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ethereal_reality · #**45001** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 4:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by jumbo0

I have some more before / after aerial photos, but resized a bit to fit better in this forum. Also, I have on my website some juxtapose's which is a nice script to slide over the photo to compare then with now. Since I can't post such codes here I give the link to my page where you can see them. Updates on the way!

Excellent job jumbo0! Thanks for posting your aerial comparisons on nla.

Krell58 · #**45002** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 6:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for the information Krell58. I had no idea.

(and you're right, I didn't see the upper branches of that whitewashed tree)

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It used to cause a lot of grumbling in neighborhoods, one guy would paint his trees, wives would see it and how nice it looked, then tell their husbands to paint their trees. Mad husbands up and down the block. It took awhile to paint especially if rough tree bark was involved.

Lojack · #**45003** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 8:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline

Bob's Air Mail Service . . . once more, with gusto?

1935 - Bob Spencer's Mobile Gas Station, Cochran and Wilshire (Seems a shame that those quaint/understated street lamps have disappeared from the street.

Could that be "Bob" fiddling with the aircraft's nose?) )

http://exhibits.sos.ca.gov/files/ori...f25022493c.jpg

I was looking up street light info this weekend and found the lamps were called Wilshire Specials, and were only used along Wilshire Blvd.

The waterandpowermuseum site has a few more pictures of them on the start of the following page-http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...ts_Page_2.html

I then was curious and street viewed a bit of Wilshire, but the only section that I could find that still has them is the short stretch of Wilshire that runs through MacArthur Park.

https://goo.gl/maps/txwejEbDtW52
GSV

jumbo0 · #**45004** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 11:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Yowza, Jumbo! Your '44 image gives us a really superior aerial shot of...wait for it...Monkey Island! Thanks so much. Post the image. I'd never presume to short stop you. (I would really appreciate your permission to load a copy into my Flickr photo-stream, though.)

Boy those are both really nice images.

Well, happy I could be of any help

The forum doesn't resize images automatically I assume? Otherwise the forum will explode with such big image!

Of course you can use them on your Flickr! Note that all those aerials com from here so don't forget to credit them!

Tourmaline · #**45005** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 12:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lojack

I was looking up street light info this weekend and found the lamps were called Wilshire Specials, and were only used along Wilshire Blvd.

The waterandpowermuseum site has a few more pictures of them on the start of the following page-http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...ts_Page_2.html

I then was curious and street viewed a bit of Wilshire, but the only section that I could find that still has them is the short stretch of Wilshire that runs through MacArthur Park.

https://goo.gl/maps/txwejEbDtW52
GSV

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

Yeah, all that sweet green icing flowing down.

Apparently when Wilshire Blvd. was extended into downtown, a lot of buildings had to be demolished. The part of Wilshire east of MacArthur Park was always considered the less distinctive part, being that Wilshire was meant to be a grand boulevard but it originally only went west from MacArthur Park. Interestingly, it was intended NEVER to have a streetcar line going down it, it was meant to be a boulevard for autos. In the 1920s and 1930s, special double-decker open-top buses ran down Wilshire as public transportation, which is why some department stores were designed with 2nd-floor display windows like this one:

lapl.org

It's kind of hard to see but this pic shows one of the special double-decker buses that used to run down Wilshire:

lapl.org

Here's another shot of Wilshire and a double-decker bus, courtesy of the USC digital archive. Picture is from 1938:

Wilshire and Bronson, 1931, from the USC digital archive:

Those "Wilshire Special" street lamps date from the late 1920s, I think, and originally went west from MacArthur Park to Fairfax. They stopped at Fairfax because originally, west of Fairfax was unincorporated County territory, so the City of LA had no jurisdiction there; I'm not sure when that parcel was annexed into the City. Those Wilshire Specials only exist now through Mac Arthur Park and a few miles east of there, and many of them are in bad shape, some really rusted. I assume they're made of cast iron like many old lamposts back then. It's hard to see but the corners of the lanterns are adorned with nude females.

Disappearance of "Wilshire Specials" has long been lamented here, in addition to other uniquely styled lighting that once adorned LA streets. I suppose I should have been more specific as I was focusing on the simple street lighting on the side street. https://www.google.com/maps/place/S+....3471728?hl=en

jumbo0 · #**45006** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 4:13 PM**

Since I had some spare time today I made some more then/now aerials. The last ones for now, no more spamming the next few days

The Juxtapose versions are here

1936: Baldwin Hills

1941: West side of Korea Town

1927: South Los Angeles

1935: Venice

Greetings from cold Belgium!

tovangar2 · #**45007** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 9:19 PM**

Thank you!!

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

It's hard to see but the corners of the lanterns are adorned with nude females.

I'm sure I've seen a much clearer close-up of a "Wilshire Special" somewhere on the thread, but cannot find it.

This image is from the north side the 1300 block of Wilshire, between Valencia and Witmer (there are a total of 8 "Wilshire Specials" on the block). Little caryatids grace the four corners of the lantern:

gsv

The ever popular "Urban Light", at LACMA on Wilshire, inexplicably does not include "Wilshire Specials".

There doesn't appear to be a "Wilshire Special" at the City of Los Angeles Street Light Museum either.

ETA:

Here's one of the set of four "Wilshire Specials" outside 900 Wilshire Blvd. The shot indicates the scale and allows at peek inside:

bloximages (detail)

900 Wilshire and its beautifully-maintained "Specials":

gsv 2017

The 4 went missing during demo and construction, but were returned:

gsv 2012

There's a pair on the east side of the block too and more crossing the Harbor.

GaylordWilshire · #**45008** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 10:16 PM**

ethereal_reality · #**45009** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 2:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Krell58

The tree trunk is painted with white clay or slow lime. The tree extends above the painted area if you look closely.
Trees could be painted with the clay or lime for decoration or to protect the bark from sun scald or cracks.

Is it the same criteria for poles?

Sherman Way 1920, Owensmouth

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tovangar2 · #**45010** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 3:04 AM**

There's various answers at this page...and this one...and this one

ethereal_reality · #**45011** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 3:14 AM**

Ad found in the El Rodeo, 1909 (USC yearbook)

usc digital archive

Segnogram Press must have just moved to this location.

The 1909 city directory still has the press at 110 E. 4th St

lapl

The 1719 Kane address shows up in the 1913 directory.

lapl

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ethereal_reality · #**45012** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 4:32 AM**

Jean Porter died this past weekend (Saturday, Jan 14)

Here's Jean with her husband Edward Dmytryk.

getty

You might remember Jean from the very early days of the thread (page 257) -in one of my favorite photographs on nla.

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Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan

Jean Porter as Darlene in 'Cry Danger' [1951]

[source: TCM]

see fab fifties' entire post HERE (includes a 2nd photo of the Clover Trailer Park)

Jean Porter's obituary in the Hollywood Reporter

R.I.P. lovely Jean

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sadykadie2 · #**45013** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 5:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is great GW!

thank you, thank you, thank you.

(I'm still looking for a photograph of the Washington Building & Loan, but I havn't had any luck yet)

This rocks! I'm not worthy!

Lojack · #**45014** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 6:35 AM**

The above aerial photo of the Coliseum reminded me about a question I have for a photo that was posted here many pages ago.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17071

This photo is the only one I've seen that has an area of development to the east of the Coliseum on the Agricultural Park/Exposition Park grounds. Earlier photos of the construction show that as flat land, and later as in the aerial a few posts above, it was styled with the current loop with greenery. If the dates are accurate, that means this was only up for a few years, between 1922-1927. Any ideas on what it may have been? Looks substantial for a short term building cluster.

Krell58 · #**45015** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 7:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Krell58, here's an example of poles painted purely for aesthetics, right?

Sherman Way 1920, Owensmouth

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Yes, I, believe so.

Flyingwedge · #**45016** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 7:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Ad found in the El Rodeo, 1909 (USC yearbook)

usc digital archive

Segnogram Press must have just moved to this location.

The 1909 city directory still has the press at 110 E. 4th St

lapl

The 1719 Kane address shows up in the 1913 directory.

lapl

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Segnogram? As in A. Victor Segno? Cool old building, too!

Here's the layout of the Segnogram Press on the 1906 Sanborn (Kane is now Clinton and
Lakeshore is now Glendale Blvd). Your USC yearbook photo, e_r, shows the building on
the west (north is on the right):

ProQuest via LAPL

Here's an undated but early photo of Mr. Segno's corner building:

Echo Park Historical Society

Way back in March 2016 you posted a photo of the corner building, and Beaudry ID'd it, as well as
adding other photos and info very much worth examining.

This is that corner building in 1977 (Kent is the next street north of Clinton):

00075492 @ LAPL

The Segnogram Press seems to have moved around a bit. By 1913/14 they were at 920-22 Santee:

The Inland Printer, Vol 53, Apr-Sep 1914 @ Hathitrust

We see just a slice of 920-22 Santee (1913-1987) at the right edge of this c. 1925 photo of
Engine Co. No. 9 at 916 Santee (1899-1962):

lafire.com

ethereal_reality · #**45017** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 8:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Segnogram? As in A. Victor Segno? Cool old building, too!

Yes. I was shocked!

After I finished my post I started finding all these weird connections to Segno.

chasing down emma

"A. Victor Segno does indeed appears "from nowhere" in Los Angeles in April of 1899, conducting lectures
on his species of "scientific palmistry" and hypnotism, as of the Segno School of Palmistry, at 445 1/2 S. Spring Street,
where he also does readings. He is referred to, at the time, as Prof. Albert Segno, more often than not." ehbritton

Segno appeared, with his stereopiton slides, at the Masonic Hall 431 S. Hill.

1899?

chasing down emma

..but this was Segno's cash cow.

ehbritton

..with money flowing in from the Segno Success Club, Segno funded his elaborate home and Institute of Mentalism
office on the 700 block of Belmont Avenue. -as FW showed us in the previous post.

3rd paragraph down

ehbritton

Alas, Segno's Success Club ended up here...

extra special thanks to ehbritton

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ethereal_reality · #**45018** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 8:35 AM**

Here's another character connected to the Segnogram Press.

William Walker Atkinson

ehbritton

Mr. Atkinson was one of the directors in the 1905 creation of the Segnogram Publishing Company

(I believe the middle initial N is a misprint

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..which published Segno's first periodical, The Segnogram.

top billing for W.W.A.

ehbritton

Mr. Atkinson's was also editor of 'The Mystic' magazine.

(note the Segnogram address 715 Kane St address)

international assoc. of spiritual & occult periodicals

We've come full circle.

usc

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Tourmaline · #**45019** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 1:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lojack

The above aerial photo of the Coliseum reminded me about a question I have for a photo that was posted here many pages ago.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17071

This photo is the only one I've seen that has an area of development to the east of the Coliseum on the Agricultural Park/Exposition Park grounds. Earlier photos of the construction show that as flat land, and later as in the aerial a few posts above, it was styled with the current loop with greenery. If the dates are accurate, that means this was only up for a few years, between 1922-1927. Any ideas on what it may have been? Looks substantial for a short term building cluster.

And . . . a stone's throw away at Exposition Park is the Nat'l History Museum (sans rose garden), circa 1915.

http://exhibits.sos.ca.gov/files/ori...d0eb35460c.jpg

http://www.nhm.org/site/sites/defaul...g_slide_06.jpg