NCC interprovincial transit plan MIA? - Page 6

Uhuniau · #**101** Posted **Oct 3, 2012, 4:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by S-Man

Uhuniau must be one of those ConBots who are paid to express opinions in news comment threads.

That's not even wrong...

waterloowarrior · #**102** Posted **Nov 2, 2012, 9:11 PM**

Strategy Report - Tuesday, October 02, 2012
A final draft of the Strategy report is currently being reviewed by the Study Partners, and is anticipated to be released in the Fall of 2012. The recommended solutions will take into account short, medium and long-term perspectives, up to the year 2031.

J.OT13 · #**103** Posted **Nov 3, 2012, 3:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Strategy Report - Tuesday, October 02, 2012
A final draft of the Strategy report is currently being reviewed by the Study Partners, and is anticipated to be released in the Fall of 2012. The recommended solutions will take into account short, medium and long-term perspectives, up to the year 2031.

So, December 20th?

Prediction;

Short term; keep it as it is
Medium term; O-Train across PoW
Long term; Tram loop

Result; kept as it is for another 30+ years

Another couple million dollars lost on a shelved study.

J.OT13 · #**104** Posted **Nov 3, 2012, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Uhuniau

From the National Constipation Commission's website:

The National Capital Commission (NCC) and its partners, the City of Ottawa and the Société de transport de l’Outaouais (STO) with participation by the Ville de Gatineau are looking for public input into ways of better integrating transit between the downtown cores of Ottawa and Gatineau.

The Strategy has an expected completion date of January 2010 and will deliver short, medium and long term solutions up to the year 2031. It has a budget of $750,000 and it will be shared equally by all three partners.

It's now April 2010.

Wow, little late!

rakerman · #**105** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 1:32 AM**

URL is http://www.interprovincial-transit-strategy.ca/

Capital Shaun · #**106** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 1:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Result; kept as it is for another 30+ years

Another couple million dollars lost on a shelved study.

Very likely no matter what they envision in the report.

Uhuniau · #**107** Posted **Nov 5, 2012, 3:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Strategy Report - Tuesday, October 02, 2012
A final draft of the Strategy report is currently being reviewed by the Study Partners, and is anticipated to be released in the Fall of 2012. The recommended solutions will take into account short, medium and long-term perspectives, up to the year 2031.

Why do the partners have to "review" it, anyway?

Just release the gdamn thing.

Your open and accountable governments at work.

J.OT13 · #**108** Posted **Nov 5, 2012, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Why do the partners have to "review" it, anyway?

Just release the gdamn thing.

Your open and accountable governments at work.

They have to "review" the report to ensure as much ambiguity as possible and openness to each his own interpretation so that they don’t have to commit to anything.

It's about choosing the right words to protect ones own a**.

Capital Shaun · #**109** Posted **Nov 5, 2012, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

They have to "review" the report to ensure as much ambiguity as possible and openness to each his own interpretation so that they don’t have to commit to anything.

It's about choosing the right words to protect ones own a**.

It probably has to go through the PMO's censors.

JM1 · #**110** Posted **Nov 28, 2012, 2:58 AM**

Three plans seem MIA:

1. The interprovincial transit study. Rumour was that it would be released in November and there is a note on the website from October saying that it was being "reviewed". But no sign of it yet. I called the NCC and it may get delayed into the new year.

2. The www.interprovincialcrossings.ca bridge study. It was to report by December on the preferred east-end bridge location. Given opposition to the bridge in the east and the lack of funds from the governments involved, I doubt the bridge will be built (which is a good thing). But nor will a tunnel or a Champagne artery area connection across the Prince of Wales right of way, which is bad (because that would solve the downtown truck problem).

3. Ottawa's 2012 revision of the Transportation Master Plan. It hasn't been distributed publicly yet, although in discussing the CFB Rockcliffe development at the CLC open house yesterday, it became evident that they have discussed the plan with the city and are seeking changes in order to be able to increase the density of that development (current road and transit infrastructure would be flooded by the 6,000 units that the Ottawa Master Plan has for the CFB lands).

So, I have to wonder if there isn't something going on behind the scenes whereby the timing of these three reports is being coordinated. Given the NCC's role in two of them, I am concerned about the outcome if all three are content-coordinated as well.

McC · #**111** Posted **Nov 28, 2012, 2:53 PM**

HA! "being coordinated"? dare to dream; I'd wager that there is a far more banal explanation for the delays.

J.OT13 · #**112** Posted **Nov 28, 2012, 4:04 PM**

Another plan (or two) bites the dust maybe. How many have we been thru in the last 20 years?

Uhuniau · #**113** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 3:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by McC

HA! "being coordinated"? dare to dream; I'd wager that there is a far more banal explanation for the delays.

Translation: "Being redacted".

lrt's friend · #**114** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 3:22 AM**

The report has to be conservatized. In other words, any meaningful recommendations have to be made sufficiently vague so that the federal government has no obligation to make a financial commitment.

Capital Shaun · #**115** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 3:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The report has to be conservatized. In other words, any meaningful recommendations have to be made sufficiently vague so that the federal government has no obligation to make a financial commitment.

And its release will be politically timed and accompanied with some meaningless photo-op.

Kitchissippi · #**116** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 3:41 AM**

What is odd is the NCC still has no current CEO, and that Marie Lemay left to become the associate federal deputy minister of infrastructure. Why would she leave the NCC in the middle before this much delayed report (and the one on the inter-provinical bridge) and actually get a portfolio that deals with these very things? Curious minds would like to know.

Uhuniau · #**117** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Capital Shaun

And its release will be politically timed and accompanied with some meaningless photo-op.

Watch for it to be data-dumped the week before or after New Year's, and never spoken of again.

JM1 · #**118** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

What is odd is the NCC still has no current CEO, and that Marie Lemay left to become the associate federal deputy minister of infrastructure. Why would she leave the NCC in the middle before this much delayed report (and the one on the inter-provinical bridge) and actually get a portfolio that deals with these very things? Curious minds would like to know.

I had the very same thought. She has certainly been no star at the NCC. So one wonders why she is getting Infrastructure. Maybe to drive through the bridge, but I doubt she is capable of doing so without making a mess.

Uhuniau · #**119** Posted **Dec 12, 2012, 4:56 AM**

So, apparently Fall 2012 really means January 2013 before this report is finally released and can start gathering dust in the Ottawa Room at the OPL. (It can't gather dust at the NCC library any more, for obvious reasons.)

waterloowarrior · #**120** Posted **Dec 12, 2012, 5:12 AM**

It's hard to believe that a one year study is three years late.