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Old Posted Jun 27, 2019, 5:07 PM
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Literally every city used to be an ox path a well and a couple of farmhouses.
and that's a respectable point of origin as opposed to someone literally buying a cornfield and saying "here's where we'll build the 2M SF shopping mall".
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2019, 5:09 PM
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The West Coast is full of examples. Downtown Bellevue is the most notable in my area...horse farms and blackberry patches in 1950, sprawly suburban business crap in 1975, and increasingly a cohesive urban Downtown today.

Nobody said Evanston.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2019, 5:13 PM
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Nobody said Evanston.
evanston is literally how this whole tangent started.



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this whole tangent started when i said america's metro areas would be billions of times better today if we had spent the past 70 years building more evanstons instead of schaumburgs.

and i still 100% stand by that statement.

we. fucked. up.

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and that's a respectable point of origin as opposed to someone literally buying a cornfield and saying "here's where we'll build the 2M SF shopping mall".
Yeah for sure, nobody in history has ever arbitrarily founded cities before! This is truly unprecedented !

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Old Posted Jun 27, 2019, 5:27 PM
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^ it's not about whether cities we're founded arbitrarily or not, it's about whether they were built well or craptacularly.

it's no coincidence that once absolutely everything in urban planning and design became car! CAR! CAR! that our built environments started monumentally sucking.

we fucked up.
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You mean you didn't know that Rome was founded on the ruins of a 2 million sqft greenfield mega mall?
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2019, 5:32 PM
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You mean you didn't know that Rome was founded on the ruins of a 2 million sqft greenfield mega mall?
no, i knew that. in fact i was there on its last day as an operating mall. togas were going for like 75% off!!!
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