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Old Posted Jul 6, 2017, 2:20 PM
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Yes, tracks were even upgraded in prevision of this. Depends if the USA will cut service though...


http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/s...ears/82379346/
If it is at all viable, I want to take the train to New York with a friend this summer. We have already discussed it.
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Yeah, of course I wasn't saying we should kick out VIA of Central Station entirely. However, if we have to scrap the REM or change the whole project to save 20 minutes on the TGF, the choice is pretty logical.


I'm not that familiar with VIA's operations outside the Montreal-Toronto corridor. Which tracks are you referring to?
Through St-Luc railyard for the Senneterre/Jonquière trains.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2017, 4:22 AM
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Through St-Luc railyard for the Senneterre/Jonquière trains.
And then they use the same Montreal trackage as Mascouche basically?
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And then they use the same Montreal trackage as Mascouche basically?
Yes.
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The law allowing the REM to be built has been adopted this morning at the National Assembly.

The project is therefore fully funded and approved.

Now, CDPQ Infra can award the contracts and start the construction. Shovels will be in the ground by the end of the year.

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Winning bidders have been announced. Construction starts April 2018.

Engineering and construction: NouvLR Group (SNC-Lavalin, Pomerleau, EBC, Dragados)
Rolling stock: Alstom

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SNC-Lavalin is building the Réseau Express Métropolitain, Alstom is the rolling stock provider.

Updated map. The A13 station has been eliminated and the Bassin Peel project is now overground:



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Nun's Island bridge:



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The CDPQ-infra has confirmed that the REM's rolling stock will be the Alstom Metropolis.
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You may have noticed, the mass transit branch of Alstom was recently purchased by Siemens, people.
And their power supply subsidy purchased by General Electric.
Alstom is no longer anything under control of French assets in particular. It is completely globalized now.
I don't see anything really wrong about it, we'll always get a good chunk of that industry here in France anyway, thanks to our experience and quality engineering on that topic.
I'm only wondering about the fate of Bombardier. I think they need to merge with Alstom-Siemens too, so we can face the fearsome Chinese competition more easily, instead of fighting against our own interests.

Moreover, Bombardier should be the name of the resulting giant corporation, cause it's cooler and even more fearsome/scary than anything Chinese, and it's quite historic, bearing our own identity.

In a nutshell, Bombardier sounds sexier.
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Construction so far of the REM metro system from their website : https://rem.info/en/albums/progress-work-2018

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Dang it's nice to see a grand transit vision come to life and so quickly. Here in Edmonton meanwhile...
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Dang it's nice to see a grand transit vision come to life and so quickly. Here in Edmonton meanwhile...
The project was announced in 2016 and construction is well underway. Montrealers are surprised by how quickly this huge project is moving along. Inauguration for the Brossard <> City Centre segment is planned for 2021 (Source: 6 maps to understand the REM). We're not used to this!
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This project reminds me in a lot of ways as a sort of North American Crossrail.
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Montreal`s REM progress is remarkable and makes Toronto`s RER progress look truly pathetic.
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Montreal`s REM progress is remarkable and makes Toronto`s RER progress look truly pathetic.
Private sector planning versus public makes all the difference.
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Cool, thanks for the link to those maps, they clearly explain this project.

I do have a couple questions though, how was this project able to start construction so fast? Seems like a lot to design and test work would be needed. (especially the underground portion). Was some of this already existing and just having the technology changed? How much is completely new?

For example the Vancouver Broadway Subway (phase one 6km) is now approved and has all funding in place, and despite years of soil / geological drill testing it will still take over another year (construction starting in 2020) for the project to have its designs finalized and a contractor selected. After that it will take 5 years to build...

So how can Montréal move so fast on this project?
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Cool, thanks for the link to those maps, they clearly explain this project.

I do have a couple questions though, how was this project able to start construction so fast? Seems like a lot to design and test work would be needed. (especially the underground portion). Was some of this already existing and just having the technology changed? How much is completely new?

For example the Vancouver Broadway Subway (phase one 6km) is now approved and has all funding in place, and despite years of soil / geological drill testing it will still take over another year (construction starting in 2020) for the project to have its designs finalized and a contractor selected. After that it will take 5 years to build...

So how can Montréal move so fast on this project?
The Mont-Royal tunnel and Deux-Montagne line are being converted to metro-standard, which is 30km of the 67km planned. No new EAs were needed for this part. The other EAs were rushed to be completed before a shortened 60 days public audience. People complained at that audience that much of the fine details weren't known and the CDPQi replied that they're building the REM with a new mindset to have things built quickly. That opened the door to court actions.

The main reason for the project to become real so quickly (it's relative, it's basically a 1960s project with new lines) is that government procurement rules do not apply. Typically, a contract whithin a governmental organisation can take up to a year to give, the Caisse in more or less 5 months from announcement, completed most of the work with preferred partners. Also, planning work itself was done ahead of the April 2016 annoucement.

During the short-listing procurement process, remaining studies were done by the consortia. Even with the winning bidders, some analysis is still being done and changes are being made, opposite of usual government tenders where every nail is documented before construction starts. This is a similar approach taken by the-then Conservative government to build the Samuel-De-Champlain bridge : ask a consortium to design/build/finance and get things done ASAP. Heck, one or two stations' locations are not even known as of today for the REM.

Metrolinx in Toronto has taken the complete opposite approach where studies pile up, and most of them with short-staffed TTC. Hence it takes years and years to come out with plans that could be done in a couple of months with a different kind of procurement approach. Add that to lazy politics, too many open houses, NIMBYs and you don't build much.

There was many tentatives by unions to demonize and derail the REM in Montréal, since optimization is a new concept to transit. A judge called the bluff last year. the government also passed a law saying basically the project is a done deal, deal with it. Construction could have actually started last year but was delayed 6 months due to price negotiations and modifications to the initial routing.
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New renders of the REM's Ville-Mont-Royal metro station.

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Finalized design of Du Ruisseau station and basis for surface ones.

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