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How about high-speed rail expansion to Hong Kong? Will they consider it?
They're building it right now. It's the Guangzhou–Shenzhen–Hong Kong Express Rail Link, with the Hong Kong terminus station located at Kowloon Station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzh...ress_Rail_Link

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Do you have construction photos? I would like to see it.
I saw the massive construction site in Hong Kong a couple of months ago. Here's the best photo I have of the site and all you can see is construction hoarding and cranes since the focus of the picture was the massive (it feels like the right superlative today) mixed-use development that was built atop the MTR Airport Express Station (all the buildings visible in the picture).


I took this photo February 23rd, 2014.
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Is that where the new station will be ?
There's plenty of room indeed. A few years ago, the site was occupied by sport facilities, wasn't it ?
A cultural center designed by Foster (a giant canopy), was also projected in the area.

I hope the station will come with a few tall skyscapers.
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i rode a chinese hsr train from luoyang to beijing a week or so ago. the "business class" section (which is the top level, better than first) is really nice. comfy seats that flatten out, only three per row, power, table, etc.

the service is horribly bad - and you have to ignore the incredibly unprofessional train staff running around yelling and so on, but the train itself, very nice. nicest i've been on in china.
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All aboard: China's railway dream

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China's great railway adventure is picking up steam. The maps on the walls of the headquarters of the Chengdu Logistics Office make it obvious how rail can transform the fortunes of west China. --- Until now, shipping goods down the Yangtse and then loading them onto ocean-going ships has enormously disadvantaged inland-China. Now, said logistics chief Chen Zhongwei, the days of foreigners knowing only coastal cities like Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong are over.

- Chengdu claims that half the world's top companies are now moving production bases west and that the software is following the hardware. In Chengdu's business park, I watched programmers and graphic designers fine-tune Spartan Wars: Gods of Olympus. It's a new game targeting Europe and North America from a Chengdu-based company called tap4fun. The glass walls of their offices open and close with fingerprint scanners. Their break out zone is complete with table tennis, running machines and pictures of Apple founder Steve Jobs. --- Jacob Maynard from Arizona told me rail has made a huge difference. "Transportation has actually been quite revolutionary," he said. "It has opened up lots of opportunities when before, it was an absolute nightmare. Now it is much more convenient both going west and east."

- Once famous as the world's factory for low-technology and labour intensive products, China is now adding bullet trains to the mix, a symbol of its ability to shift up the technology ladder. Ambition doesn't stop there. Not content with a high-speed grid at home and lucrative railway contracts abroad, Beijing is considering both funding and building high-speed lines from west China through Central Asia to Europe and from south-west China through South East Asia to Singapore. --- The challenges are immense: persuading Central Asian states to move to standard gauge tracks and tackling security to add to the enormous diplomatic, financial and technical hurdles. But China has advantages in this game: enormous economies of scale, the absence of a political cycle to disrupt long-term planning, state-owned rail builders with deep pockets, and not least control of the media.

- Back at the Chengdu cargo hub, loading is finished and the train departs on its two week journey to Europe. If China realises its dream for a high-speed route in the same direction, passengers may one day make the trip in two days. It seems almost unimaginable but many observers would have laughed if you'd said 10 years ago that China's rail builders could come from so far behind to undercut the market leaders on their own doorstep. Watch this space.

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Beijing is considering both funding and building high-speed lines from west China through Central Asia to Europe and from south-west China through South East Asia to Singapore.
I seriously doubt that it would be a good investment, unless plane travel becomes virtually impossible because of a financial or ecological disaster.
Do the chinese authorities see that coming or do they just desperately need new mega-projects for the near future to sustain the economy ?
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My guess is part of the motivation is their desire to do HSR freight.

http://www.worldfinance.com/infrastr...ure-of-freight

Which isn't just a transport play, but also a resource play for China, as they have already done elsewhere in the developing world. They come in and offer to build infrastructure you can't, in exchange for access to natural resources your economy isn't utilizing anyways.
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Also a 2 day trip from China to Europe with more comfortable accommodation, and great for rail ride enthusiasts.
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China flexes its high-speed rail muscles by rolling out 32 new routes in one day

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Tomorrow China launches another 32 new high-speed rail routes, including a new link that cuts the 1,780 km (1106 miles) trip between Guangzhou and Shanghai to seven hours from 16. It’s an impressive feat that, if successful, is more proof of China’s resolve and capacity to become the global leader in high-speed rail technology.

- But China’s rail dreams have not been without setbacks. Last month, Mexico killed a deal in which China would build a $3.7 billion high-speed train link between Mexico City and the center of the country—the first time a Chinese company would have built an entire high-speed train system overseas. Earlier this year, a “rice for high-speed rail” deal with Thailand also fell apart. Both deals appear to have been torpedoed mainly because of domestic reasons, but critics say the Chinese bidders also failed to really understand their target markets.

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Beijing's first maglev line to start service late 2017

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Beijing's first medium-low speed maglev line is scheduled to start operation at the end of the year, the line operator said Saturday.Beijing Subway said it was preparing test runs.

Trains will stop at seven of the eight stations in the initial period as the Pingguoyuan interchange station is still under renovation and is expected to start service in late 2019, it said. A total of 10 trains will be put into use in the first stage of operation. With a maximum speed of 80 km per hour, the train is designed to carry a maximum 1,032 passengers at a time. The line, with a total length of 10.2 km, will help improve transport for the suburban Mentougou district and optimize the industrial structure in Shijingshan district, it said.

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That's a great looking station. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to ride the rails from Shanghai to Hong Kong at some point in the future. I'm a big user of China's HSR system (this month alone I've been on the train for 40+ hours - Shanghai - Changzhou, Shanghai-Zhengzhou, Shanghai-Guangzhou, and Shanghai-Huizhou) when I travel for business, so of course I'll use this new addition as soon as I can.
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That's a great looking station. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to ride the rails from Shanghai to Hong Kong at some point in the future. I'm a big user of China's HSR system (this month alone I've been on the train for 40+ hours - Shanghai - Changzhou, Shanghai-Zhengzhou, Shanghai-Guangzhou, and Shanghai-Huizhou) when I travel for business, so of course I'll use this new addition as soon as I can.
Yikes. That's a long trip even on the HSR. Not worth it. Just fly!

I think the HSR only works up until about 800-1000km around us.
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how long would that train ride even be?
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Yikes. That's a long trip even on the HSR. Not worth it. Just fly!

I think the HSR only works up until about 800-1000km around us.
I prefer the train even if it takes longer than flying (cost is basically a wash) because I don't have to deal with the excessive security theatre at airports and because the train is much more comfortable than flying (more leg room, much larger windows, etc). I can also get work done on the train since I still have internet access. And unlike flights which are often delayed in China, the train is almost always on time.

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how long would that train ride even be?
It's 8 hours from Shanghai to Hong Kong. Flying would be 2.5 hours (plus 2 hours for getting to the airport in advance, plus waiting for luggage after getting off the plane, plus extra travel time to get where I'd want to be in Hong Kong as the airport is far out of the downtown area while the train station is right downtown).
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