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Old Posted Jun 5, 2019, 9:01 PM
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I don't want to see Michael Reese squandered by a enormous casino. I'd wouldn't mind seeing it on the south lakefront. At SouthWorks between South Shore and South Chicago would pump money into both of those struggling communities and could unlock a lot of investment.
What people (surprisingly) aren't talking about is the fact that Southworks could potentially have CTA access. If the Metra Electric were converted to the Gray Line (as would make sense), it would easily be under 1/2 mile from the edge of the site. Additionally, the already vacant land exists to terminate the line directly at the site

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Old Posted Jun 5, 2019, 9:40 PM
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I don't want to see Michael Reese squandered by a enormous casino.
^ What's there to squander?

Nobody's building diddly shit there, ever, for another 50 years.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2019, 10:14 PM
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50 years? Sure thing fortune teller.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2019, 10:35 PM
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50 years? Sure thing fortune teller.
I will refine that to 25 years.

I will happily wager money on it. Not happening
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I will refine that to 25 years.

I will happily wager money on it. Not happening
Nah, do 50... that thing is gonna be an empty lot forever. More likely to be swooped into some mandate for a Lincoln Park-esque park area(in 30+ years) than be actually developed on. There will never be enough demand there. Only way there will be is if One Central, the 78, and the South Loop in general get built out to their full potential, and that will take 50 years minimum
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The 1 story warehouse/industrial building on Carpenter across from Google got a permit to get demolished. In its place is supposed to go an 8 story office building with 2 floors of underground parking. Permit says 8 stories at least, though it might be 7 in reality. New construction permit still pending but looks like it could be issued anytime.

http://www.walshgroup.com/news/2019/...ebuilding.html



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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 1:37 AM
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Apartment rents in Bronzeville and Rogers Park rapidly on the rise, especially near L stops:

https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2019...rdable-status/
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 3:28 AM
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Apartment rents in Bronzeville and Rogers Park rapidly on the rise, especially near L stops:

https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2019...rdable-status/
I've been thinking a little about this. So obviously in some areas things are getting less and less affordable and that is a common problem in so many cities especially in this country right now. The hot areas and some of the solid but leaning towards more upper middle class/upper class areas might have the problem, but the city contrary to popular belief doesn't. There are still many areas with not ridiculous rents - however some of those areas are ones you may not want to go into (i.e. some are dangerous). Some aren't though. I'm curious what impact this will have on other areas. In no way I'm saying that anybody should be priced out, but that's currently the reality. Places like McKinley Park and Brighton Park for example on the Orange Line are still affordable. Will some people getting priced out currently who are looking to move soon look to some of these seemingly overlooked areas?
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I've been thinking a little about this. So obviously in some areas things are getting less and less affordable and that is a common problem in so many cities especially in this country right now. The hot areas and some of the solid but leaning towards more upper middle class/upper class areas might have the problem, but the city contrary to popular belief doesn't. There are still many areas with not ridiculous rents - however some of those areas are ones you may not want to go into (i.e. some are dangerous). Some aren't though. I'm curious what impact this will have on other areas. In no way I'm saying that anybody should be priced out, but that's currently the reality. Places like McKinley Park and Brighton Park for example on the Orange Line are still affordable. Will some people getting priced out currently who are looking to move soon look to some of these seemingly overlooked areas?
Might want to consider adding the areas around Pulaski/Belmont/Diversey to your potential areas. I guess Belmont Gardens? West Avondale? Not entirely sure, but definitely NOT Logan Square. At any rate, it's an area that I am now, as of Memorial Day, living in.

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The 1 story warehouse/industrial building on Carpenter across from Google got a permit to get demolished. In its place is supposed to go an 8 story office building with 2 floors of underground parking. Permit says 8 stories at least, though it might be 7 in reality. New construction permit still pending but looks like it could be issued anytime.

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Instead of demolishing the Crawford Power Station why not make this the next Casino location - incredible architecture and great central location.

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Instead of demolishing the Crawford Power Station why not make this the next Casino location - incredible architecture and great central location.

Excellent idea.
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Too much of Crawford is already in the landfill, I fear. That's why I suggested Fisk or the Union Station steam plant.

I feel like it needs to be where downtown tourists can easily swing by, in a location easily reachable by employees living in poor parts of the South and West Sides. None of the old coalburning sites meet those criteria. A former Robert Taylor Homes site on South State might, as might something next to United Center.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 3:13 PM
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Instead of demolishing the Crawford Power Station why not make this the next Casino location - incredible architecture and great central location.

this still makes me so angry. this building has so much more potential than being reduced to rubble for another crappy warehouse distribution site. could have been a high school, could have been a huge gym, could have been offices, could have been anything other than another staging area for fucking semi trucks. this sort of development does nothing to rehabilitate that stretch of Pulaski, which is currently nothing than a complete auto sewer, and this seals its fate for the next 50 years.
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The 1 story warehouse/industrial building on Carpenter across from Google got a permit to get demolished. In its place is supposed to go an 8 story office building with 2 floors of underground parking. Permit says 8 stories at least, though it might be 7 in reality. New construction permit still pending but looks like it could be issued anytime.

http://www.walshgroup.com/news/2019/...ebuilding.html

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318 N Carpenter
I pulled this screenshot from the video to show the building in better context. I like this, good integration into the neighborhood, fits really well. It looks like all parking might be accessed through the alley because I don't see a curb cut.
Should make all the midrise fans happy.

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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 5:12 PM
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^ If I'm correct, isn't that the building in which Google is taking an additional 100,000 sf?
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 5:15 PM
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no thats a block to the south on Lake (already wrapped up). admittedly these are all starting to look alike.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 5:25 PM
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Too much of Crawford is already in the landfill, I fear. That's why I suggested Fisk or the Union Station steam plant.

I feel like it needs to be where downtown tourists can easily swing by, in a location easily reachable by employees living in poor parts of the South and West Sides. None of the old coalburning sites meet those criteria. A former Robert Taylor Homes site on South State might, as might something next to United Center.
My mind really didn't go to Sox Park or the UC at first but the more and more they seem like potentially good sites. Especially with the UC you have a captive winter audience, many of them affluent and suburbanites, who will there be in the area for nearly x100 times to year in a stadium that is often sold out. Many who have been overserved or want to do something pre-post game would head to a casino across the street.
Give the nature of an inside appeal in the winter and near sold-out stadiums, I think the UC makes bit better option compared to say Sox Park. Hopefully, there could be some spill over into Garfield Park for the better.

Another aspect is that I think we will likely get more than one location within 5 years or so anyway if this casino is any kind of cash cow. Our politicians are addicted to revenue and all streams from it.
Event though Pritzker called Chicago a "business city" so is every bit of London and it has 24 casinos. I'd expect there to eventually be a downtown-esque casino and a perhaps one in the vicitnity of McCormick Place as well.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 6:11 PM
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I will refine that to 25 years.

I will happily wager money on it. Not happening
The Michael Reese site is an Opportunity Zone. Something is going to happen there, soon.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/opportu...sked-questions
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2019, 6:22 PM
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The Michael Reese site is an Opportunity Zone. Something is going to happen there, soon.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/opportu...sked-questions
Also the city is paying a $100 Million mortgage on the site... kill two birds anyone?
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