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Old Posted Aug 18, 2017, 8:20 PM
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So where are we with shift? What is next?
From August 3 to September 18, this is the period of public review of the Shift RT Master Plan.

After that, is the Pre-TPAP period (TPAP = Transit Project Assessment Process) which goes through the remainder of 2017. Not long after, begins the actual TPAP period which is mandated to go for 120 days.

The city estimates that they will send it all off to the province for review in September 2018; there may or may not be a new government in Queen's Park then.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 10:33 PM
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http://london.ctvnews.ca/video#1221681

City begins acquiring lands for BRT lanes
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2017, 4:08 AM
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There is plenty of blame to spread around. As with most government procurement projects they almost always fail and at every level. Feds, Prov, Municipal. Procurement in IT is probably the worst with the best being buying pencils, paper and loads of gravel. But even that has many examples of failure. $500 pencil sharpeners ring any bells in the education sector?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...-ibm-1.3770947

To paint this as a left vs right wing problem is wrong because as the root cause is in the nature of procurement.

Procurement should be thrown away and re-thought completely. It is an epic failure!
I work for the fedgov and I totally agree that the procurement system is a dog's breakfast and desperately in need of an overhaul.
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2017, 4:15 AM
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well, they shifted down, as per the course.

Of course I was going to be disappointed. London, you know.
Outside of what I read here in the forum, I've heard virtually nothing about BRT in the last three or four months and was beginning to wonder if the city had deep-sixed the project already.

On a related note, I've seen some stirrings from the Down Shift people lately. It looks like they're going to try to whip up or shore up more support for their cause, now that an election is not too far off.

If Cheng is the Harrisite everyone thinks he is, he will promise to immediately kill BRT if he wins. When their electoral fortunes are on the skids, conservatives always try to get the populist vote and that means pandering to mouth-breathing, low-information, wilfully ignorant people, sad to say.
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Outside of what I read here in the forum, I've heard virtually nothing about BRT in the last three or four months and was beginning to wonder if the city had deep-sixed the project already.

On a related note, I've seen some stirrings from the Down Shift people lately. It looks like they're going to try to whip up or shore up more support for their cause, now that an election is not too far off.

If Cheng is the Harrisite everyone thinks he is, he will promise to immediately kill BRT if he wins. When their electoral fortunes are on the skids, conservatives always try to get the populist vote and that means pandering to mouth-breathing, low-information, wilfully ignorant people, sad to say.
Honestly as much as want a better public transit system in London, I wouldn't mind seeing the current proposed plan fail due to the numerous flaws and service gaps. Maybe if that happens will see a better plan rise up from the ashes of the old one? But that's just some wishful thinking.
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To me the city's first priority MUST be to get the funding assurances from QP & Ottawa so any change in government does not put the plan on-hold.
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When their electoral fortunes are on the skids, conservatives always try to get the populist vote and that means pandering to mouth-breathing, low-information, wilfully ignorant people, sad to say.

Indeed, that is the game that conservatives often play. Which is why they will never get my vote.
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To me the city's first priority MUST be to get the funding assurances from QP & Ottawa so any change in government does not put the plan on-hold.
The project could still be delayed even with the funding, my biggest worry is that the DownShift crowd might be able to put enough pressure on politicians to get there way (which is moving the main north rapid route off of Richmond onto Wharncliffe, which is a terrible idea). Not to mention there's still the unresolved issue with Western.
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Western should steer clear of the city decisions on transportation. They should worry about putting a leash on their wild (animals with human faces) students that they can not control. Not block the city that is trying to do their job! Western and its students are becoming the shame of our city.
Western University has a lot of work to do to repair their tainted name as a party university. Their campus has more garbage littering surrounding the immediate neighborhoods than a third world country in crisis.
Why don't they party on their stadium football field instead, but they are allowed to trash city streets? If these students have so much pent up energy why don't they put it to good use by doing something rewarding and not useless drinking. I bet you the parents that send these kids there do not appreciate their kids behavior. Western Leaders you need to fix this, the problem starts at the top!!!
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As much as I would LOveee to debate with the anti-conservatives I see on this page all day. The fact is that the Kitchener/Waterloo LRT opens next year.. which Harpers Conservative government helped fund....and we are here still arguing without a shovel in the ground. This is LONDON!! Things happen very slowly here regardless of the political colors.
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$370M ask to Feds and Prov to fund BRT.

http://www.lfpress.com/2017/10/05/bi...ns-budget-list
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http://www.lfpress.com/2017/10/15/ma...emands-shakeup

My personal opinion here..I don't get this guy's thinking behind rapid transit. Essentially taking the city a step backwards if he won. Anyone against dedicated rapid transit lanes is against the city growing in my opinion especially if it will almost be ready for construction which it should be by then. Also why build a cheaper version when all levels of government and all political colors at federal and provincial level will fund it. I don't get him.
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http://www.lfpress.com/2017/10/15/ma...emands-shakeup

My personal opinion here..I don't get this guy's thinking behind rapid transit. Essentially taking the city a step backwards if he won. Anyone against dedicated rapid transit lanes is against the city growing in my opinion especially if it will almost be ready for construction which it should be by then. Also why build a cheaper version when all levels of government and all political colors at federal and provincial level will fund it. I don't get him.
London. So much potential. And forever remains potential, because of politicians like this.

I would love to move London when my military career ends. The more I read though, the more I am convinced that London won't actually capitalize on its urban potential in my lifetime.
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