding for the Nashville proposal from Market Center Management's parent company, Crow Holdings.

MMPI in Cleveland and Market Center Management in Nashville are not the only two real estate developers who have come up with the idea of a facility that would include exhibition and meeting space for health care groups and both permanent and temporary display space for medical device and, possibly, pharmaceutical makers.

Nearly a year ago, New York-based World Product Centre and Extell Development announced they planned to build what spokespeople said was a $1 billion, 60-story medical mart on West 33rd Street in New York, near the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center.

Last summer, World Product Centre Executive Vice President Michael Resnick said he had signed an agreement with the Greater New York Hospital Assn. to help in marketing the concept. Since then, World Product Centre officials have said only that plans were still in progress.

Meanwhile, Cleveland's project has been working its way through negotiations between local government officials and MMPI for several years. A sales tax to pay for the construction of what will likely be a $425 million project has been in place for nearly two years. Along with the new convention center, to be built on the site of the existing, but aging, Cleveland Convention Center, will be a four-story 100,000 sq. ft. medical mart with permanent showroom space.

The renovated Public Auditorium will have 30,000 sq. ft. of exhibit space for conferences and small tradeshows.

The decision by the Cleveland City Council to approve the sale of the property for the convention center and medical mart was the last hoop MMPI needed to jump through before beginning construction.

Winsor said not only can his company get the medical mart and at least as much exhibit and meeting space ready in Nashville as MMPI is talking about in Cleveland in place within a year, but also the mid-Tennessee location is preferable because of the health care infrastructure already in place.

The Nashville Health Care Council, a consortium of health care firms in the area (prominent among which is Vanderbilt University), has 350 members, Winsor said.

“It's become a significant part of their economy,” he added.

Dr. Harry R. Jacobson, Vanderbilt vice chancellor for health affairs, said, “The medical trade center concept has been discussed in several cities over the years, but is best suited for Nashville given the expansive health care institutions. The infrastructure and organizations already in place in this region will … support this project.”

Cleveland is home to the Cleveland Clinic, University Hospitals of Cleveland, Case Western Reserve University and their affiliated research facilities.
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The fact that other cities( i.e. Cleveland and Nashville) are vying for these Medical Mart centers should actually help this project move along. Tie this one up in inane bureaucracy and other cities with more streamline means for doing business will steal all the thunder. If Bloomberg is really concern about NYC business future this is one project that must move forward without delay.
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If Bloomberg is really concern about NYC business future this is one project that must move forward without delay.
This is one of those developments that doesn't need any further approval, but finanince is the issue now. The developer, Extell (which has many other projects in the works now) has stated that it would take about 16 to 18 months to get enough lease commitments to secure financing. So I really don't expect further movement on the tower itself until next year, although there is active progress on the subway station itself.
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Planned Manhattan Skyscraper to Help Fix Healthcare?



July 1, 2009
By David A. Graham


A group of real-estate developers see a cure for what ails companies in the far flung healthcare industry. It’s a planned 60-story skyscraper in Manhattan called the World Product Centre.

The office building, which will have 1.5 million square feet of space and cost upwards of $1 billion, is designed around a concept that is somewhat unusual: all of the buildings tenants will be healthcare suppliers or distributors. The idea is to create a centralized marketplace where companies can interact under one roof.

Although a few other themed and trade-fair type office buildings exist elsewhere, such as the Chicago Merchandise Mart, the concept is rare and hasn’t been applied to the medical industry in such a large way.

Maureen L. McAvey, executive vice president of the Urban Land Institute, a non-profit that studies real estate, said that individual doctors often find that sharing space can be efficient, “it’s not clear that this amount of square foot makes sense from a trade-and-vendor side,” she says. “I would think that in this marketplace the underwriting on any office space is difficult.”

Yet this week, the WPC’s developer announced that the building has signed 11 “licensees” including manufacturers Cardinal Health, Zimmer. Inc. and Encompass Group, LLC. Under the agreements, the licensees will lease space in the WPC product pavilion and gain rights to use offices and conference rooms in the building for additional fees.

The pavilion will function much like a healthcare trade show, except it will be a permanent exhibition space. The tower will also feature a consumer health pavilion and space for educational seminars and demonstrations.

WPC Chief Executive John Strong would not disclose what the licensees are paying to lease the space. He said the cost could not be compared with standard New York office rents because of the building’s unusual facilities. He admitted some potential licensees had been hesitant about committing to leases in New York right now, but said there hasn’t been any pushback on price.

Developers Extell, Israel Green and the Greater New York Hospital Association say expected healthcare reform and recent government demand for more transparency in the sector’s business dealings are drivers for demand.

Excavation on the World Product Centre site is scheduled for November, with construction finishing in 2013. WPC will license about one-third of the pavilion space and use the proceeds as collateral on a construction loan. “Marketing and development is–and will continue to be–financed by private equity,” says Michael Resnick, WPC’s executive vice president. “We are confident that we will have the financing in place to obtain a construction loan.”

Extell is also working on another dedicated, single-industry project, a $750 million tower in the Diamond District that will bring together gem dealers.
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I think the diamond pattern is going to become a very interesting motif for New York. After this and Foster's WTC2 is built (fingers crossed) there will be a few very high profile examples around the city. I can see the stylized illustrations now.
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^ This will be the most dominating structure in it's immediate area, and will become the icon of the west side - at least until something taller is built.

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...this week, the WPC’s developer announced that the building has signed 11 “licensees” including manufacturers Cardinal Health, Zimmer. Inc. and Encompass Group, LLC. Under the agreements, the licensees will lease space in the WPC product pavilion and gain rights to use offices and conference rooms in the building for additional fees.

Excavation on the World Product Centre site is scheduled for November, with construction finishing in 2013. WPC will license about one-third of the pavilion space and use the proceeds as collateral on a construction loan. “Marketing and development is–and will continue to be–financed by private equity,” says Michael Resnick, WPC’s executive vice president. “We are confident that we will have the financing in place to obtain a construction loan.”
While I don't expect the tower itself to start rising until next year, the progress is moving along pretty well.
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I think the diamond pattern is going to become a very interesting motiv for New York. After this and Foster's WTC2 is built (fingers crossed) there will be a few very high profile examples around the city. I can see the stylized illustrations now.
let's hope wtc2 is moving forward. the wpc is one of my favourite proposed supertalls, because of its
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More on the signings...
http://www.globest.com/news/1444_144.../179607-1.html

Medical Tower Lines Up First Tenants



By Paul Bubny
July 2, 2009

NEW YORK CITY-The developers of the forthcoming World Product Centre, a 60-story medical mart planned for Manhattan’s Far West Side, have lined up Cardinal Health and 10 other healthcare suppliers as their first "charter partners." As GlobeSt.com reported last November, the 1.5-million-square-foot WPC is intended as an international, multi-purpose trade center where healthcare providers and vendors can interact. It’s being developed by a partnership of the Greater New York Hospital Assoc. and Extell Development Corp.

Joining Cardinal, an $87-billion manufacturer and distributor of healthcare products, at WPC will be Zimmer, Inc., Encompass Group and private equity partnership Roundtable Healthcare Partners and the seven portfolio companies that comprise it. In a release, John Strong, president of WPC Marketing, says the new tenants are "at the forefront of the healthcare industry and we are looking forward to introducing more charter industry and education partners in the coming months."

In the planning stages for years, WPC will be built on the site of the former Copacabana nightclub at 555 W. 33rd St., near the Jacob J. Javits Convention Center. Michael Resnick, EVP of WPC, notes in a release that the New York metro area offers "many benefits" for international companies looking to create or expand their US presence.

"With 480 acute care facilities within 300 miles, half of all US teaching hospitals located in the region, and a high density of practicing physicians and other clinicians in this area, leveraging WPC for regional, and ultimately national, sales and marketing activities offers enormous opportunity," Resnick asserts. "Not to mention that half-a-billion business visitors and tourists are expected to visit New York City across the next decade."

A WPC spokesman declines to divulge the per-square-foot dollar amount tenants will pay for space at the WPC. He notes that the pricing structure is different from the standard format for establishing office rents, because each tenant will have access to common areas and amenities in addition to their exhibit space.

Last November, GNYHA president Lee Perlman told GlobeSt.com that while the complex will serve as a trade mart for medical service companies from around the world to showcase new products, "it will also be a place to demonstrate new services, a center where innovations are announced and, being that this is New York, a place where financial markets can intersect with some of the largest companies they serve." Perlman added that the WPC group intends to sign tenants to long-term leases, then go to prospective construction lenders with the message, "listen, we have 200 great companies, they’re all credit worthy and they are all going to pay rent."

Excavation on WPC is slated to begin this fall, with construction scheduled to start next year and be completed by late 2013, according to a release. Extell has another product-showcase project in the works: the 34-story International Gem Tower in Manhattan’s Diamond District.
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Wow! and I real thought this was 2-3 years away from even excavation. Again perhaps the competition from Cleveland and other cities is the driving motivation for getting this done quickly. Still rather mind-boggling given the economy.
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Wow! and I real thought this was 2-3 years away from even excavation. Again perhaps the competition from Cleveland and other cities is the driving motivation for getting this done quickly.
Not really. It's more the other way around. Remember, this is a development that was supposed to happen Downtown, before 9/11. The only reason it's moving as quickly is because the Hudson Yards sites were rezoned a few years ago. That means developers can build whenever they can. The biggest drive would be the progress being made on the 7 line extension, which is also sheduled to be completed in 2013. And Cleveland notices...


http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_...117087&catid=3

Medical Mart's rival New York project announces tenants

7/3/2009

CLEVELAND -- Here's some eyebrow-raising news from backers of a New York City project in a first-to-open race with Cleveland's Medical Mart/Convention Center -- it's got some tenants.

World Product Centre announced that it has signed deals with 11 medical manufacturing companies to display products.

So far, MMPI, the firm designing and operating Cleveland's Medical Mart, has not announced tenants.

Cardinal Health, one of the companies affiliated with the World Product Centre, is headquartered in Dublin, Ohio.


Cleveland, New York City and Nashville have announced projects all racing to get to the starting line first.

Trade show observers believe there's only room for one center exhibiting health care products to succeed.

The World Product Centre boasts of a Winter 2013 opening date.

There are sketches of a 60-story tower in midtown Manhattan. But so far, there's been no announcement about the project's financing.

Cleveland's $425 million Medical Mart/Convention Center will be paid for with sales tax dollars that are already being collected.

Earlier this week, at a City Club update on the project, MMPI's Chris Kennedy said, "We're always worried about our competition. We never understimate the underdog. They represent a competitive threat."

The World Product Centre website is global in its outreach with material presented in English, German, Japanese and Spanish.

Medical Mart backers claim the project here will have one more advantage -- many new or rebuilding hospitals are interested in how the Cleveland Clinic operates as a first-class patient care facility.

That means many will visit to witness Clinic operations firsthand. That concept would fit well with a Medical Mart product showcase nearby.

Both projects have websites touting themselves as a place for medical mart buyers and sellers to connect.

The sites are www.MedicalMart.com and www.WorldProductCentre.com

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New York's medical mart developer announces it has signed 11 tenants to its proposed $1 billion 60-story tower planned to open in 2013. A Nashville, Tenn., development official downplays the news.

Friday, July 03, 2009
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New York City's entry in the competitive three-city race to develop the nation's first medical mart announced Thursday that it plans to break ground in October and has signed license agreements with 11 tenants.

Prospective developer World Product Centre reported that companies signing license agreements for the Manhattan-based mart include Cardinal Health, the Dublin, Ohio-based supplier of health care products.


What that means for Cleveland's mart plans is unclear.

Cuyahoga County commissioners and their private-sector partner, MMPI of Chicago, propose to break ground next year on their own showcase for medical equipment and technology. But they have yet to announce any tenants and declined to comment Thursday on the progress in New York.

In the past, MMPI executives have said that being the first to introduce the untested medical mart concept is considered critical to their project's success.

Some industry officials have said the nation can support only one medical-equipment showplace.

John Strong, WPC president, said Thursday's announcement represents a "big step forward for the project and certainly validates the medical mart concept."

What sets his project apart from proposals in Cleveland and Nashville, Tenn., Strong said, is a major investment in education and training facilities at a proposed $1 billion, 60-story tower in Midtown Manhattan.

"It all depends on the type of venue and the amount of activity that can be generated at the buildings," he said. "Vendors aren't interested in simply showcasing products. They need more, and education and simulations will be big draws for us."


The advantages for Cuyahoga County's $425 million project include a source of financing - a quarter-cent increase in the county sales tax - and a site. The county has agreed to buy Cleveland's existing convention center for $20 million and is negotiating with nearby private land owners.

As envisioned, MMPI would convert the old convention center and adjoining Public Hall into a new convention facility and build a medical mart on land along St. Clair Avenue that is now occupied by The Sportsman restaurant, an office building and parking garage.

At a public forum Monday, Cleveland Clinic Chief Executive Toby Cosgrove hinted that some major manufacturers, including Philips and General Electric, are interested in locating permanent showrooms at the Cleveland mart.

The other tenants claimed by the New York developer include Zimmer Inc., Encompass Group LLC, and seven companies under the private equity partnership Roundtable Healthcare Partners: ACI Medical, Bioniche Pharma, Aspen Surgical, CorePharma, Avalign Technologies, Excelsior Medical, and Vesta.

Construction in Manhattan is expected to begin in 2010 and finish in late 2013,
according to Strong.

Nashville, the newest competitor in the medical mart contest, proposes to develop a $320 million facility as early as next year. The Nashville mart and convention center would be twice as large as Cleveland's facility.

Tenants have not been announced for the Nashville project, but a site could be announced in three weeks, said Bill Winsor, president and CEO of Dallas-based Market Center Management Co.

Winsor said he was unimpressed with the announcement out of New York because the project has nowhere to house its tenants.

"Having tenants signed up without a building doesn't really give you a lot," Winsor said.
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Tenants have not been announced for the Nashville project, but a site could be announced in three weeks, said Bill Winsor, president and CEO of Dallas-based Market Center Management Co.

Winsor said he was unimpressed with the announcement out of New York because the project has nowhere to house its tenants.

"Having tenants signed up without a building doesn't really give you a lot," Winsor said.

what the hell is he even talking about?

"we dont have tenants but we're still better!" :texans:
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