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Old Posted Dec 5, 2012, 3:19 AM
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The supposedly 85' last floor + three mechanical floors can easily translate to 150'.Doesn't seem far fetched in mind,but we'll just have to wait and see.
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That article was terribly written so I wouldn't put too much stock into it.
     
     
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If it became 2,000 feet I bet the whole forum would be full of drooling people.
It would the second structure in the Western world to be up to challenge the Asian giants.
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It would the second structure in the Western world to be up to challenge the Asian giants.
About time we get back into the race, I can't believe we let ourselves go that badly.

1,700 seems like a lot, but in this supertall boom we know stranger things have happened. Pretty much anything and everything is in the realm of possiblity. Hopefully the design is steller!
     
     
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Regardless of how accurate this article is, it is not a far stretch to see this building reach 1700 ft considering the height of the last floor and the 3 mechanical floors....and one might think a building with such hype will have some kind of crown that will stand out, so who knows.
     
     
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It would the second structure in the Western world to be up to challenge the Asian giants.
Which would be the first?
     
     
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Which would be the first?
I wonder if he means the ill-fated Chicago Spire ?
     
     
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I wonder if he means the ill-fated Chicago Spire ?
he might have meant the cn tower in toronto. minus 200 ft
     
     
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he might have meant the cn tower in toronto. minus 200 ft
I assume he means 1 WTC
     
     
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Looks like this thing is rolling and will hopefully move into the under construction section within the next few months.

I wonder when or if they'll start marketing this anytime soon.

On one hand, One 57th street has sold or put on contract about 30% of its units the last time i looked. Since this new building will be owned by the same developer it might be in there interest to keep this thing on down low until more of their current build is sold off.

However, with 432 Park Avenue going up it might be in their interests to steal a bit of its thunder and any potential buyers. With a bigger and better trophy located right over central park, I'm sure this building could cause a few buyers to second guess their multimillion dollar purchase.

The better this thing gets going thhe better.
     
     
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Last update with One57 sales was in May, with over 50% of the units sold for a total amount over $1B, all in only 6 months time. That doesn't include important information like what units sold, two very different stories if a majority of the trophy units of $30M and up are sold and thus make up a large chunk of that 50% number, or if a lot of those are still unsold. From the info we have, it seems like a lot of those have in fact been sold, especially considering the dollar figure of the units sold.

Either way, there is little denying the high end residential market is hot right now, and the sooner this project can be delivered the more likely people are to buy here as opposed to the other uber high end high rises planned in the area.
     
     
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I'll expect a boxy base, just due to Nordstrom. However, after than, the building could do something special, i.e, twist, curve? I really hope that is the case, NY could do with an iconic design for the West Side. I'd also be satisfied with a rounded or slanting shape. Just not another box with setbacks or a straight box, please.

If this is another Park Avenue, I'll lose it. We don't want a 1550 foot rectangle. However, deep down, I'm expecting it to be a box with setbacks.
     
     
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I'll expect a boxy base, just due to Nordstrom. However, after than, the building could do something special, i.e, twist, curve? I really hope that is the case, NY could do with an iconic design for the West Side. I'd also be satisfied with a rounded or slanting shape. Just not another box with setbacks or a straight box, please.

Due to the layout, I expect the building to be offset from the base (Nordstrom) with a tapering or setback form...

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Units stack up as follows:

Floors 15 - 20: 4

Floors 21 - 66: 3

Floors 69 - 83: 2
And the top floor lounge/deck will have a 100 hundred person capacity, which is pretty good room for a building like this.



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Go to work boys! I feel really good about this. Barnett said excavation probably wouldn't begin until sometime early next year. With signs being that they will begin a littlle bit earlier, and construction permits being filed, I feel that this could be under construction by summer.
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Whoa nelly, those towers are going to be pretty close. Guess it's not so bad to have a tall neighbor right next door though. One57 won't feel so alone!

This is a great way to revitalize old New York City neighborhoods.
     
     
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Is the corner building coming down (second to last pic)? I hope not!

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The only remaining building to be demolished is covered in the black netting.

It is insane how tall the building's base will be. The department store alone will rise 280 feet. With only seven (I think?) floors, that alone will be taller than the neighboring buildings.

I think that this tower's volume will be much more impressive than the overall FAR, if that makes sense. If there is indeed empty space between each of the building's sections (I believe it will be parceled out by use? we saw that component in the SHoP design), it may not be quite as thin as people anticipate, and the base will certainly be very substantial.

I also wonder whether the new Nordstrom will be a negative to Time Warner or not. I imagine it won't be, as Time Warner has so much variety in their retail, but they are quite close. Certainly long-term it will benefit both, as I think 225 W57th will be the catalyst for high-end retail spreading along 57th Street and eventually continuing from Park all the way to Broadway. It's only a thousand feet or so from Nordstrom to where the high-end shops terminate already (between 5th & 6th).
     
     
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The only remaining building to be demolished is covered in the black netting.

It is insane how tall the building's base will be. The department store alone will rise 280 feet. With only seven (I think?) floors, that alone will be taller than the neighboring buildings.

I think that this tower's volume will be much more impressive than the overall FAR, if that makes sense. If there is indeed empty space between each of the building's sections (I believe it will be parceled out by use? we saw that component in the SHoP design), it may not be quite as thin as people anticipate, and the base will certainly be very substantial.

I also wonder whether the new Nordstrom will be a negative to Time Warner or not. I imagine it won't be, as Time Warner has so much variety in their retail, but they are quite close. Certainly long-term it will benefit both, as I think 225 W57th will be the catalyst for high-end retail spreading along 57th Street and eventually continuing from Park all the way to Broadway. It's only a thousand feet or so from Nordstrom to where the high-end shops terminate already (between 5th & 6th).
The building on the corner needs to be cleaned and spruced up. It looks dowdy and dull and it is not going to contrast nicely with a gleaming new tower, but very well could detract from it.

I agree, that the Nordstrom sounds massive, but I think NYC can handle it. Perhaps other department stores have more to worry than TWC. TWC isn't exactly a mega-mall lol.
     
     
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