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Carlisle Corp. unveils plans for 300-room hotel Downtown
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Plans are taking shape for a pair of towers including a 30-story skyscraper and hotel that could dramatically boost Downtown’s skyline and convention trade.
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In regards to One Beale...

I'm glad to see these new renderings and have some sort of idea of what's being re-proposed here. As far as the overall design of both towers I'm pretty let down. I think that particular angle that is shown in the rendering is pretty bland and boring (I think a perspective from the north, south, or east would be more interesting); I'm just not impressed with either of them which I understand budget issues probably have led to what is in my opinion a pretty weak design.

One key idea with the new design is that neither tower relate to the other. Of course you don't want folks who are looking to buy condos to feel that they're associated with the hotel, but they're also designed in a way that makes me think that one is more certain than the other (that might have been stated in the article; I didn't read it). I'd prefer that both relate to each other, and they might other than sharing a base, but I just get the feeling that the hotel is probably more certain and then if the interest is there for the residential tower, it will follow.

I figured I'd post this here since there hasn't been any discussion in the One Beale thread.
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one beale was shelved about 2009, possibly 2008, due presumably because of the state of the economy. the cawas told, at that time, by carlisle that it would probably be some time before bringing it back on line---probably 5 years or maybe as long as 7 years---stressing again the dependency of the state of the economy, the beginning of a recovery, as seen in home and small business loans, before large construction loans and particularly hotel and large mixed use projects returned to the building trade. the one assurance, as was stated in the ca, as i recollect, was carlisle's promise to build a structure---some question about wheather it would be 2 towers or varying structures, some component would be for mixed features containing offices, hotel
rooms, and condos, which were basically headed for a sale out, which was surprising to the carlisles, and a second reason to go back to the drawing board w/ the purpose of restructuring more condos.

consequently, several things occurred during that period. the finished beale restaurant under ground, the landscading, the water walls, the somewhat complicated floating bridge ramp to scurry visitors and and public to and from their points of destination and business. no doubt, it was much more sensible to build the landing before piling at least 30 stories of concrete and steel on a part of the route that will , no doubt, become a main entrance for the delivery of equipment and supplies used for construction. after looking at the years of mistakes at, not only the pyramid and other public projects, perhaps some organizational skills have been learned.

w/ respect to ht., it was and is still proposed to be the tallest and most prestigious building in the memphis skyline. definite and specific adjectives were used to described this for the project. supposedly, it will be a game changer for the skyline, after too many years of building and attracting work space for specialty services and businesses, etc. as i am too lazy to look these things up, i am relying on my memory, which was seemed to always get me by in important conservations and debates. please feel free to consult my assistant literary, know-it-all, and editor is chief.

i, too, have placed the need for a building or buildings as tall or taller the the crescent building, located in east memphis. it gives a great deal of important to a relatively small footprint. though it appears to be a very expensive, i have heard from several that, even when first built, it was not an overly expensive building. w/in the last year or so, it changed hands for a nice chunk of change. i was thinking in the low to high 50'sb ut again, i didn't look it up.

i only hope the carlisle project will come to fruition soon. perhaps, we might even get a down town fbi building out of it. even w/ some smart restructuring efforts, horizon II could become the fbi building.
thought the majic number for new hotel rooms remains at 1,200, we still might witness a construction miracle, should the hilton luxury hotel be put togehter w/ popcicle sticks, superglue, and bedside mattresses.

30 stories only means 30 stories when quantified by a number. that number will be determined by the floor plates, the number of specialty rooms, not counted as liviable space, office space, etc. certainly, the placement of a mezzanine level, its ht., the underground parking spaces, if any, and he floor plate set for the lobby entrances, ballrooms, etc. i think, depending on the firm, the builder, and the client, they can agree on an reasonable number of feet, which would take in the first floor. regardless, i am hopeful that the buildings will be seen as a beautiful addition to the city, to beale street, and as a beautiful marker for the beginning of the south main disctrict. i would love to see some buildings across from the 201 buildings. it really is barren at that intersection of danny thomas and poplar.

finally, i remain in a defense position as to where, why, how, when, etc., our downtown can't act as any other major city. i think if a few were told that nashville now saw that rivers and ridges make cities look bigger or more metropolitian, thet would help some of the writers for these forums.

last, but not least, the last photo of a city covered w/ various types and colors of christmas lights, which seems to be a throw back to a trip down parts of summer avenue, is a bit much. let's keep candles, shimmerlights, light and silver lights, angles, etc., as the main ornaments for downtown. class is important, too.
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In regards to One Beale...
Fair enough. I actually like the look of the new proposal much better than the old one(s). It's a pretty conservative design, but then again I'm not much of a fan of wild/ trendy architecture when dealing with high rises. They're not twins, but the exterior materials & color scheme definitely look related. I wonder if this is only an early concept and the look may change. Although, I'll admit I was wondering (if not hoping )if they'd propose something spired that would surpass most buildings in the southeast. Since the proposal has gone back to 2 towers, I guess we won't be getting that 50 - 60 story tower. But hey, that's not really what's most important. This is a great development for downtown, especially in conjunction with all the other things going on. Especially white elephants like the Chisca, Horizon & Pyramid now all coming back online. Not to mention the Crosstown Building further east.
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one beale was shelved about 2009, possibly 2008, due presumably because of the state of the economy. the cawas told, at that time, by carlisle that it would probably be some time before bringing it back on line---probably 5 years or maybe as long as 7 years---stressing again the dependency of the state of the economy, the beginning of a recovery, as seen in home and small business loans, before large construction loans and particularly hotel and large mixed use projects returned to the building trade. the one assurance, as was stated in the ca, as i recollect, was carlisle's promise to build a structure---some question about wheather it would be 2 towers or varying structures, some component would be for mixed features containing offices, hotel
rooms, and condos, which were basically headed for a sale out, which was surprising to the carlisles, and a second reason to go back to the drawing board w/ the purpose of restructuring more condos.

consequently, several things occurred during that period. the finished beale restaurant under ground, the landscading, the water walls, the somewhat complicated floating bridge ramp to scurry visitors and and public to and from their points of destination and business. no doubt, it was much more sensible to build the landing before piling at least 30 stories of concrete and steel on a part of the route that will , no doubt, become a main entrance for the delivery of equipment and supplies used for construction. after looking at the years of mistakes at, not only the pyramid and other public projects, perhaps some organizational skills have been learned.

w/ respect to ht., it was and is still proposed to be the tallest and most prestigious building in the memphis skyline. definite and specific adjectives were used to described this for the project. supposedly, it will be a game changer for the skyline, after too many years of building and attracting work space for specialty services and businesses, etc. as i am too lazy to look these things up, i am relying on my memory, which was seemed to always get me by in important conservations and debates. please feel free to consult my assistant literary, know-it-all, and editor is chief.

i, too, have placed the need for a building or buildings as tall or taller the the crescent building, located in east memphis. it gives a great deal of important to a relatively small footprint. though it appears to be a very expensive, i have heard from several that, even when first built, it was not an overly expensive building. w/in the last year or so, it changed hands for a nice chunk of change. i was thinking in the low to high 50'sb ut again, i didn't look it up.

i only hope the carlisle project will come to fruition soon. perhaps, we might even get a down town fbi building out of it. even w/ some smart restructuring efforts, horizon II could become the fbi building.
thought the majic number for new hotel rooms remains at 1,200, we still might witness a construction miracle, should the hilton luxury hotel be put togehter w/ popcicle sticks, superglue, and bedside mattresses.

30 stories only means 30 stories when quantified by a number. that number will be determined by the floor plates, the number of specialty rooms, not counted as liviable space, office space, etc. certainly, the placement of a mezzanine level, its ht., the underground parking spaces, if any, and he floor plate set for the lobby entrances, ballrooms, etc. i think, depending on the firm, the builder, and the client, they can agree on an reasonable number of feet, which would take in the first floor. regardless, i am hopeful that the buildings will be seen as a beautiful addition to the city, to beale street, and as a beautiful marker for the beginning of the south main disctrict. i would love to see some buildings across from the 201 buildings. it really is barren at that intersection of danny thomas and poplar.

finally, i remain in a defense position as to where, why, how, when, etc., our downtown can't act as any other major city. i think if a few were told that nashville now saw that rivers and ridges make cities look bigger or more metropolitian, thet would help some of the writers for these forums.

last, but not least, the last photo of a city covered w/ various types and colors of christmas lights, which seems to be a throw back to a trip down parts of summer avenue, is a bit much. let's keep candles, shimmerlights, light and silver lights, angles, etc., as the main ornaments for downtown. class is important, too.

If you are referring to the Christmas lights in my post, that's simply decorations of the pool area of the resort I was using to show what could be built at Southland in West Memphis. The next step in Southland's evolution will likely include a hotel and thar circular shaped on I posted is form a casino in Durant OK. Put that on the northwest corner of the dog track and you have stunning views of the river and Memphis Skyline and the backside of western sunsets. There's an issue skimming below the surface in Arkansas. The Quapaw have bought land that can be claimed as ancestral along the Arkansas River in Little Rock. They fully intend to pursue a casino resort there in time. If that goes down, Oaklawn and Southland will push for full gaming after they fight the Quapaw from even starting. It's all just conjecture on how it will play out but do hope whatever happens there's some provision/incentive to allow gaming parlors as part of a revitalization plan of the historic buildings in downtown Hot Springs. Overall, with regards to Tunica, it would enhance the entire MidSouth.
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i was surprised to see the article about the proposed recreational grounds in the shoals area and the amount of money for the project. if we are counting, this is about 1 of 4 proposed recreational outlets in a very limited area. j.p. coleman state park in north ms., then we have pickwick recreational park, state owned and operated. the reiverbend complex, already approved by the ms legislature, but currently on hold. as i recall that development is supossed to have facilities for about 10,000. golf course, retail shopping, something akin to a recreational park, swimming pool, boating and skiing activities, and other amenities. housing for about 10,000. continuing, you have tunica and robinsonville resort and gambling amenities, then skip over to souland park in west memphis. it would have been such good thinking to think about these activities w/ considering demographics and draw of the largest population center, w/ as many of these places working together instead against, placing the gaming clubs just iside of ms and building much of these things around memphis. southland may now prove to be a real money maker for western arkansas. the multibillion dollar steel plant, the hinco, cleaning products facility, w/ its recent addition seem to be all good news and good directions for the ariansas to head, as they haven't really been much in the game over the years. finally, i would love to see the recreational fairest wheel rest on part of the mud island complex, which would pull more and more to that area. in addition, a bright white roller-coaster would fit at the southern tip, again, to bring visitors and money.
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I wonder if this is only an early concept and the look may change.
I'd expect that it would. I haven't seen the planning documents, but I assume various things would need to be addressed between the design that received conceptual approval vs the one that will seek final approval. As with any development, particularly high rises, how the promote pedestrian traffic and address the urban fabric at street level will determine how well they fit in. I'd hate to see a well designed tower that breaks the flow of a street wall, has a circle drive at the base, doesn't promote interaction with pedestrians, etc.

Beale and South Main are returning to a pretty urban status in regards to walkability and actually having residents who can interact near their homes as if they would if they were in midtown or out east. I'd fully expect any development of this size to at least consider providing space that accomodates those individuals whether it be small retail space (actual everyday retail and not boutiques), casual dining, etc. While it won't effect the over all success of the design as most would see it, those small elements are a make it or break it, IMO.
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Their Ananda IPA is legit. Tiny Bomb is pretty good as well.
Came across Ananda at one of my local stores. Not stellar, but definitely solid. It's in the price range of a lot of my regulars, so I'll be adding it to the rotation.

I'll have to find Tiny Bomb now.

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Group advocates Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame for Mid-South Coliseum
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The Mid-South Coliseum has seen better days — closed since 2006, the former entertainment venue is in a state of neglect, seemingly given the bare minimum of maintenance attention. And, if a city plan for a new Fairgrounds development proceeds, the building will likely be demolished altogether.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/b...e-for-mid.html

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GREENPRINT 2015/2040 is a 25-year plan developed by the Mid-South Regional Greenprint Consortium. The group is made up of more than 300 individuals from 82 different organizations across Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi. The plan would create close to 500 miles of off-street trails and 200 miles of on-street bike lanes, link 95 percent of large park acreage and connect just under 80 percent of the region's population and jobs to within 1 mile of a greenprint corridor.
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Loeb Properties Inc. revitalized Overton Square and has started renovating the Highland Strip — and now the commercial real estate company is ready to tackle Broad Avenue.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/p...e-project.html

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^That's good to see. Looking forward to seeing if any smaller infill that's well designed comes from this. I think Broad Ave is pretty accommodating to infill, especially smaller multi-family residential. I think the market will be there as well.
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A long-vacant Downtown building may be resurrected in the form of a new hotel.
The owner of 310 Union and 341 Monroe Avenue, which was previously New York Suit Exchange, has filed a special use permit with the Memphis and Shelby County Office of Planning and Development to build a LaQuinta Inn on the site. If approved, the hotel would have 104 rooms in a four-story building.
New York Suit Exchange moved out of the building in 2011 after being based there since 1992. The building had been vacant but was acquired by GCG Hospitality for around $500,000, according to a deed on file with the Shelby County Register of Deeds. The special use permit calls for the New York Suit Exchange building to be demolished. However, 341 Monroe, which was previously a Hostess Bakery Store, will remain intact.
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Memphis will soon be getting a Main Event Entertainment complex, though the adjacent address the article provided is misleading since Appling Farms Parkway is nowhere near Highway 64 (it's actually between Whitten and Appling roads).

Family Entertainment Chain Coming to Memphis

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http://www.memphisdailynews.com/news...ng-to-memphis/

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The Dallas-based family entertainment chain bills itself as “the fastest-growing family entertainment chain in America.”

Main Event centers typically employ 100 to 175 people, including positions for managers, servers, greeters, sales team members, event coordinators, electronics technicians and bowling and game attendants.

With centers ranging from 48,000 to 75,000 square feet, Main Event locations offer more than 20 state-of-the-art bowling lanes, a multilevel laser tag arena, billiards and a gravity ropes course suspended over a game room with more than 100 interactive video games. Giant television screens are located throughout the centers.
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This sort of hotel development belongs right off of the interstate, not downtown. The fact that the developer is going "surburban-style" with this is sure to have many people upset (including myself) who were hoping for something more urban in that spot.



Another Downtown Hotel Could Be On the Way
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http://www.memphisdailynews.com/news...be-on-the-way/

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Gopal Govan is seeking a special use permit from the city-county Land Use Control Board to build the four-story, 104-room LaQuinta Inn & Suites hotel on the site of the former New York Suit Exchange at 310 Union Ave., located at Union and Danny Thomas Boulevard. The Land Use Control Board meets Thursday, Feb. 12.

Office of Planning Development staff are recommending approval of the hotel with conditions.
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This sort of hotel development belongs right off of the interstate, not downtown. The fact that the developer is going "surburban-style" with this is sure to have many people upset (including myself) who were hoping for something more urban in that spot.
I agree. The lack of an urban feel here, and furthermore the lack of planning guidelines and a development code that emphasize urban design is pretty troubling.
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http://www.commercialappeal.com/busi...hotel-downtown

Rendering: Carlisle Corp./ The Commercial Appeal
I was in Memphis all weekend, had a downtown hotel. I had not read the article regarding One Beale and its new redesign. This look I'm very into: contemporary, but not overdone. Clean lines, but not boring.

I'm a fan of the separation of design, it certainly reminds the people who live in one tower that they aren't the same as the hotel in the other and vice versa.

All in all, well done. With the economy on the rebound I'm feeling positive this project will see fewer delays going forward.

http://www.memphisdailynews.com/news...beale-project/

There's another link regarding the tower from the Daily News.
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This sort of hotel development belongs right off of the interstate, not downtown. The fact that the developer is going "surburban-style" with this is sure to have many people upset (including myself) who were hoping for something more urban in that spot.



Another Downtown Hotel Could Be On the Way
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http://www.memphisdailynews.com/news...be-on-the-way/
The article states a suburban style hotel; however, the renderings don't really display massive parking lots around the structure. In and of itself the structure isn't terrible, although it isn't exactly a work of art.

Is the article stating its suburban because of brand, or is this really going to be a sea of parking lots around the building? If they position parking around the back of the building it wouldn't be as bad, depending on where the front is.

The form could be improved for sure, but I think downtown could use all the new hotel construction it can get. Even if its a smaller 3 story structure.
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The article states a suburban style hotel; however, the renderings don't really display massive parking lots around the structure. In and of itself the structure isn't terrible, although it isn't exactly a work of art.

Is the article stating its suburban because of brand, or is this really going to be a sea of parking lots around the building? If they position parking around the back of the building it wouldn't be as bad, depending on where the front is.

The form could be improved for sure, but I think downtown could use all the new hotel construction it can get. Even if its a smaller 3 story structure.
I agree. The design itself isn't terrible. Bringing it to the street would help a lot.

Speaking of hotels downtown...does anyone know why there is no movement in regard to the two hotels supposedly being built across from AutoZone Park at the old Greyhound site?
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http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...ls-emerge.html
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If everything goes according to plan, One Beale could finally begin construction in the first quarter of 2016.
But a lot of work has to be done before one piece of dirt can be moved. Details of the project were presented to the Center City Revenue Committee earlier today by Chase Carlisle, director of real estate and development for Carlisle Corp., One Beale's developer.
During the meeting, which was strictly for public feedback and information, Carlisle provided details ranging from floor plans of the 280 apartments in the current design to the potential economic impact of the project from start of construction to the opening of the hotel.
The $150 million project is in the early stages of design and financing, but Carlisle said construction could begin early next year and take between 24 and 30 months to complete
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One Beale's North Tower will consist of a 30-story building with 280 residential apartments with floor plans that include 900-square-foot and 1,140-square-foot models. Each floor will have a total of 10 units. The second floor of the building will include a 6,500-square-foot restaurant with public access off of Beale Street. A parking garage with at least 800 parking spaces is also part of the design.The South Tower will be 22 stories and include 300 hotel rooms. Carlisle said the company is working with "an internationally flagged hotel" on the brand, but wouldn't say what the brand would be when the project is completed. Other details of that part of the project are still being determined. Carlisle Corp. is working with Hnedak Bobo Group Inc. to design One Beale. A contractor will be selected after the design is completed
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