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Old Posted Sep 12, 2005, 4:52 PM
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the only thing they've done so far is remove some of the existing railroad tracks. there was no other site work going on, at least not as of last tuesday.
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I got an email today that construction would begin in October. Here's an updated rendering.

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Ooh. That looks a lot better than the last renderings we saw--I like the definition of the steel windowframes. Still, I can't help but think that this building would be greatly improved by removing the balconies (I know it won't happen). It's such a sculptural thing that all those superfluous notches destroy the flow.
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2005, 3:11 AM
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I like this building alot for what it'll do for the area but Im still hesitant about some of its design features. The setbacks, for me, arent in proportion to the rest of the building which causes it to look too bulky. They could be placed better that would give the building the appearance that its saoring above the street. But I do know that this buliding doesnt have a massive footprint so the rendering could just be playing tricks on the eye and how it may actually end up being a fairly slim building. Maybe if there were other Central Station buildings in the rendering I could understand its massing but now, as it is, Im so up in the air as to whether I truly like it or not. Its gonna be one of those buildings that youre just gonna have to wait and see the final product before any judgements are made.


Btw, I have heard rumblings about two 50, and two 30 story buildings being apart of this. Am I wrong? Whats the deal?
     
     
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^ From some angles it's quite slim, from others it's very bulky.

My other big problem with this building, actually, is the base. I think in general the streetscapes in the new parts of the South Loop leave a lot to be desired.
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crap, that new rendering sucks. why have they completely fucked up the massing at the top of the structure? that crown element needs to be pulled away from the last setbacks, it needs more vertical stretching. the way it is now it's all bunched up and awkward looking.

i had high hopes for this one, but now i'm afraid we're gonna end up with a very goofy looking structure in an extremely prominent place in our skyline. fuck.
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My only concern is that the building is too tall for its location. Just comparing it to the existing buildings. It just doesnt seem to flow.
     
     
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My only concern is that the building is too tall for its location. Just comparing it to the existing buildings. It just doesnt seem to flow.
I think that when the southern streetwall is completed, it will flow much smoother because you will have other tall buildings stretching along Roosevelt to complement it. As Steely said, I don't particulary care for the most recent design change for the tower. It's not as graceful as it once was. The developers got greedy, because they were selling so many units and instead of adding 3 or floors to acomodate the units, they raised the setback which threw off the balance that the tower once had.
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Its still going to have the most impact on the South Loop.
     
     
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Yikes-it certainly has changed, hasn't it? It looks just like any predictable residential high rise. I read somewhere in a book of someone's comments on the Gold Coast (it was an old book)
'the recent boxes that have been built along Lake Shore Drive have turned the Gold Coast into a pop-up Miami' I have a feeling this will be a massive eyesore on the South Loop.
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Btw, I have heard rumblings about two 50, and two 30 story buildings being apart of this. Am I wrong? Whats the deal?
The original plan was to have One Museum Park and three other pretty tall buildings right next to it to the west. The 4 buildings would be seating along Roosevelt Rd. with the last one being right at the corner of Roosevelt and South Michigan. The two buildings in the middle would be 53 stories high and the one at the opposite corner 60 something stories.
As far as I know, they were going to hire different architectural firms for each project, since they were looking for different styles and ideas...who knows how much has changed since then.

On a different note, I did not like the change they made to the setbacks on the rendering...it makes the building look a lot bulkier and less elegant. It looks too thick on the top!!! I wonder who came up with the idea???
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2005, 12:29 AM
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My only concern is that the building is too tall for its location. Just comparing it to the existing buildings. It just doesnt seem to flow.
I think that when the southern streetwall is completed, it will flow much smoother because you will have other tall buildings stretching along Roosevelt to complement it. As Steely said, I don't particulary care for the most recent design change for the tower. It's not as graceful as it once was. The developers got greedy, because they were selling so many units and instead of adding 3 or floors to acomodate the units, they raised the setback which threw off the balance that the tower once had.
Victor, since you have their email and kept in touch with them, you should ask them what was the reasoning for that change in the design...what the hell were they thinking? #%$#(&$!
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Incredible looking tower.
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I remain confused by what they are going for architecturally here.
the latest rendering looks even more like pieces of five buildings pasted together. Odd.
I reminds me of the New York New York casino or something.

But I do like the height down there, as far as the skyline is concerned.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2005, 3:11 AM
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I did a (literally) 30 second photoshop job...
I cut down the upper setbacks and made the tower taller to compensate for some of the loss of space...
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Man, I'm glad I am in a different field than architecture (although I envy your jobs!). To me, One Museum Park is exactly what Chicago has not been building recently.

My gosh, as if Waterview Tower, The Legacy, and Fordham Spire aren't sleek and feminine enough

But for me it's big, glassy, powerful, and really begins the process of framing in Grant Park, and I can't wait for it to get built.

I'm sick of being able to see stuff south of Roosevelt.

And the sky? Overrated. Shroud us in massive towers!
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Man, I'm glad I am in a different field than architecture (although I envy your jobs!). To me, One Museum Park is exactly what Chicago has not been building recently.

My gosh, as if Waterview Tower, The Legacy, and Fordham Spire aren't sleek and feminine enough
urb, you don't have to be an architect to clearly see that the redesign to the top of this tower is awful; it's all bunched up and tense. the new proportions just look really bad, and this is a building that is going to figure very prominently in our skyline for decades, if not centuries, so i'm disappointed that it looks like they're gonna build a clunker. look at chrysler guy's 30 second shop-job, the proportions there aren't perfect either (it's stretched too far), but can't you see how much better this building looks with some vertical stretching of the central elliptical form instead of being all bunched up like the new rendering shows?
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I'm not really a big fan of this building anyhow. . . however in the context of the greater Central Station area it might look alright. . . the tip doesn't do much for me either way since none of the renderings really impress me. . . I'm more interested in the materials they use for the façade. . . if you've gone by the area recently it's interesting to see how densely built up it got seemingly overnight. . . when all the new towers are built it will be quite a node. . . possibly the densest residential area in the city. . .
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2005, 3:37 PM
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^tom, obviously the facade teatment and the materials used weigh heavily in the merit of any building, but looking at this project from a strictly massing perspective, do you not agree that the top of this tower in the newest rendering looks tense and awkward?
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2005, 4:31 PM
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It's always kind of looked tense and awkward I guess. . . I think the pattern of balconies will add to the overall rhythm of the building which will redeem it in the context of the whole development. . . if this building were sitting out there on its own I would hope that it were somewhere far away from Chicago. . . like Atlanta perhaps, because it's not very inspiring. . . but I suppose if you've got a condo in this building you won't have to look at it. . . so it's got that going for it. . . which is nice. . .
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