Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport - Page 203

wave46 · #**4041** Posted **Jul 20, 2017, 2:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ Given that they're in the process of procuring a 747 now, that basically buys the USAF a good, what, 30 years or so before having to worry about a replacement? By the time they need to replace the 747, twin-engines might be all that there is left...

It certainly looks that way. Then again, the US has been using the B-52 bomber since 1955 (!) with plans to (maybe) replace it by 2038, so they might stretch out the life of a 747-8 based Air Force One to 50 years or so. Especially since it doesn't see the use that a commercial airliner does.

CoryB · #**4042** Posted **Jul 20, 2017, 2:53 PM**

The current two plane Air Force One fleet has been in service approximately 30 years with the replacements being several years away from service.

One of the interesting speculations I saw in response to Trump's tweet about the cost is that perhaps a modified B21 could be used instead with a passenger area in place of the bomb bays. The thinking has some merit as it is otherwise a military speced plane which is where a lot of the 747-8 series costs come from. Your run of the mill 747-8 isn't hardened against EMP, equipped for government level secure communication and don't include anti-jamming and other countermeasures. The trade off being a B21 wouldn't be able to carry the same level of staff compliment as the 747 series meaning it would need to travel with a support craft. Now say you modify a twin engine jet into a support role included being a flying refueler for the B21 it could make sense. Put the most sensitive people in the B21 and the less sensitive (reporters, etc) in the 787.

MalcolmTucker · #**4043** Posted **Jul 20, 2017, 3:05 PM**

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Roger Strong · #**4044** Posted **Jul 20, 2017, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoryB

One of the interesting speculations I saw in response to Trump's tweet about the cost is that perhaps a modified B21 could be used instead with a passenger area in place of the bomb bays.

Keep in mind that the B-21 itself may only have two engines.

And it's built to much tighter tolerances, requires computers to control an inherently unstable design, and for stealth reasons has the engines buried inside the hull - making an engine failure much more catastrophic. It's not your choice for passenger safety.

jmt18325 · #**4045** Posted **Jul 25, 2017, 3:57 AM**

Westjet has cut frequencies to both Las Vegas and Orlando from Winnipeg.

pegcity · #**4046** Posted **Jul 25, 2017, 4:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

Westjet has cut frequencies to both Las Vegas and Orlando from Winnipeg.

Do you happen to know which days are being affected for Vegas?

jmt18325 · #**4047** Posted **Jul 25, 2017, 4:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by pegcity

Do you happen to know which days are being affected for Vegas?

There is now only a Sunday and Thursday flight on the schedule.

DavefromSt.Vital · #**4048** Posted **Jul 25, 2017, 4:32 AM**

The skywalk from the Four Points to what used to be the old terminal appeared to be gone earlier today.

The Unknown Poster · #**4049** Posted **Jul 25, 2017, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

Westjet has cut frequencies to both Las Vegas and Orlando from Winnipeg.

Hmmm interesting. I thought the vegas flights were always packed.

Rookie00 · #**4050** Posted **Jul 25, 2017, 6:58 PM**

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Hmmm interesting. I thought the vegas flights were always packed.

Could be temporary, Westjet just announced more frequencies from YYZ and YYC to a whole bunch of places so those routes listed were probably downsized to fill the expansion. On the other hand, Westjet is also starting off a low cost airline sometime soon so maybe those routes will be transferred over to the new airline with more frequencies.

CoryB · #**4051** Posted **Jul 26, 2017, 2:51 PM**

Flair Airlines today announced the NewLeaf banner will be retired. The plan is to continue operating similar services but now under the Flair Airlines name.

esquire · #**4052** Posted **Jul 26, 2017, 6:38 PM**

^ They really need to work out a deal so that they can paint this on all of their aircraft...

wave46 · #**4053** Posted **Jul 26, 2017, 8:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ They really need to work out a deal so that they can paint this on all of their aircraft...

To hell with stats, passenger loads and destinations - these are the real ideas that airlines should pay attention to.

jmt18325 · #**4054** Posted **Jul 27, 2017, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rookie00

Could be temporary, Westjet just announced more frequencies from YYZ and YYC to a whole bunch of places so those routes listed were probably downsized to fill the expansion.

That makes me doubt it's temporary. Westjet is becoming much more a hub and spoke carrier.

The Unknown Poster · #**4055** Posted **Jul 27, 2017, 4:46 PM**

I dont fly often but booked a trip to Cancun in December. Was happy to have a direct flight on Westjet. They just switched it to connecting in Toronto. boooooo

I assume I dont have to retrieve my checked bags, right? Would I even have to change planes or is it a stop to pick up TO passengers and continue on?

optimusREIM · #**4056** Posted **Jul 27, 2017, 5:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

I dont fly often but booked a trip to Cancun in December. Was happy to have a direct flight on Westjet. They just switched it to connecting in Toronto. boooooo

I assume I dont have to retrieve my checked bags, right? Would I even have to change planes or is it a stop to pick up TO passengers and continue on?

I fly often. Bags are usually checked through to your final destination unless they advise you otherwise. I would check to make sure.

And yeah, sounds like you're in for an actual plane change. Toronto rarely implies simply "picking up passengers".

esquire · #**4057** Posted **Jul 27, 2017, 6:21 PM**

^ TUP will have to retrieve bags in Toronto on the return leg in order to clear Canadian customs... but on the way down they'll be checked right through to Mexico.

optimusREIM · #**4058** Posted **Jul 27, 2017, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ TUP will have to retrieve bags in Toronto on the return leg in order to clear Canadian customs... but on the way down they'll be checked right through to Mexico.

You're right, first port of entry thing. Unless of course the flight goes straight to YWG then you'd clear customs here. Funny I should forget that, just came home from asia and had to go through the motions.

The Unknown Poster · #**4059** Posted **Jul 27, 2017, 8:30 PM**

Fortunately we're still flying direct on the return trip but Im not going to be surprised it it changed

Titan22 · #**4060** Posted **Jul 31, 2017, 11:54 PM**

Hello everyone! It also appears that westjet has canceled service from Winnipeg to Montreal according to their winter schedule! That is how pathetic they are. Still think air canada is bad?