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Old Posted Oct 17, 2007, 7:54 PM
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For those interested, which i assume will be all of you, i thought i would share the below announcement i came across. this is part of a new public commenting process the city is initiating, in order to give stakeholders in the area an opportunity to see and comment on proposed developments early on in the project. This project will take up the entire block and it's right in the middle of downtown. Historically you couldn't say much about a project until it was too far down the process. It will be interesting to hear early comments from the planning commission, since this is being presented to them as well as the public. There is no vote, it's basically just a preview.

If you've got opinions, and a lot of us do, i suggest checking it out and making your voice heard if you don't like what you see.


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Please note that at this Thursday's (10/18) Planning Commission meeting there will be a presentation of a proposed mixed-use project on the block Northwest of 3rd Street and Pine Avenue.

The Planning Commission Hearing begins at 5:00pm in the City Council Chambers. The presentation should be at the beginning of the meeting.
Is the public allowed to attend the Planning Commission hearings?
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2007, 8:09 PM
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Create a city that the locals love, and stop catering to outside interests at the expense of us who already live here. You can't expect tourists and other outside business to come into a city that the locals don't even care for. And whoever said building an amusement park outside the villa where people live is insane. We don't need amusement parks and malls to be a great town. We don't want to be Anaheim by the sea. And does anyone want to depend the lowenthal crime family? No town should ever have 3 people of the same family in such high places of power. This is just ridiculous. They suck this town dry of what we have and then raise taxes to bail themselves out of their corruption.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2007, 12:49 AM
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i'm all for building a city/downtown the locals love, which right now most don't. i feel that if we can keep the city from fucking things up even more, we'll be in a good spot.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2007, 3:07 AM
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what was said in that meeting? Were can we check out proposals for DT LB? As a college student I have been in a bubble these two last weeks due to midterms...so please inform us savvy ones!
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2007, 3:51 PM
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i don't think the info is available online anywhere for the 3rd and Pine project. does anyone have any links to it by chance?

it's a pretty good looking development but there are a few issues that concern me. it's a two phase project so the higher, more dense phase won't happen until down the line when the city can absorb it. until then the plan calls for a parking lot along pine, which i think is a bad idea. other then that the architecture is pretty cool but starts to get a little boring when you wrap the whole block in it. the days of developing small sections of the block as opposed to just pieces seems to be over...which is a shame. we should bring back the old style of city development, piece by piece so that you get some variety in styles.

there are a few other concerns but other then that it's a pretty sharp development and it's a lot better then what we normally get.

other feedback came from the city idiots, the nimby's that fight against everything. same people arguing about density and lack of parking/not enough affordable housing. such a tired argument all coming from the same old idiots. the same ones that want downtown to continue being the Iowa by the sea.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2007, 7:39 PM
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Developers Present Plans For Pine Pacific Block

By Thyda Duong
Staff Writer

Last week, Williams Dame & Atkins presented its plans for a mixed-use residential community on the block bounded by Pine and Pacific avenues and 3rd and 4th streets to both the Long Beach Redevelopment Agency (RDA) board and the planning commission.

The presentations were aimed at gathering input from both city officials and community members, whose comments would be considered during the planning process.

Currently referred to as “Pine Pacific Block,” the development would feature a six-story building with 176 residential units and 7,494 square feet of ground-floor retail, and a 13-story structure with 186 residential units and 16,919 square feet of retail.

The development will also include neighborhood-serving retail and open-space patio, subterranean residential parking and a full amenity deck with a lap pool, barbecue grill and picnic areas.

The goal of the project is to create an “urban oasis” in the heart of Downtown Long Beach, said Jim Atkins, a principal with the development company, who noted that the architects will incorporate sustainable design principles and target Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) certification from the U.S. Green Building Council.

Atkins said he expects the environmental impact report to be complete in late 2008, with construction on the first phase of 176 units to begin by early 2009.

The second phase, which will occur on the corner of 3rd Street and Pine Avenue, will be market driven, Atkins said.

“The condo market is a cyclical business. And right now we’re at a tough point in the cycle. It would be tough to sit here today and tell you we’re going to get the project financed on Phase II at a certain, known point in time,” he said. “But having said that, we believe enough in Long Beach that we did close on that portion of property, so we have invested money there at the project site. And we believe the best way to get Phase II financed and ultimately make it economically viable is to complete a successful Phase I.”

One of the concerns brought up during the RDA board meeting was the construction of a street-level parking lot consisting of 56 stalls on Pine Avenue during Phase I.

“Pine’s not going to be enlivened at all by a parking lot, and that does seem to be our commercial thoroughfare,” said RDA Board Chair Thomas Fields. “So it seems to me there’s going to be critical time space between Phase I and Phase II.”

Although Atkins admitted it is not a perfect solution, he noted that developers plan to activate Pine with a kiosk, such as a newspaper stand or an outdoor flower shop, or may work to incorporate open space.

Despite his concerns, Fields noted, “It’s a very nice project and I look forward to seeing it come to fruition.”
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For those interested, which i assume will be all of you, i thought i would share the below announcement i came across. this is part of a new public commenting process the city is initiating, in order to give stakeholders in the area an opportunity to see and comment on proposed developments early on in the project. This project will take up the entire block and it's right in the middle of downtown. Historically you couldn't say much about a project until it was too far down the process. It will be interesting to hear early comments from the planning commission, since this is being presented to them as well as the public. There is no vote, it's basically just a preview.

If you've got opinions, and a lot of us do, i suggest checking it out and making your voice heard if you don't like what you see.


(from the city)
Please note that at this Thursday's (10/18) Planning Commission meeting there will be a presentation of a proposed mixed-use project on the block Northwest of 3rd Street and Pine Avenue.

The Planning Commission Hearing begins at 5:00pm in the City Council Chambers. The presentation should be at the beginning of the meeting.
Interesting i have not been around home lately....anyone get more information on this baby?
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PromenadeIrishmen, if you read the post (i posted) between your recent post and drisee post, you will see "more information on this baby".
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PromenadeIrishmen, if you read the post (i posted) between your recent post and drisee post, you will see "more information on this baby".
got ya i just got out of the dentist this morning was still a bit numb. thanks.
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It's about time somebody told the truth about this town. Sure it hurts at times, but it needs to be said.


http://www.lbreport.com/news/oct07/morrisst.htm
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 11:37 PM
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That was a great article and speech!
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It's about time somebody told the truth about this town. Sure it hurts at times, but it needs to be said.


http://www.lbreport.com/news/oct07/morrisst.htm


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Old Posted Oct 27, 2007, 6:14 AM
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I saw the older pictures of LB downtown with the surf, the beach front and the masses of people. I couldn't believe that was how it looked like before. Long Beach was called "Queen of the Beach" in one of the pictures. How could the City or the people let the port destroy such a great beach? It was a crime. What I don't understand is why the same type of idiots keep getting elected as councilman/woman?
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that was a great speech. many important points were drilled home. the city council definitely seems to work independently of itself with no sense of greater good.

the idea of getting more money for the port is right on. i love how the city seems to hide behind the "rules". like the rule that tideland funds can only be used for certain things. screw that rule. that's what policy makers are for if they had any balls. rethink the rule. create some more budget for the city without having to put in best buys, home depots and walmarts everywhere you can.

rethink long beach and demand some damn quality building for our downtown. bring some damn jobs to the area and diversify the economy.

one idea i don't like is that of the casino by the queen mary. just seems like a short term solution that i would not like to see for our waterfront. i just think of all the crap that comes with it, too high a price to pay for what we get back.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2007, 11:19 PM
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I don't like the casino idea. I would agree on that one. And long beach was once called Coney Island West, but that was along time ago. It's just sad to see a once great city reduced to somewhat of a joke to others. And yes we do have the worst water and air quality in the nation, and we should be very embarrassed. No long beach pride in the quality of our biggest asset. The Beach!

I just tend to put my head down whenever the city tries to promote us as the Aquatics capital of America. I hope none of you guys took that seriously. I really have no answers on what should be done anymore. I have come to the conclusion that i will never see a world class long beach.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2007, 4:29 AM
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Wink Long Beach opinions

If you all dont like how Downtown Long Beach is developing then you all should attend the city meetings more often and speak your minds about why long beach is still the way it is now which still needs a lot of hard work to be a world class city long beach's city planners should start to realize that whatever they are doing for this wonderful city aint going so well i think that the planners should invest into cleaning the waters around the port and beaches so people could have a safe clean place to swim in the future and also find ways to make this city safe like hiring 300 more police officers(I read the long beach report article) so people could change thier reputations about long beach being a dangerous city and new business could be established and more taller office and mixed used buildings could be built in this city. ps to yibs who said long beach wont ever improve i think you should try to keep your head up and be positive about long beach cause it would get better eventually.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2007, 8:36 PM
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i agree regboi21. i'm negative but i'm also trying to help the situation by participating where and when i can. i feel like if i ever lose hope completely i would decide to move at that point. it would suck to live in a place that you hate.

not saying that you should move yibs, but perhaps channel your energy and fight the good fight. from my experience it seems like a lot of people have great ideas but not enough people get involved and share those ideas. so instead of having visionaries share with the city staff...we have the same ol' morons show up at most meetings and complain, like mr. cochran for those that know who that is. it's quite a shame.

if it was up to all the nimbys that talk, long beach would be an undeveloped iowa by the sea, complete with seas of parking available but no good retail, 3 car spaces for every person with shitty public transportation still dominated by the car, affordable and low income housing for everyone and of course it would be accessible by wheelchair. talk about a hip and cool city, where can i sign up!!
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I was looking at the website for 133 Promenade Walk... Any of you know the prices for them? The website does not state any prices for any of the places (as they want you to take a tour)...Anyone live there yet?
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I was looking at the website for 133 Promenade Walk... Any of you know the prices for them? The website does not state any prices for any of the places (as they want you to take a tour)...Anyone live there yet?
CruzGuy i have lived there as of May 2007 they seem to have open house in the display unit witch is located right below mine ever weekend Sa/Sun till about 2:00 PM. the web site really isn't too much of a help you will have to come in and talk to a few of the sales reps as well as an agent from Countrywide Lenders. nice people they would love to show you around there is a one bedroom display unit as well as the two story two bed and bath unit. I have a few pictures of the one bedroom unit if need be.
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reopening of the Jergins Tunnel

I went to the University of the Sea last Sunday, hoping to have a chance to tour the long entombed Jergins tunnel. I was too late and all the tickets were sold out.

In the LBreport.com today, there are talks to reopen the Jergins tunnel. I sincerely hope that they are not going to shelf this treasure. It would be a shame. It is the last of the old pike since they've decided to demolish the remanants of the carousel top at Ocean and Chesnut. I hope they'll preserve and open the tunnel someday. Somehow the City Council has signed away the access rights for the tunnel to the developer. That sounds dumb.
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