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In the rendering the BoA Building is still U/C, so it's from 2008-2009, that's when the silver towers were half way done. But in this rendering the silver towers are a focal point.

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NOVEMBER 21, 2011

"Architect Returns to Drawing Board"

By ROBBIE WHELAN



Last spring, developer Related Cos. became disenchanted with the design of the first phase of Hudson Yards, the gargantuan project on top of a train storage yard along the Hudson River.

"I could tell that Stephen wasn't in love with it," recalls Jay Cross, who oversees the project for Related, referring to the developer's chairman, Stephen Ross. "He felt he wanted the buildings to be more dramatic. And we found that the marketplace was looking for bigger buildings."

That made for a busy summer for Related and its architect William Pedersen, one of the name partners at the firm Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates. The result, which was recently unveiled, is an improvement in terms of the interactions of the buildings if not in the aesthetics of the buildings themselves.

With 26 acres and more than 12 million square feet of potential developable space overtop Hudson Yards competes with the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site as New York's current, highest-profile development effort. Related has signed a deal with handbag-maker Coach Inc. to move its headquarters into 600,000 square feet in the south tower.


Kohn Pedersen Fox

A new rendering shows two jagged towers.
.Kohn Pedersen's original first-phase design called for three boxy steel office towers, the shortest one in the middle, along the east side of the site. Each building had the same square-jawed look of consternation: renderings showed stacks of long, plain blocks of steel and concrete arrayed to look like a cubist abstraction, or a screenshot from Tetris, the old block-stacking video-game. In between was to be four stories of retail space centered around a large glass box with a cyclone-shaped structure.

The design wasn't terrible. But it wasn't the sort of arresting, statement-making architecture that one would expect a next-big-thing type of project. KPF's early designs for the buildings were like Buckingham Palace bobbies: standing straight and erect, faces constant, but not saying much of anything at all.

The new plan for phase one, recently unveiled, describes a much different composition. The 30-story middle building is gone. New renderings show two jagged towers—the more northerly one 67 stories and sloping diagonally toward the city, the other, 51 stories and angled towards the Hudson—that slash through the skyline. Connecting the two buildings will be eight stories of retail and trading-floor space.



William Pedersen, the architect of the Hudson Yards project, in his studio at Kohn Pedersen Fox.
.The two office towers are disappointing as stand-alone buildings. Like most modern office towers they are brash and arrogant instead of being noble and poised. Their form is shard-like: all harsh angles with a jaggedness that evokes crystals or canyon rock formations.

But the new design helps make up for this in the way the office buildings interact. The mirror-image slopes of the two buildings, which would regard one another differently from nearly every angle of viewing, give viewers the sensation of two dancers in the midst of a paso doble. The southern building, which would house Coach, is, sensibly, the female of the pair —slightly shorter, with the atrium manifested as a slit in the dancer's ball gown, giving a glimpse of a flash of leg underneath.

Mr. Pedersen talks frequently of the "responsibility of tall buildings" to interact rationally with the urban context around them. The towers, through their interplay, emphasize the presence of a long, open, park space—set to run east-west from the towers to the river—that will go in between them.

"The buildings have to be able to, by their internal biology, create social connections," Mr. Pedersen says. "Too many buildings around the world have independent, sculptural shapes. The effect here is to connect the building directly to the city."

This intent is certainly palpable in the design. And if Related eventually ends up landing another signature tenant for the north tower, the plan will be realized, and the two buildings will go ahead and dance their way around the fabric of the city's newest cluster of statement-making skyscrapers.
     
     
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That picture of the model, which is the first building to rise, makes me like the building even more...


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This project is AMAZING!!!
     
     
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This is the 42nd Street entrance to the Hudson Boulevard that will be built and will terminate at the 33rd Street entrance to Related's Hudson Yards project.



http://archpaper.com/uploads/image/M...enburghsm1.jpg

Here's a segment of the new Boulevard



http://archpaper.com/uploads/Michael...enburghsm2.jpg


http://www.hydc.org/includes/site_im...8_site_big.jpg

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These would become a major icon for New York. They really shake up New York's geometry of right angles and almost seem to suggest movement. The design seems similar to The American Commerce Center design for Philadelphia, although more refined.

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I am certain that by 2020 the Hudson Yards would be a forest of supertall skyscrapers.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2011, 11:53 PM
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There's really only going to be one supertall planned for Hudson Yards.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2011, 1:25 AM
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The three office towers on Related's site will all be near or above 1,000 feet. However, many towers in the immediate vicinity of the Yards will exceed 1,000 feet. Non-New Yorkers (and many New Yorkers for that matter) are not differentiating between the precise boundaries of Related's project and the ones on adjacent sites.
     
     
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These would become a major icon for New York. They really shake up New York's geometry of right angles and almost seem to suggest movement. The design seems similar to The American Commerce Center design for Philadelphia, although more refined.
The design of the ACC was a travesty, and I'm very glad it wasn't built. That thing was beyond hideous; random pointy tumors do not make for good architecture.

Related's Hudson Yards will serve as an example for how mega projects should actually be built. The design is somewhat basic yet is still fantastic. No other tall buildings in New York are all that similar so they will certainly stand out, yet they're not "different" (aka absurd) enough to steal the spotlight, like the ACC would've been.

The analogy between the two projects is like comparing Princess Beatrice's toilet hat with Kate Middleton's entire ensemble at the royal wedding. One was chosen to upstage the other, and in a way it did, but not for the right reasons.
     
     
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The three office towers on Related's site will all be near or above 1,000 feet. However, many towers in the immediate vicinity of the Yards will exceed 1,000 feet. Non-New Yorkers (and many New Yorkers for that matter) are not differentiating between the precise boundaries of Related's project and the ones on adjacent sites.
What third office tower?
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Damn, those towers are super sexy, they remind me of the tower in iRobot, the headquarters of U.S. Robotics.
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Damn, those towers are super sexy, they remind me of the tower in iRobot, the headquarters of U.S. Robotics.
Theres a definite resemblance.


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Old Posted Nov 27, 2011, 3:20 AM
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This is the 42nd Street entrance to the Hudson Boulevard that will be built and will terminate at the 33rd Street entrance to Related's Hudson Yards project.



http://archpaper.com/uploads/image/M...enburghsm1.jpg

Here's a segment of the new Boulevard



http://archpaper.com/uploads/Michael...enburghsm2.jpg


http://www.hydc.org/includes/site_im...8_site_big.jpg
I hope they plan on lining that new boulevard with retail on both side of every block from 33rd to 39th Streets. If they dont it will likely be a pretty dead blvd, especially in the winter.
     
     
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Actually it makes me think of a London Shard and Hudson Yards combo.
     
     
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What third office tower?
The project calls for three office towers. The design of the first two have been released, and they will rise on the east side of the site. The third tower has not yet been designed. It will rise on the western portion of the yards along 33rd Street and will be roughly 2m sf. You can see the whole plan on the brochure which is downloadable from the Hudson Yard's link on Related's website.
     
     
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Now that Towers 2 and 3 at the WTC are apparently going to be on hold, I really hope Hudson Yards gets built. At least the two scissor towers.

This entire complex is the kind of thing that should have been built downtown.
     
     
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I'm curious as to what you mean by "this kind of complex is what should have been built downtown". Do you mean a combination of residential and commercial space?

Also it has been spoken for like a year that 2 and 3 WTC will stop at ground level or be a retail stump, this shouldn't be news to anyone...
     
     
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