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Old Posted Dec 12, 2012, 10:23 PM
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I doubt they woul dhave gone to the trouble of preserving all that if they didn't intend to use it. They didn't have to, it wasn't designated. Plus all the grease money in this project made sure it was in the budget.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2012, 3:33 AM
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Wow. I was really "gutted" when seeing the empty hole beside lister when it was reopened. So glad that they will be rebuilding the thompson facade.
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maybe someone can get Liuna to meet with David Blachard, so they can show him how to preserve heritage components of a building, while building new!
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2012, 3:27 PM
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Not-So-Subliminal

Lister expansion shows downtown’s on a roll
(Hamilton Spectator, Lee Prokaska, Dec 13, 2012)

Councillor Jason Farr got it right when he told The Spectator’s Andrew Dreschel that news of Lister, the sequel, is “very encouraging.”

In fact, it is excellent news that Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA) is moving forward with a residential/commercial development adjacent to the restored Lister building. While the design for this second phase is not complete, LIUNA plans a large residential tower right behind Lister and a prominent commercial presence right next door to it on James Street North. The commercial component will feature the heritage façade of the Thomas building, which LIUNA preserved.

LIUNA has a well-deserved reputation for getting things done. Its credibility has been enhanced by its track record of completing projects, including the Lister redevelopment and LIUNA Station. And LIUNA’s apparent determination to follow through on the second phase of its Lister project is a strong endorsement of our core as a worthwhile investment.

In terms of positive signs in the core, one of the big disappointments remains the lack of movement on rejuvenating the Royal Connaught Hotel, which is not among LIUNA’s projects. Hopes have been raised numerous times, but action has been sorely and noticeably absent. There is speculation that nothing will happen at the Connaught as long as the casino issue remains on the table, given that the grand old hotel is considered an ideal site for a casino complex. Regardless, in the positive development climate that has settled on the downtown core, the Connaught stands out like a sore thumb.

Critical mass in the core is being generated by the second Lister project, the $125-million condo and hotel plan in a block of land bounded by King, Main, Bay and Hess, the $80-million development of the McMaster health campus and the $20-million Acclamation Lofts on James Street North. Let’s hope that momentum pulls the Connaught along as well.
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maybe someone can get Liuna to meet with David Blachard, so they can show him how to preserve heritage components of a building, while building new!
don't worry, Blanchard is already following the LIUNA formula to the tee.
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After 1.5 years of soliciting Hamilton city staff, we received word today that we have not been chosen for the Lister Block tenancy. While deeply disappointed with the decision, we are excited about moving forward, finding a new location and setting up shop. Rest assured, Cafe Oranje will be brewing up fresh locally roasted coffee in no time at all...Just not at the Lister!
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2013, 3:19 PM
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Lister Block could get more tenants next month

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/stor...k-tenants.html

The Lister Block could have an additional ground floor tenant as early as next month if council approves a bid by a local café to inhabit one of the vacant spaces.

City staff has deemed a Hamilton coffee shop a good fit to rent out 852 square feet of the historic building, said Rom D'Angelo, Hamilton's manager of corporate buildings and technical services. Council will vote on the proposal on Feb. 6.

While D'Angelo wouldn't name the café, he said it was a company that already runs a Hamilton business, and owns businesses internationally as well.

“We're quite confident in their presence there based on their business plan and how they have set up in the other location,” he said.

Three businesses bid to rent out the medium-sized ground-floor space. Four have bid on the 3,485-square foot corner area with entrances off King William and James North. The city is negotiating with a prospective tenant for that area too, D'Angelo said.

There is also a small 455-square foot space that does not front the street. There is an interested party, but the city has not yet seen a business plan, he said.

Mezza Café was one of the bidders on the 852-square foot space that is subject to next month's council vote. Luis Meza and his family own the Ancaster business. Meza also owns a business in Venezuela.

Meza isn't sure whether he is the favoured tenant, he told CBC Hamilton on Wednesday. But he hopes he is.

'I see Hamilton as a city of potential'

“I see Hamilton as a city of potential,” said Meza, who opened his Ancaster shop in 2011. “Hamilton deserves good quality businesses and opportunities.

“Maybe coffee and art are the new steel in Hamilton.”

Located at 28-50 James St. N., the current Lister Block was built in 1923. It closed in 1995 and was seen as a symbol of downtown urban decay until the city renovated it. It reopened last year. City offices occupy five of the floors, and the Hamilton, Halton, Brant Regional Tourism Association rents out ground floor space.

A full Lister Block would mean a lot for the downtown, said David Adames, CEO of the Hamilton Chamber of Commerce.

“The redevelopment of the Lister Block sent a symbolic message to the business community,” he said. “Having private sector tenants in there will build confidence as well.”

Tenants overdue

Coun. Jason Farr of Ward 2 said many councillors are anxious to see the February report. He hopes there is no issue with moving the tenant into the building.

It's overdue, he said.

“Not only will council have the opportunity to hear about the café and what it will offer to the area, but also ask 'What the heck is taking so long?'” Farr said in an email. “I have never failed to pass along what has become a consistent inquiry from residents: 'why are there no shops in it yet?'”

The city has been looking for just the right tenant, D'Angelo said. It hired a real estate marketer to help.

It needed reliable and responsible businesses that would maintain the character of the building, he said. Each interested party has to submit a business plan.

The process, he said, has been “a little bit of a learning curve for us.”
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This report seeks council’s direction to permit Mezza Caffe Inc. to enter into a lease agreement for the space at 28 James Street North, Unit 104, in the Lister Block.

Mezza Caffe will offer coffee and other beverages, as well as, healthy light lunches including salads, soups and sandwiches in both a sit down and take out environment. They will also offer high end coffee machines and coffee accessories for sale. The cafe will seat 29 people.

http://www.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/...6__PW13008.pdf
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Mezza Caffe will offer coffee and other beverages, as well as, healthy light lunches including salads, soups and sandwiches in both a sit down and take out environment. They will also offer high end coffee machines and coffee accessories for sale. The cafe will seat 29 people.
Great! It's about time!

Now let's get on with it!
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Rent is only $1000/mo for the first year of the contract (topping out at $1500/mo. in year five. Not nearly as onerous as I'd thought. Guessing by the seating (29) this is the small space that's available at the Lister, not the bigger one. Not sure though...
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How about lunch at the Lister?
(Hamilton Spectator, Meredith MacLeod, Feb 23 2013)

City staff are negotiating with a restaurant operator to bring a fine-dining establishment to the Lister building.

The prospective tenant has been given until March 1 to respond to a counter-offer from the city in a potential deal for a 3,600-square-foot ground floor space with street access to James and King William streets.

“Our preferred choice is a fine-dining restaurant,” said Rom D'Angelo, director of facilities management and capital programs.

“We will evaluate the offer. It has to be financially beneficial to the city.”

He said two other bidders on the space dropped out when the city countered their initial offers. If a deal can't be struck with the remaining proponent, staff will evaluate potential uses, open the space to bids again and consider breaking the unit into smaller ones, said D'Angelo.

The final decision on signing deals with tenants remains with council.

The units have been available for rent since last April.

Luis Meza was thrilled to sign a five-year lease on an 850-square-foot space facing King William. His bid won over two others.

He plans to open a 29-seat European-style coffee house similar to his Mezza Caffe in Ancaster. He says the history of the building and the vibe of James Street made him anxious to land the unit.

According to a staff report to council, Meza will pay about $1,850 a month in rent and operating costs in the first year, climbing to about $2,350 in the fifth year.
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What a joke this building is.... take any tenant willing to set up shop. the City is turning down offers? If they didn't enter into a ridiculous deal to get the thing renovated and let private market principles decide the rent wouldn't have to be double the going rate at Jackson Sq.

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A new tenant...

28 Lister Inc. is a new company being formed for the purpose of establishing an old-fashioned fine dining restaurant that will complement the historical value of the Lister Block and represent a modernized 1920’s-1930’s New York/Chicago style chop/grill house.

The restaurant will offer a bar, a Chef’s table (private reserve area) and an outdoor patio on King William Street. The total seating area will be approximately 120. The menu will consist of moderately priced locally attained foods. The floor layout is subject to approval by the City.

The restaurant will also feature free Wi-Fi and will offer local artists in the community an opportunity to display ar t in the restaurant free of charge.

Mr. DesRoches was the owner of LaCosta Restaurant in Hamilton from 1993-2005 and has expanded his business to seven other locations throughout Southern Ontario. Mr. DesRoaches is an entrepreneur and Executive Chef by trade.

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That's going to be the corner of James and King Williams.
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That's going to be the corner of James and King William.
La Costa had enjoyed a similar exposure at King William and Hughson. Eight years later, one block west.
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Did they paint the facade purple?
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Did they paint the facade purple?
La Costa was more of an Amarone. The purple came about under Room 41.
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La Costa...there's a blast outta the recent past. Maybe the Rude Native will make a comeback.
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La Costa...there's a blast outta the recent past. Maybe the Rude Native will make a comeback.


Don't know the history of Rude Native in Hamilton, but we went to RN many times in Oakville (their first resto).
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The Rude Native was beside La Costa on King William. They closed up shop several years ago. I remember the Spec obsessing over this claiming that downtown truly was in its final death throes, etc., etc., etc.
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