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Manhattan's Office Market Faces Test with $350M Tower Plan
AEW Capital aims for $350M in bold bet on office market, selling 1920s building for potential 1M sq ft tower redevelopment.



By Tal Alexander
3/29/24


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AEW Capital Management, a subsidiary of the French investment manager Natixis, has made a bold move by putting up for sale the aging office building at 250 Park Avenue, with aspirations of fetching between $300 million to $350 million. This decision comes at a time when the future of office spaces, particularly in Manhattan, is a subject of intense debate.

The building, a relic of the 1920s and currently 76 percent occupied, is being marketed not for its historical value but for its potential to be demolished and replaced with a modern tower nearly 1 million square feet in size. This strategy, as highlighted by Newmark's marketing materials, is designed to capitalize on the Midtown East rezoning bonuses, positioning the property as a prime candidate for redevelopment in anticipation of the next market cycle.
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The decision by AEW Capital Management to sell 250 Park Avenue for redevelopment into a modern office tower is a gamble that reflects broader market dynamics. On one hand, it underscores a belief in the continued demand for high-quality office spaces in strategic locations. On the other, it comes at a time when the market is showing signs of softening, with declining rents and shorter lease terms indicating a shift in tenant preferences and priorities.

The juxtaposition of ambitious development projects with the reality of a market adjusting to post-pandemic norms paints a picture of a sector at a crossroads. Investors and developers are navigating a landscape where the traditional value propositions of office real estate are being reevaluated in light of evolving work habits and economic conditions.
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Potential 1M sq ft tower redevelopment? Vandy is 1.7M and is pretty much twice the footprint. Aka yikes this could be one tall tower which may well finally break the 1700ft barrier. Fingers crossed.
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^ Yeah, I believe it could end up taller than 270 Park. Not guaranteed to, but it is a possibility.
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Potential 1M sq ft tower redevelopment? Vandy is 1.7M and is pretty much twice the footprint. Aka yikes this could be one tall tower which may well finally break the 1700ft barrier. Fingers crossed.
I should also point out that zoningwise, Vanderbilt is only a 1.3-1.4 msf building. This site, with a physically smaller footprint, is actually of a slightly larger lot size. I’m not sure how that works, as far as zoning goes. But this site has a FAR of 27, and they can only build on the block portion of the lot (only about 25,000 sf).



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April 21, 2024


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At 250 Park Ave., on the market through Newmark, lease clauses allow tenants to be booted. Nevertheless, it may simply be torn down and redeveloped to match its neighboring and gigantic new JPMorgan Chase office building.

“It is clearly simpler and faster to rip down and build what you want,” Neveloff said.
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Interesting....


Well let's hope 350 Park at 1600ft has started a trend in the area. This building is a similar sized foot print to 350 Park? There are no height limits as such? Therefore I don't know why we ain't well past 1700ft already?

If that Oklahoma Tower at nearly 2000ft goes up the 1776ft record way gone. Midtown needs to get something taller to get that record back.
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Well let's hope 350 Park at 1600ft has started a trend in the area. This building is a similar sized foot print to 350 Park? There are no height limits as such? Therefore I don't know why we ain't well past 1700ft already?

If that Oklahoma Tower at nearly 2000ft goes up the 1776ft record way gone. Midtown needs to get something taller to get that record back.
What may or may not happen in OKC has no bearing on what happens here.

This site, at 25,000 sq ft, is less than half 350 Park's 350,000 sf. It's actually the same size as 343 Madison's 25,000 sf, but with about a third more development rights.
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What may or may not happen in OKC has no bearing on what happens here.

This site, at 25,000 sq ft, is less than half 350 Park's 350,000 sf. It's actually the same size as 343 Madison's 25,000 sf, but with about a third more development rights.
Ah right. thanks.
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Some good stuff in this interview…


https://commercialobserver.com/2024/...filling-space/

Colliers’ Michael Cohen On Filling All That Empty New York Office Space
It all starts with rezoning vast swaths of the city and letting private capital come in



BY DAVID M. LEVITT
APRIL 16, 2024


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The third thing to consider is teardowns, which may result in more desirable office buildings, or hotels or hospitality — the use is not preordained. We’ve emptied out a building in the Plaza District. SL Green (SLG) had 625 Madison, ours is a stone’s throw away at 655 Madison. We’re going to see those buildings get torn down and replaced probably by a mixture of retail, hospitality, and residential. And I don’t have to tell you that all three of those uses are very desirable in the Plaza District.

I have a theory that I haven’t heard anybody else share, which I will share with you. The city has, for a long time, had very little new development. In the real estate business, a modern building was one that was built in the 1980s or 1990s. There was very little in the wake of the 2001 meltdown, very little construction in the 21st century. And part of the problem was that in the most desirable neighborhoods along Park and Madison and so forth, if you tore down a building, you couldn’t even rebuild what you tore down. So intrepid developers like L&L Holding came up with workarounds.

So we had this inability to create new product due to this anachronistic zoning. L&L used these workarounds, but they were not as satisfying as tearing down an old building and replacing it with a new one. So Hudson Yards was born, I believe, off the overflow of tenants who could not find the large modern new buildings that they needed in Midtown.
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Simultaneous with Hudson Yards, the city did an experiment with rezoning to allow buildings as large as One Vanderbilt, which proved hugely popular.

The city rezoned the site and allowed SL Green to purchase air rights. In return, the city got transit improvements, and this became a template for the Midtown East rezoning. This resulted in a modern building right in the heart of Midtown.
And, in the wake of One Vanderbilt, the city changed the zoning, so the air rights to St. Patrick’s and Grand Central are fungible over a large swath of Midtown East.

The poster child for this, I always say, is 250 Park, which is in a fabulous location and is being offered for sale right now. It’s a building that has a demolition clause in it. I guarantee you, every buyer looking at that building is looking at it as a development site. It will eventually be torn down and replaced by a supertall.
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Great article and Q&A!

Really sucks that 250 Park will be torn down.. wish NY developers and LPC would respect NY's heritage a little more... at least integrate a new building into this beautiful old one.
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Wonder if JPMC can buy it and turn it into an extended stay hotel for visiting JPMC staff...A wish for such a cute building...
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Wonder if JPMC can buy it and turn it into an extended stay hotel for visiting JPMC staff...A wish for such a cute building...
Not likely.

If JPMC did buy it, it wouldn’t be for hotel space.


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It will eventually be torn down and replaced by a supertall.
A new tower is the most likely outcome for this site.
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I guess that was inevitable, but that had better be one gorgeous supertall tower to be worthy of the site and covering part of the Helmsley Building from that iconic Park Avenue view
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I guess that was inevitable, but that had better be one gorgeous supertall tower to be worthy of the site and covering part of the Helmsley Building from that iconic Park Avenue view
It's a pricey site. Whoever gets control of it is gonna want to get their money's worth and then some. This building, along with the Roosevelt Hotel, offers opportunity for "iconic" buildings (design wise). That doesn't guarantee we will get it.



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I think this article is a good example of why Midtown east needs more modern office space, or it will keep losing tenants to the west side - at least as long as the west side can continue producing new office towers...


https://www.ft.com/content/7fda88dc-...e-b60860272748

Cravath joins Midtown exodus with move to Manhattan’s Hudson Yards
Elite law firms have been relocating to the west side development as they seek to appeal to younger workers






Joe Miller
APRIL 28 2024


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Elite New York law firm Cravath will abandon its wood-panelled offices in Midtown Manhattan for the up-and-coming Hudson Yards development on the island’s west side on Monday, amid an exodus from the neighbourhood that has long been home to some of the city’s biggest legal names.

The 205-year-old firm’s move follows similar westward shifts from rivals including Cooley, Skadden Arps, and Debevoise & Plimpton, and is a further blow to the area that once formed Manhattan’s corporate core, which is struggling to fill empty skyscrapers.
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Cravath, one of the most prestigious names in American law, made the initial decision to leave Midtown, its home for 35 years, before Covid-19 broke out. Becoming an anchor tenant at Brookfield’s Two Manhattan West, a sleek, 58-floor glass skyscraper built on once-deserted land near New York’s Penn Station, was an opportunity to create a “21st century work environment”, Perkins said, meeting the demands of younger attorneys.

Departures from the so-called white-shoe firm were once a rarity, but Cravath has been facing stiff competition from high-paying, commercially-minded rivals, and has recently lost star performers to Kirkland & Ellis, Paul Weiss and Latham & Watkins, among others. Last year, Cravath overhauled its so-called “lockstep” pay model, creating a non-equity partnership tier that allows it to remunerate more junior staff as they come up.

Some senior partners, who commute from upstate New York to midtown Manhattan’s Grand Central Station, have baulked at their firms’ moves west. But younger lawyers used to working from home need incentives to come into the office, Perkins said, leading the firm to embrace a “modern, open, more collaborative office environment” in an energizing locale.

The new space, for which Cravath has signed a 20-year lease, includes an onsite café and “Barista Bar”, a “lactation suite” for mothers and common areas with panoramic views of Manhattan’s skyline and the Hudson River. It will allow the firm to pursue a “hands-on mentorship approach” and “re-establish that human connection” between partners and associates, Perkins said.
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Many white-shoe firms were initially based around Wall Street to facilitate clients in high finance. But they moved to Midtown in the 1980s, lured by the area’s cultural and economic revival. Despite its current woes, several big names have recently committed to the district, with Paul Weiss signing the largest commercial office lease in the country last year, taking more than 18 floors of a refurbished Avenue of the Americas skyscraper.

Cravath’s Perkins is not swayed by such counterweights. “We’re going to be operating in a corner of the city that’s very much new and vibrant,” he said. “While our old neighbourhood is, you know, the opposite.”

We currently do not have any leasable, major new office construction going on in Midtown East. Which is a problem. But developers will not build on spec, and financing is harder to get without pre-signed tenants.
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Cravath’s initial move to Worldwide Plaza was crazy. That area is not where you want to bring clients who pay $750/hr and more.

The craziest law firm move, however, was Sullivan & Cromwell’s buying that obsolete eyesore on Broad Street. They overpaid for a lousy building in a completely inconvenient and lousy location. John Foster Dulles must be rolling over in his grave.
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The craziest law firm move, however, was Sullivan & Cromwell’s buying that obsolete eyesore on Broad Street. They overpaid for a lousy building in a completely inconvenient and lousy location. John Foster Dulles must be rolling over in his grave.
Please explain cuz I'm not googling any of that.
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