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Originally Posted by JM5
Personally, I admit to being afraid of islam. I have known lots of muslims, one I disliked for no other reason than his personality, but most I liked and a number of professors I admired. I do fear though, that at some point a critical mass can be reached if a large enough community builds up and segregates itself. I'm scared of people in Canada freely choosing to submit to Sharia law, creating a parallel legal system. I'm scared of Sharia patrols enforcing their values in predominantly muslim areas.
Maybe this is just a bunch of silly over-hyped bs from the internet. But maybe it's not. I know that they are only seeking the comfort that their culture and their way of life offers them in a place surrounded by different values. This is why I consider the possibility to be real.
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Not many people have the ability to put a finger on their fears with such clarity. If these are the things that you're afraid of, I'd encourage you to search them up to see whether they're founded. I'll caution that it's not only a question of seeing whether they exist
at all (on a planet of 7 billion, pretty much everything's been done at least enough times to fill a few Rebel blog posts), but whether they are
significant. Whenever I see something - even when it confirms my views - I always try to have the presence of mind to ask things like "How often does this happen vs not / now vs before" to be able to gain perspective.
Here's some of my insights:
- Sharia Law is not applied in Canada in any legal sense. From 1991-2005, there was the possibility of resolving a small number of civil (not criminal) cases through a faith-based tribunal if both parties consented to it. It was originally intended for Jewish Ontarians, but the issue became controversial in 2004 when it was determined that the privilege could not be accorded to Jews, but not to Muslims. Soon after, the whole program of faith-based resolution tribunals was scrapped altogether.
Even if it had gone ahead, any and all of the subsequent jugements would have to conform to the Charter. That means no death penalties (or any bodily harm), no gender/religious discrimination, no limits on freedom of expression.
- Ethnic enclaves. It's hard to have a 'Muslim enclave' because the Muslim world is tremendously diverse. A Muslim from Morocco, one from Nigeria, one from Croatia, and one from Indonesia have almost nothing in common - not language, food, music, politics, worldview, etc. They often don't even agree on religion. There is not nearly enough cultural cohesion to create a Richmond-style enclave.
It's like if you had a "Christian enclave" with an Anglican from Ontario, a Catholic from Spain, an Orthodox from Siberia and a Copt from Egypt. You'd have pretty much nothing in common with anyone.