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Old Posted Feb 5, 2013, 7:14 PM
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Given its proximity to West side Saint John the lack of services in GBW really isn't that shocking.
While I can see your point, not everyone in GB-W or those who live in the upper SJ/Nerepis River Valleys want to always have to travel to the West Side for services. Same as why West Siders don't always want to have to travel East for everything. The population of the town has also been steadily growing albeit not at the same pace as Rothesay and Quispam.

The GB-W catchment are is actually about 7 800 according to this site on the GB-W home page:

http://www.town.grandbay-westfield.nb.ca/profile/p2.htm

If you have been to any of the stores in the town recently, they are filled to capacity and are crowded. Home Hardware, Guardian Drugs, and the former Co-Op come to mind. The Timmy's is very small and the Sobey's is an embarrassment, easily showing its date.

Glad to hear Sobey's does have plans for a new store as well as Home Hardware and Timmy Ho's.

Taking into account the current population and the surrounding catchment, I think GB-W could easily support the following:

-A new, larger size grocery store (hopefully Sobey's will deliver on this)
-A second bank
-Another drug store or a newer expanded one (Shoppers?)
-A stand alone family type restaurant (ideally not fast food, but we'd take what we can get). Try to find a decent place to eat in this town...

It's unfortunate the town has those infrastructure limitations for Col. Nase as this seems to be hindering the growth. There has been a sense in the town for a while, there are certain groups in the town who are not so much pro GB-W development due to wanting to maintain the "small town atmosphere", so I'm wondering how much of that is playing a role here...
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2013, 7:33 PM
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I agree with you SoutPaw... for example Shediac, 6,800 and has a sobeys, canadian tire, co-op, no-frills ( no name brand store), Brand new big Shoppers, Jean coutu etc. So if a town of that size can have all that plus more, so can GB-W.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2013, 7:34 PM
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While I can see your point, not everyone in GB-W or those who live in the upper SJ/Nerepis River Valleys want to always have to travel to the West Side for services.
I guess that's one of the sacrifices one has to make when choosing to live outside of the city. Generally when I speak in regards to suburbs I get myself in trouble, so that's all on that front.

I would like to see there be a new Sobeys developed (preferably on Colonel Nase) but if there are development restrictions and NIMBYism at work then those factors are certainly going to be working against it. I guess in this instance there are those who wish to maintain the small town atmosphere and those who want to live there and have their services, too. At the end of the day it comes down to GBW determining what they want to be: small rural town or big city suburb.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2013, 6:30 PM
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I guess in this instance there are those who wish to maintain the small town atmosphere and those who want to live there and have their services, too. At the end of the day it comes down to GBW determining what they want to be: small rural town or big city suburb.
I think you've hit the nail on the head here...Every since the amalgamation though, there has been some tension as to what Grand Bay wants and the old Westfield part wants. Me for one would rather see GBW grow into a bigger suburb and my parents (who have lived there for 35 years now and pretty much have seen nothing change over that time) would like to see more growth. I can't count how many times I've heard them say they wish they could go out for supper just in town for something other than pizza.

As with most things, there are always going to be be NIMBY's but I think there should be more of a balance here to see the community grow.

In any case, it's great to see some discussion here on GBW....It tends to be the lesser thought of in comparison to its other suburban cousins
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In any case, it's great to see some discussion here on GBW....It tends to be the lesser thought of in comparison to its other suburban cousins
This is the power of having multiple threads per CMA, it allows for more focussed discussions and allows for input from all areas in the metropolitan region......
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Dunno if this has been mentioned somewhere else, but the Irving across from the airport will be expanding this spring/summer, and will become an NB Liquor location.
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Dunno if this has been mentioned somewhere else, but the Irving across from the airport will be expanding this spring/summer, and will become an NB Liquor location.
Where did you hear this??? With a brand new liquor store in Rothesay and NB liquor loosing money I'd be surprised if this takes shape. Not saying your wrong but Irving and liquor don't mix.
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Where did you hear this??? With a brand new liquor store in Rothesay and NB liquor loosing money I'd be surprised if this takes shape. Not saying your wrong but Irving and liquor don't mix.
NB Liquor does not lose money! No way Jose!
Yes the sales are down but they make money!
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Where did you hear this??? With a brand new liquor store in Rothesay and NB liquor loosing money I'd be surprised if this takes shape. Not saying your wrong but Irving and liquor don't mix.

I was in the store and they had the new floor plan posted right at the entrance. So I asked the owner about it, and they said renos will start in June. The bid was between them, the Ultramar and the Willow Grove Irving, apparently. I hope it happens! I drive past there almost daily, so it would be very convenient.. Maybe too convenient...
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NB Liquor does not lose money! No way Jose!
Yes the sales are down but they make money!
True.

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Not saying your wrong but Irving and liquor don't mix.
The Irving in Welsford has had an NB Liquor outlet in its store for a while now...
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The Irving in Sunny Corner outside of Miramichi has had an agency store for quite a while too.
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GB-Westfield slated for a new Sobeys and Home Hardware are very serious about a new store as well.

Tim Horton's is another who will be building a new stand alone store.
Just wondering where are you getting this info?

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and the former Co-Op come to mind.
What do you mean by "former" co-op?

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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 7:18 PM
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What do you mean by "former" co-op?

Thanks,
Sorry, I realised after I sent it that was an error on my part. What I should have said was that prior to the Co-Op being renovated, which is a HUGE improvement btw, the store was crowded and disorganized. This thereby put it in the same category as the current Home Hardware and Guardian Drugs.

Thanks for asking for the clarification...
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NB Liquor does not lose money! No way Jose!
Yes the sales are down but they make money!
Sorry didn't mean lose I meant sales being down.

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I was in the store and they had the new floor plan posted right at the entrance. So I asked the owner about it, and they said renos will start in June. The bid was between them, the Ultramar and the Willow Grove Irving, apparently. I hope it happens! I drive past there almost daily, so it would be very convenient.. Maybe too convenient..
Well I agree Dre that would be great!


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The Irving in Welsford has had an NB Liquor outlet in its store for a while now
I stand corrected thanks Southpaw .. Keep forgetting that went from a wilsons to an Irving but I remember it had lost it's outlet for a bit didn't it?
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Welsford had an Esso just down the street that had the agency store first. It burnt.
Sunny corner was the first Irving in history to have an agency store.

Can't tell my sources as I wouldn't have them for long.....
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Not saying your wrong but Irving and liquor don't mix.
There is already a standard for this in the Saint John region as there is an Irving/NBL outlet combo in Welsford.

We were speaking before about a new NBL outlet in Westfield but i'm not sure what the plans for that are.
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Sorry, I realised after I sent it that was an error on my part. What I should have said was that prior to the Co-Op being renovated, which is a HUGE improvement btw, the store was crowded and disorganized. This thereby put it in the same category as the current Home Hardware and Guardian Drugs.

Thanks for asking for the clarification...
No problem- and yes it is a HUGE improvement. I worked there 12 years ago and the renos were being talked about THEN (and many times since). It is now a VERY nice astore! Of course, right after the renos happened I moved to SJ so Lansdowne Sobeys it is. lol
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I noticed today that concrete was poured next to KFC. It looks to have a footprint the size of a small restaurant (Wendy's etc). Any ideas? Another parcell of land was sold recently on Millenium Dr. up near the old Lane furniture site. Hopefully this will be something more in line with what they had originally planned for the area.
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