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Dr. Taco · #**1001** Posted **Aug 27, 2008, 4:02 PM**

^ why does it looks so shitty? is it just temporary?

Dalton · #**1002** Posted **Aug 29, 2008, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by 10023

God, this looks pathetic.

Does Lagrange have no concept of appropriate scale at all?

I agree. The proportions of the mansard to the rest of the structure (which is two or three stories too short for such a roof) seem poorly considered. At least it seems that way at this point.

This building is starting to look like suburban shopping center quality faux architecture to me. But the devil will be in the details.

denizen467 · #**1003** Posted **Aug 30, 2008, 5:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by 10023

God, this looks pathetic.

Does Lagrange have no concept of appropriate scale at all?

May have been part of a tug of war between Lagrange and the developer - and since the style had been cartoonized so much by that point, this bit didn't seem like that much more of a loss.

jjk1103 · #**1004** Posted **Sep 2, 2008, 2:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by wrabbit

Yeah - the issue for some of us, TUP, isn't that LaGrange is using precast, it's
that he is using precast badly, in way that cheapens the endeavor. The surfaces are too uniform and too cartoonish for the historicism - maybe one notch below what you'd find at Disneyland.

In the end, this the architectural equivalent of muzak - processed, homogenized, effete.

At least he's passed on the fake cracks.

...actually, it could use some spray on grit and grime !

VivaLFuego · #**1005** Posted **Sep 3, 2008, 1:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Breezyfingers

Seriously?

I was on board and an Elysian Apologist (relatively) until... this.

aaron38 · #**1006** Posted **Sep 3, 2008, 3:09 AM**

Let's hope that roof isn't finished yet.
Looking north up State from Erie

Brian. · #**1007** Posted **Sep 3, 2008, 4:40 AM**

Relax about the roofing people, it's just the structural decking that you are looking at.

ardecila · #**1008** Posted **Sep 5, 2008, 9:25 AM**

Approaching up Rush

Rush/Walton corner turret

Heavy cornice

Another cornice section, ready to go up

Interesting sconce

Forms for dormer are in place

Forms for the next dormer

simcityaustin · #**1009** Posted **Sep 5, 2008, 7:09 PM**

This is a real cool building. I just love how it has a unique construction and look compared toe verything else currently going up. Quite elegant as well.

jjk1103 · #**1010** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 2:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by simcityaustin

This is a real cool building. I just love how it has a unique construction and look compared toe verything else currently going up. Quite elegant as well.

....this will either look like the Las Vegas Strip (or Disneyland) .....or it will look very good.......IMO I'd give it about an 80% chance of the former and 20% for the latter.......let's just hope.........

photoLith · #**1011** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 4:53 AM**

Well the windows they are installing in that lower roof dont look all that bad and maybe just maybe will make that terribly proportioned roof just a little bit better and more proportioned looking.

A side note, do the architects ever look at this site and see what people are saying about their towers while they are being built? Do they ever see what were saying and then they know if something looks terrible and then they maybe change their plans due to this site. Or possibly just look at it to see what people are saying about their buildings. I think it would be freakin awesome if they actually did that to see what we all think of their towers.

Tom Servo · #**1012** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 7:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by photolitherland

A side note, do the architects ever look at this site and see what people are saying about their towers while they are being built? Do they ever see what were saying and then they know if something looks terrible and then they maybe change their plans due to this site. Or possibly just look at it to see what people are saying about their buildings. I think it would be freakin awesome if they actually did that to see what we all think of their towers.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! bro... seriously? i very much doubt that.

Busy Bee · #**1013** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 3:11 PM**

^No way are they humble enough or inquisitive enough to look on this forum for tips or approval. Oh the humanity.

VivaLFuego · #**1014** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 3:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! bro... seriously? i very much doubt that.

Jeanne Gang does.

I highly doubt LaGrange does.

photoLith · #**1015** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 11:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! bro... seriously? i very much doubt that.

Why is that laughable? If I was an architect I would want to see what normal people were saying about my building and not just architectural critics.

wrab · #**1016** Posted **Sep 6, 2008, 11:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! bro... seriously? i very much doubt that.

I've heard that they often build them this way in Vegas - or, at least, that the developer will sometimes start construction while the plans are still being drawn up.

Ch.G, Ch.G · #**1017** Posted **Sep 7, 2008, 9:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Despite the glut of postmodern dreck, Chicago still has a large proportion of masonry-clad high-rises. There's no explanation but stupidity for someone to confuse this material with actual stone; that bizarre corner recess totally destroys the already poor illusion of authenticity.

Chicago3rd · #**1018** Posted **Sep 7, 2008, 12:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ch.G, Ch.G

Despite the glut of postmodern dreck, Chicago still has a large proportion of masonry-clad high-rises. There's no explanation but stupidity for someone to confuse this material with actual stone; that bizarre corner recess totally destroys the already poor illusion of authenticity.

Let's wait and see what will be going there. Bet you it will only be a memory when the production is done and it is covered up by something that has been planned there.

Am guess all the folks who hate the style of this building would like to see all the torrents on the Chicago river bulldozed and hung with glass?

Rizzo · #**1019** Posted **Sep 7, 2008, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ch.G, Ch.G

Despite the glut of postmodern dreck, Chicago still has a large proportion of masonry-clad high-rises. There's no explanation but stupidity for someone to confuse this material with actual stone; that bizarre corner recess totally destroys the already poor illusion of authenticity.

Completely agree with that.

Chicago 3rd, I'm not sure what you are getting at. Why would anyone even think of changing the bridge towers?
As for the gaps, those are to stay. The only thing that would ever fill that is some sort of caulking. A good architect trying to convey a real facade made of stone would have each unit "wrap around" the corner since stone cladding (even if it's a thin veneer) has some sort of thickness to it. The precast manufacturer figured they could minimize the appearance of joints by mitering the edges at the corners. Well....wrong...the exposure is clear as day, and it looks like crap IMO.

andydie · #**1020** Posted **Sep 7, 2008, 9:26 PM**

Hiya friends and skyscraperfans,

here I present you my latest video update for the ever growing Elysian:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=7k2NUtVMbsU

Music: Lexy & K-Paul feat. Das Bo - The Clap

Enjoy