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Originally Posted by airomero83
Considering what's being proposed at 3rd St and Pierce (assuming it actually happens), just thinking how that area would look like in the future and how extremely dense it will be. Do we know if The Met will be staying permanently? That development belongs somewhere in the 'burbs. Also, do we know what will be happening to the old Holiday Inn Hotel site on 5th n Fillmore?
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It feels like a joke that the City and ASU have essentially landlocked the area from expanding through more private development. I just can't even picture the other side of 4th Street looking like the Cancer Center's Pierce Street presence; worse still is that the original plans had parking structures along the Garfield edge. With the amount of land owned by both ASU and COP downtown, choosing to build out these parcels -- and, build them out in the next phase -- is so shortsighted. The majority of the parcels adjacent to the new residential is going to be for a Pharmaceutical School and Cancer Research + In-patient Care > all of which could have been built in the current footprint. Had the campus evolved to become more compatible with residential blocks moving north, it could have worked out: housing, health-related retail (Pharmacy, UrgentCare, Vitamin Shoppe) and services (LA Fitness, CORE, Yoga, Massage Envy), open space(the triangle across Skyline with the historic homes), schools for vocations like Dentistry and Veterinary Science, etc. The narrow scope and suburban office park design of the entire campus is a bummer.
A hotel for medical conferences and continuing education in place of the Holiday Inn would certainly be an upgrade, but nothing designed east of 4th Street makes me think it would be of any interest to a typical downtown patron. As of now, that parcel is not part of the PBC but if the hotel is closing, I cannot imagine it not being gobbled up. I think the area will look just fine with a mix of low, mid, and high-rise buildings; places like Capitol Hill, for example, are just as diverse. If the 4-5 story phase is replaced by 8-12 story midrises for the remaining lots near Hance and such, that would help aesthetically. I am more concerned about the intruding PBC, the viability of anything being developed or redeveloped on Fillmore west of Skyline, and whether there will ever be a chance to overhaul 1st Street heading toward the park as the massive garage and heinous tower are an awful gateway.
1st and Garfield -- I don't see that anyone answered this question; the plans are for a shipping container project filled with various retail and restaurants. I can't imagine it being more than 3-4 stories, but having 3/4 corners activated will be good business for Velo and hopefully spur more intense projects on lots like 2nd/Garfield, the Record Store lot, etc. I am also for any project that draws people south of Roosevelt, and I also like the idea of 1st Street being a hub of retail/restaurants to build off what currently exists.