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Waterfront developer tells Charlottetown to get with the times

NIGEL ARMSTRONG
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A proposed development on the Charlottetown waterfront. At lower left is the bottom of Prince Street and MacKinnon's Lobster on the Wharf. At top in gray with a rectangle white roof is a rendition of Founders Hall. It is 42 feet tall; the proposed development at centre would be 44 feet above ground.


A developer told citizens of Charlottetown to get with the times during a public meeting Wednesday.
“Things do change, things do not stay the way they are,” said Paul Madden of Newfoundland, owner of Patrick Street Holdings, which created Spa at he Monastery and Suites in St. John's, Nfld.
He wants to build a four-story, 85,000 square-foot, double building development at the foot of Prince Street in the now vacant lot between Founders Hall and the Charlottetown waterfront. Architect Bill Chandler presented the details, saying the building would sit on 30 to 40-foot-deep concrete pilings embedded in the bedrock below the reclaimed land that makes up that part of the waterfront.
The site is already pre-approved for development. Any developer can proceed without a public meeting to construct a three-story, 36,000 square foot, three-floor condominium development there. Because Madden’s proposal exceeds those pre-approved specifications, Charlottetown City Council must grant approval. It held a public meeting Wednesday to gather citizen opinion.
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The Scope - Nfld. arts weekly
The Georgian Room of the Charlottetown Hotel was packed as residents came to hear about Madden’s development.
Fred Hyndman was the first of the public to speak, saying he opposes the development because Charlottetown is the only official deep-water port on the Northumberland Strait. Hyndman said the land needs to keep its designation as industrial because it might be needed in the future for natural gas exploration, or a roll on-roll off shipping development, or a military need.
“That is the only site in the province, the only place in the Northumberland Strait that qualifies as a deep-water site,’ he said.
Condominiums can be built on Dorchester Street but a container ship cannot dock on Dorchester Street, said Hyndman.
Randy Campbell said that the land should remain public.
Campbell said that any potential tenants would likely settle in other parts of Charlottetown so denying the project would not turn them away.
“Please don’t sell our waterfront,” said Campbell to the council arrayed in a line of tables at the front of the room.
John MacIntyre said he lives on Hillsborough Street and he doesn’t see much public use of the land at this moment.
“To me, there is a lot that commends this project,” said MacIntyre.
Malcolm Lodge is opposed to the project, saying it will overwhelm Founders Hall, which carries millions of dollars of taxpayer investment.
Lodge had alternative suggestions for the site, like a potential home for a provincial museum, or a recreation park with climbing walls and diving training, delis and pubs.
Lodge said there is plenty of a vacant or derelict property inland.
“These should be in-filled before considering such development on the waterfront,” he said.
Alan Holman said that the design looked like a warehouse for people.
“What is the imperative to develop this land now, and if there is a good reason, get something better than warehouses,” said Holman.
Madden spoke at the end of the meeting, saying the city is not deciding between his plan versus a public park or an industrial pipe-yard, which he later called a pipe-dream.
“There is already a plan in place for development on this site,” said Madden. “Size is the topic here.”
He said he has been through the issues and problems of developing the waterfront during his time as a city councilor in Newfoundland, and as a developer there.
“The times they are a changing,” he said to the Charlottetown meeting. “Time will pass you by.
“You should be glad there are people willing to come here and spend this kind of money,” said Madden. “There has to be some development just like there has to be some parks.”
He said that Charlottetown needs more residents in the downtown if it wants to revitalize the area.

There seems to be some dissention in the ranks. I'm not surprised that there would be a significant anti-development lobby in Charlottetown. Sounds like Mr. Madden was a little condescending. The Islanders won't like that. He'll have to careful. Even if he is from Newfoundland, he's still a CFA.
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Waterfront developer tells Charlottetown to get with the times

There seems to be some dissention in the ranks. I'm not surprised that there would be a significant anti-development lobby in Charlottetown. Sounds like Mr. Madden was a little condescending. The Islanders won't like that. He'll have to careful. Even if he is from Newfoundland, he's still a CFA.
I realize that, being an island, PEI is more remote than the rest of the maritimes in general. It still surprises me that the Come from Away monicker is 1) still used on the island, and 2) not used in the rest of the maritimes. We're certainly on the geographic (and political) fringe of the country.
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Charlottetown to get $45M hotel
Published Friday November 28th, 2008
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CHARLOTTETOWN - Homburg Invest Inc. (TSX:HII) says it expects construction of a new hotel in downtown Charlottetown will begin in early 2009 as part of the company's $45-million redevelopment in P.E.I.'s capital.

The 10-storey, 82-room boutique hotel will be Phase 3 of the project which is expected to be completed in the next 24 to 30 months, the Halifax-based real-estate company said yesterday.

"We decided it was time to reinvest in the next 10 years," Richard Homburg, chairman and CEO of Homburg Invest Inc., told a news conference in Charlottetown.

Homburg said the tumult on global financial markets didn't stand in the way of making this project a reality.

"Yes, these are very tough economic times -- some call it a financial crisis," Homburg said. "Still, Homburg is in this for the long haul. We have a great deal of confidence in the future of Charlottetown and Prince Edward Island."

Financing for the project is already in place. The P.E.I. government provided a $30-million loan.

"You cannot sit still and go home," the CEO said. "The biggest fear is fear itself. You have to move ahead (when times are tough). We (Homburg) are financially strong."

The three-stage redevelopment of the Confederation Court Mall will also include a new eight-storey Class A commercial office building and refurbishment of the 30-year-old complex.
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Well I'm impressed with all of this PEI news all of a sudden! Who knows, maybe in 50 to 75 years Charlottetown will surprise everyone and suddenly become the dominant city of Canada's East Coast (I'm joking around, but I actually would love to see it happen, I really like Charlottetown).
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More items to place on the list of Charlottetown projects:

The provincial government just released their capital expenses projections for the next five years (totalling over $500M) with increased spending to serve as a stimulus during these hard economic times.

Amongst the big ticket items:

- Expansion and upgrades to the QE2 Hospital, cost $53 million
- Replacement of the Prince Edward Home (nursing home, the former Prince Edward Hospital on Brighton Road), cost $22 million
- An expansion of Ecole Francois Buote (the city's francophone school)
- a new "BioCommons Research Park", to be located adjacent to UPEI, cost $15 million.
- Upgrades to the Sleepy Hollow Jail (yes, that is indeed the name of the main provincial correctional facility).

I guess I'll have to update my previous post on developments in greater Charlottetown as it seems to becoming a pseudo compilation thread.
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UPDATED COMPILATION OF PROJECTS IN GREATER CHARLOTTETOWN

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Homburg plans to build:
(1) - A 10 storey hotel on the Queen St. side of Confederation Court Mall
(2) - An 8 storey office building at the corner of Fitzroy & University.
(3) - Renovate the existing 6 storey National Bank Tower on Kent St..
(4) - Renovate the facade of the former Holman's Building on Grafton St. (Very necessary)
(5) - Build a tunnel under Grafton St. to connect Confederation Court Mall directly to Confederation Centre.

Meanwhile, Paul Madden plans to build:
(6) - two four storey condos on the waterfront at the foot of Prince St. next to Founders Hall

Jacob Hiemstra plans to build:
(7) - two 8 storey condos on the Stratford side of the Hillsborough River next to the bridge.

(8) - The province plans to build a new centralized provincial museum somewhere in the city.

(9) - COWS is planning a new facility at the North River Causeway modelled after Ben & Jerry's headquarters in Vermont, which will also be a tourist attraction and will allow people to see the ice cream, cheese and T-shirts being made.

(10) - construction is ongoing at UPEI for new athletic facilities in preparation for the upcoming Canada Games.

Recently announced projects as part of a capital works economic stimulus package.
(11) - expansion and upgrades to the QE2 Hospital, cost $53 million
(12) - replacement of the Prince Edward Home (nursing home, the former Prince Edward Island Hospital on Brighton Road), cost $22 million
(13) - an expansion of Ecole Francois Buote (the city's francophone school)
(14) - a new "BioCommons Research Park", to be located adjacent to UPEI, cost $15 million.
(15) - Upgrades to the Sleepy Hollow Jail (yes, that is indeed the name of the main provincial correctional facility).


For a relatively small city this is a rather impressive list of projects. I don't live in Charlottetown anymore and rarely get over there so I don't claim this list to be comprehensive. Does anyone else know about any other projects to include?

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Summerside nears deal with Atlantic Lotto for grandstand
MIKE CARSON
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SUMMERSIDE — The city of Summerside is close to finalizing a deal with Atlantic Lotto to replace the deteriorating grandstand at Summerside Raceway.
Terry Murphy, chief administrative officer for the city, said the project has been moving ahead over the past few weeks.
“We’re at the final steps of reaching an agreement with Atlantic Lotto to build a new grandstand,” Murphy said Monday. “We’re working with the federal government to upgrade other facilities.”
The progress in the agreement comes as good news for the harness racing industry not only in Prince County, but for the Island and the Maritimes.
There had been fears the race track would be lost after the provincial government turned down a request for financial aid. The city was seeking an estimated $3 million to replace the grandstand and for other upgrades at the SRW.
Summerside Mayor Basil Stewart said the race track is an important cog in the municipality’s revenue as well as providing jobs and attracting tourists to the area. Stewart said the loss of the track would have shut down an industry that has been part of the social fabric of the area for more than a century.
Murphy said the city has been negotiating a lease agreement with Atlantic Lotto which would see it fund the new grandstand through rental fees.
Federal Fisheries Minister Gail Shea supported the renovations at the race track during her campaign in the riding of Egmont earlier this year. Both Shea and Prime Minister Stephen Harper made note of the conditions at the SRW and said they would look into it. Murphy said the city is looking to Ottawa to help with upgrades including replacing the paddock area, the stables and shipping barns.
The city’s image was also an issue. The area of the race track and Credit Union Place, the city’s $40-million wellness centre, will be used for the opening ceremonies of the 2009 Canada Games.
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This is a link to a video news conference re: the Homburg plans for downtown Charlottetown. Sorry for the poor audio quality but it does help to give an overall perspective for the project.

http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.c...cast&bcid=9897
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Charlottetown investigates roundabout for Mount Edward-Allen Street facelift
DAVE STEWART
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The Mount Edward Road-Allen Street intersection facelift is moving closer to reality and motorists could see a roundabout there this year.
Last year, city council approved $3 million under the Building in Canada federal infrastructure program, so the project will be cost-shared by the three levels of government, if and when it’s approved.
The City of Charlottetown just acquired all the necessary land in order to proceed with the project. Now it waits to see what happens with the federal government’s budget next Tuesday where Finance Minister Jim Flaherty is expected to announced a massive infrastructure stimulus package that will create jobs and projects this year. It is believed that stimulus package will include a facelift for Mount Edward Road and Allen Street.
The city needed a small piece of land from the federal government on the Experimental Farm property and from Island Chev Olds to expand the intersection. It now has both.
Depending on what’s in the stimulus package, work could begin this spring. Now the question is, what kind of work will it be?
The city has its engineers looking at a possible roundabout, which functions without signal lights.
“Right now we’re investigating the possibility of a roundabout (as long as it) eases traffic flow better than a signalized intersection would,’’ said Coun. Terry Bernard, chair of public works and property.
A roundabout would be the cheaper option, he said, but it doesn’t make sense to go that route if traffic from signalized intersections in the immediate area cause traffic to back up into the roundabout.
To put it in perspective, the city spent $220,000 to install traffic lights at Kensington Road and Woodward Drive.
The city has had its eye on the Allen and Mount Edward intersection for years. It has become quite the traffic headache for motorists. With no dedicated left-turning lane in three of the four feeders into the intersection, traffic tends to get extremely congested.
Frustrated motorists refuse to wait and end up using one of four side streets to access St. Peter’s Road — Harley, Gower, Confederation and Palmer’s Lane.
If the city chooses to go with a signalized intersection, the curb will have to be brought in about 9,100 square feet at Island Chev Olds and approximately 140 square feet at Tim Hortons.
Bernard said the right-turning merge lane on Allen Street would begin at Reliable Motors and push into the Island Chev Olds property
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Crews start work today on big capital project
DAVE STEWART
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Homburg’s major $45-million three-phase development project is officially a go.
Construction begins today on an eight-storey commercial office building on Fitzroy Street while work on the 10-storey hotel will begin in April.
Charlottetown City Council approved a height variance request Thursday from the required 39.4 feet to approximately 127 feet for a proposed hotel at 123-125 Grafton Street.
The hotel was supposed to front onto Queen Street, but Homburg ran into problems with the Charlottetown property owner who owns the TD Dominion Bank.
Homburg needed the approval of that property owner before it could build on the vacant lot next door. That property owner is the Nemir Tweel Corp Ltd. and Christopher Tweel.
The two parties were unable to reach an agreement and Homburg has since launched a lawsuit against the family.
Homburg then applied to the City of Charlottetown for a new variance on Grafton Street where the development doesn’t involve any of the commercial properties owned by the Tweels.
Homburg got the approval it needed on Thursday.
A spokesman with Homburg said initial work will involve removing the current façade on the front of the Holman’s building, completing some structural repairs to the original façade behind the current façade and then proceeding with demolition behind that.
The hotel is expected to open in July 2010.
Part of the Fitzroy Street office building project will involve closing off a portion of the street. Beginning today, traffic will not be permitted to turn onto Fitzroy Street from University Avenue. It’s being closed off so construction equipment, such as the crane, can be positioned on the street.
Homburg was using the vacant lot next to the old Playhouse but the Tweel company owns that. They cancelled Homburg’s lease last fall.
A city official said the Fitzroy entrance at University Avenue will be blocked off for the next six to eight weeks. After that it will be restricted to one lane for the duration of construction.
In the meantime, traffic which needs to access businesses on Fitzroy Street, between University Avenue and Queen Street, will be temporarily permitted to turn off Queen Street onto Fitzroy (normally the wrong way on the one-way street).
Also on Thursday, the city officially threw its support behind an underground connector/pedway between the Confederation Court Mall and the proposed hotel to Confederation Centre of the Arts.
The Fathers of Confederation Buildings Trust has applied for funding under the Build Canada Fund. The city supports the pedway project as long as it doesn’t interfere with applications the city has or will have under the same program.

The facts:
— Work begins today on the eight-storey office building on Fitzroy Street. To accommodate construction, traffic will not be able to access Fitzroy Street from University Avenue for the next six to eight weeks. A portion of Fitzroy Street, from east of Queen Street, will be two-way traffic during the work.
— Work begins on the proposed 10-storey Homburg hotel project in April. Initial work will involve structural changes to the façade of the former Holman’s building. The hotel is slated to open by July 2010.
— Approval has been granted for an underground pedway/connector between Confederation Centre of the Arts to Confederation Court Mall/hotel, pending funding under the Build Canada Fund.
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Nice to see Charlottetown growing

One question I have though is how tall is Char's tallest right now? I would Imagine a ten storey building would have a massive impact on the skyline but I don't know what the skyline looks like right now.
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One question I have though is how tall is Char's tallest right now? I would Imagine a ten storey building would have a massive impact on the skyline but I don't know what the skyline looks like right now.
The Delta Hotel on the waterfront is the tallest at 10 stories. There aren't any other buildings taller than 6-7 stories so yes, the addition of another 10 storey hotel and an 8 storey office building will be quite revolutionary for the city.
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Hi All

I'm new here, and I live in Charlottetown. I'm an avid construction buff and I have experience in architectural technology.
I have an update on the Fitzroy St. development, and I will post a picture once the windy weather subsides. They just started the building last Monday and are working on the 6th floor on one half of the building already. They must be working on one half at a time because they haven't a lot of room to work. They had to close the street so to bring the steel in and to run the crane.
I've been watching the development on web cam here: http://www.gov.pe.ca/islandcam/camera1.php3
It's not a frontal view and is taken from the Province House facing north up University Avenue. The construction can be seen and crane activity on the right hand side of the image, just right of the National Bank building. Not much to see but as the building works it way to full scale and the upper floors are added the frame will come into better view. I was watching it yesterday, and the crane was vigorously moving back and forth.
I will post some pictures like I said.
I'm glad to be on board, and I will provide updates as time goes on.

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Welcome Braymondg, we have been in need of a PEI correspondent for some time so your input will indeed be quite important on this forum.

I'm from PEI and have kind of been the caretaker of the PEI thread for the last several months but I live in Moncton and don't get back to Charlottetown very often (not since last August), so my input has only been gleaned from the online edition of the Guardian.

Your fresh input will be most welcome!!!

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Smile Fitzroy St., Charlottetown Office Building, Homburg Development



As promised, here is a photo of the progress on the 8 storey building on Fitzroy St. The foundation extends down to the end of the parkade. Work began last Monday so with good weather they will have the steel up in no time.

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You would think that for an 8 storey building that they would be using a tower crane.
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You would think that for an 8 storey building that they would be using a tower crane.
I've noticed they seldom use them in Newfoundland either (mostly mobile cranes are used), there might be an issue with getting them there.
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I've noticed they seldom use them in Newfoundland either (mostly mobile cranes are used), there might be an issue with getting them there.
My father in-law is a former tower crane operator, he was one of the operators for the bridge, and he told me that the problem in the Maritimes is that nobody is learning to run the tower cranes anymore and that they learn to operate a crane is a mobile ones instead. I doubt its a problem with getting the crane to the Island but more a problem of finding someone who can run it.
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No point for a tower crane on an eight storey steel building.You can have the frame up in two weeks.Its a much different story with concrete which would take months to put up eight floors.
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