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Old Posted: Apr 18, 2013, 11:05 PM
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I actually agree with the height restriction on the waterfront. The skyscrapers should be downtown.
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I like a height of 4-8 stories for the area. Anything overly tall there would look awkward. Now something along the lake, that would be nice, but on a pier? That would be awkward.
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I think even eight stories is pushing it a little but I'm happy the City has the right idea with this one.

This sort of scale would be perfect:





It's a blank slate. The possibilities are endless. Let's hope the City gets proper help on this one - not just the in-house planners, etc.
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Promise, potential on the waterfront

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...the-waterfront

Just as the city is about to take control of a key swath of land on the waterfront, its arm’s-length development agency is moving forward with imminent plans for new buildings at the water’s edge.

The Hamilton Waterfront Trust has put out a call to the development community for proposals for three new buildings: one on the grassy area between the parking lot and the ice rink, a second between the Sarcoa restaurant and the rink, and a third on the eastern end of the former Discovery Centre.

All three areas are owned by the federal government, but are controlled by the waterfront trust under long-term leases.

The call for proposals is wide open, but the trust has several potential commercial or retail uses in mind — such as shops, restaurants and office spaces, maybe even a banquet centre or hotel.

The deadline for interested bidders to apply is Thursday, May 23, said Werner Plessl, the trust’s executive director.

The agency and its other partners, along with the city, should make a decision within a year and the projects could break ground by the summer of 2014.

The trust’s plans are only one facet of the waterfront’s red-hot potential. The area was also one of the stops on a city-led tour Tuesday that highlighted Hamilton’s possibilities to out-of-town developers. According to Councillor Jason Farr, the tour attracted two full busloads — about 80 people.

“My understanding is a lot of these developers, primarily from Toronto, have been hearing the buzz and are eager to see Hamilton first-hand,” Farr said.

The trust’s news comes fresh on the heels of council’s approval of an agreement with the Hamilton Port Authority for control of Pier 7 and Pier 8. The authority was holding the piers under two long-term leases set to expire in 2015 and 2025. However, the deal will put the land back in the city’s hands by this summer.

Though the trust’s plans for its three new buildings are separate from the city’s plans for piers 7 and 8, Werner says both groups are working in close partnership.

“They all fit together. We’re all trying to work on one common goal,” said Plessl.

Councillor Chad Collins, who has spent the past decade working to develop the waterfront, says having the lands on Pier 7 and Pier 8 under the city’s control will make the waterfront trust’s available land much more attractive. Collins says in the past, the fact the lands on piers 7 and 8 were owned by the federal government turned some developers away because their only option was to lease.

“They want to make sure they have that asset after 20, 30, 40 years, and you can’t do that on leased land,” he said.

However, the two opportunities will complement each other, Collins said.

“I think what you’ll find is smaller business might gravitate to the lands that are leased, while the hotel and condo developers will gravitate to lands that are up for sale.”

Though the city is still two to five years away from offering up its land on piers 7 and 8 to the private sector, developers are already poised to snatch it up. Chris Phillips, the city’s waterfront point-person, says preliminary meetings are under way to discuss the land that’s available, the city’s plan and the project time frames.

“We’ve had nothing formally, per se — right now it’s just about creating the environment,” Phillips said. “The key is that we’re moving forward, and we’re moving forward quickly.”

The local development community is also paying close attention.

Vince Molinaro, president of the Molinaro Group, says his company was behind much of the waterfront development in Burlington — and he’d like to do the same in Hamilton.

“We’re quite proud of what we’ve done down here, and we’d like to do the same thing in Hamilton where we have deep roots and a lot of history,” he said. “People are meeting, and things are happening.”
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I was in Erie, PA over the winter (not the greatest time to visit) but I really liked it's waterfront despite being covered in ice and all. One of the features I enjoyed, was the BiCentennial Tower. I know we have a natural observation point in the escarpment but this would be something neat too!

It's just a simple tower that was dedicated to the citys' bi-centennial year and not that high but I think it would be great if Hamilton had something similar, maybe even perhaps with a restaurant up to or something. Nothing ridiculously high but also the Forks in Winnipeg has something similar too.

http://sailorguides.com/presque/presque_dobbins.html

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Old Posted: Jun 11, 2013, 12:57 PM
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Making Burlington beach strip hydro towers disappear a tall order

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/38...-a-tall-order/

Ridding Burlington's beach strip of skyline-dominating hydro towers would cost local taxpayers up to $36 million, according to early talks between utility and city officials.

And that estimate doesn't include the price tag of powering down Hamilton's side of the ship canal, either — a cost previously pegged at more than $70 million.


Burlington officials recently met with Hydro One for an "informal analysis" of the cost to move, bury or beautify the wall of 60-metre-tall transmission towers between downtown and the ship canal, said Councillor Rick Craven.

Options range from $8 million to swap out some "oil derrick-type" towers with less obtrusive poles, to $36 million to bury the 230,000-volt transmission lines, said Craven, calling those numbers "ballpark" figures.

"They repeatedly pointed out the city would be paying the costs, if this were ever to go ahead," said Craven, who expects council to request a formal Hydro One report. "Everyone wants to see them removed but the question is how, and how much."

There are 30 lakeshore power towers between downtown Burlington and Van Wagner's Beach, each about the size of the Royal Connaught Hotel.

So far, Burlington has only asked about its side of the ship canal.

"Once you get past the canal, that's Hamilton's responsibility," said Craven with a laugh.

Any plan to reroute the corridor would affect the "visual pollution" on Hamilton's beach strip, too, said Councillor Chad Collins, who wants to be involved in any formal study.

Collins said he asked Hydro One to estimate a relocation cost for the Hamilton side in 2009 and was told "at least $70 million."

Spokesperson Nancy Shaddick said Hydro One won't comment on informal conversations.

But an email to Collins from the utility said burying power lines along the lake would be "difficult if not impossible" due to erosion and environmental concerns.

Another option is to reroute the towers away from the lake and along the harbour side of the beach strip, closer to the treatment plant and port authority lands. But Hydro One told Collins the two cities would have to find a new right-of-way between Burlington and Van Wagner's Road, where the towers veer away from the lake.

If the beachfront towers do come down, area property values would go up "very rapidly," said Hamilton real estate agent Conrad Zurini.

"Conservatively speaking, I'd guess 15 or 20 per cent right off the bat," said Zurini, who cautioned the area is still overshadowed by the skyway and lacks amenities. "Right now, a significant number of people will simply refuse to buy (near a hydro tower)."

As it stands, available Beach Boulevard homes along the power corridor range from a townhome for $280,000 to a three-bedroom "luxury waterfront bungalow" for $880,000.

A hydro tower shuffle could also help the environment, said Collins, because machinery used for maintenance routinely damages sensitive beach ecology.

It might even prevent the odd lawsuit — Burlington settled with a woman who sued in 2007 after a power-line-zapped cormorant fell on her head in Beachway Park.

Craven said a clear skyline at Burlington's beach is likely a couple of decades away. "But part of our job is to cast our eyes 20, 25 years down the road and ask where we're going."
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Old Posted: Jun 11, 2013, 5:56 PM
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That's great to hear that they're even thinking about it! It's always boggled my mind that these were located along the beach in the first place; what a waste of waterfront. Even talking about it is a step forward.

Hamilton has so much potential for water front & mountain brow properties, but they'e shot themselves in the foot for most of it. Scenic Dr. & Mountainbrow Blvd. wreck what could have been endless lengths of houses sitting of the edge of cliffs, and the trail along Van Wagners stop any property there from being truly "waterfront"; only Hamilton waterfront properties I can think of are the small streets Lakegate & Church, then a bunch in Stoney Creek. The towers just add to the lack of interest.

Regardless, I'm happy to hear this.
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Old Posted: Jun 12, 2013, 12:58 AM
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So much of the waterfront - in the Golden Horseshoe - is cut off to the public, so it's great that people can actually use the Beach Strip. It's better to share, isn't it?
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