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Old Posted Aug 12, 2014, 6:12 PM
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Rideau Carleton Raceway Casino Expansion | U/C

A follow-on thread to the now way off-topic Downtown Ottawa Casino thread:

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Ottawa's casino plans in the wilderness

David Reevely, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: August 12, 2014, Last Updated: August 12, 2014 12:49 PM EDT


Plans to expand gambling at the Rideau Carleton Raceway are still afoot, the provincial government’s gaming agency insists, though it’s been almost a year since anybody’s talked about it in public.

You remember city council’s whipsawing back and forth on whether it wanted two casinos, one casino or none, before finally settling on a small one at the rural raceway and insisting that was what everybody had supported all along until the perfidious Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. came along and confused them. That was last September.

Months before that, in March 2013, the OLG finished taking submissions from would-be operators of a casino in Ottawa, planning to make up a shortlist of companies that would bid. With city council’s stumblebumming around all that spring and summer, one can understand the agency’s pausing while Ottawa sorted itself out. But they’ve had a list to work from for 17 months and clear limits from council on what they can do here — a few card and roulette tables at the raceway, pretty much — for 11.

“You have to realize, this is the biggest transformation of a government agency in Ontario and it has evolved,” said OLG spokesman Tony Bitonti by email. “We are in the third year of a complex multi-year procurement process that involves dozens of communities across the province, not just Ottawa.”

Indeed it has evolved. Then-premier Dalton McGuinty and his finance minister, Dwight Duncan, were much keener on gambling as a provincial money-maker than Kathleen Wynne and her finance minister, Charles Sousa. An auditor’s report on the OLG’s plans last spring also found that, moral questions aside, the agency’s projections of the billions of dollars gambling could bring in for the government were very optimistic. An additional $1.8 billion over six years is realistic, the auditor found, rather than the $4.6 billion the agency had initially projected.

The OLG has also had to try to work horse racing back into its plans, reversing a strategy that would have moved its operations out of the tracks where its slot machines have been based for years and into sparkly new palaces closer to downtowns.

Ottawa’s early eagerness for a casino, in contrast to Toronto’s reluctance, had put it close to the top of the OLG’s priority list. It was part of the first pair of regions in which the agency wanted to shortlist bidders, along with what it calls an “East” region that includes Kawartha Lakes and Belleville. It’s now been overtaken: The first formal request for proposals (RFP) from a group of shortlisted bidders went out in April, covering the East region alone — even though one for Ottawa’s one location at a race track probably would have been simpler to put together.

Bitonti says we shouldn’t read too much into that. “Factors contributing to the order of RFP releases can include economic factors and contractual readiness of the current sites located within the gaming zone or gaming bundle,” he wrote. “OLG is preparing to issue more RFPs in the coming weeks and months. I don’t have a specific date for the Ottawa RFP.”

He doesn’t say it explicitly, but understandably a roulette wheel and some blackjack tables at the raceway don’t grab the agency’s attention the way a gambling-based entertainment centre in the Market, by the airport or at the Canadian Tire Centre had.

The OLG wanted not just to give people more chances to gamble, but to lead a cultural change in Ontario that would have made gambling a more routine sort of entertainment, so people would drop $50 at a casino as readily as they might buy two movie tickets and some popcorn for an evening out. Gambling had to be normal, something cool young people did.

That’s a much more ambitious project, extending far beyond the gambling industry, and we hadn’t talked about it before the OLG got started. When we got a chance, most of us said no. Adding some table games to the raceway on Albion Road certainly won’t achieve it, and that’s just fine as far as public opinion is concerned.

They’re still coming. Eventually. When the OLG gets to it.

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Brisbin leading Rideau-Carleton’s casino plans: sources
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So basically another Lansdowne...but in a farm field 25 minutes from downtown along a long dark two lane road with 10 foot ditches... I'm still wondering what the 'incentive' was for Watson to kaibosh alternative proposals for an Ottawa casino.
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So basically another Lansdowne...but in a farm field 25 minutes from downtown along a long dark two lane road with 10 foot ditches... I'm still wondering what the 'incentive' was for Watson to kaibosh alternative proposals for an Ottawa casino.
This way the city can literally do nothing, instead of trying to convince an entire community that a casino will be good for them.
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Hmmm... So it seems the idea of putting a major attraction in a non-central location (read; 'far-flung location that is difficult to get to by car or transit') is not limited to the Paladium. We tried west, now we are trying south; do we also have to build something out in Cumberland before the City learns a lesson in planning?

I was wondering a bit why there seemed to be a rush to widen Lester Road between Bank and the Airport Parkway. (I don't believe that it is justified by an expectation of about 6,000 homes south of Lester by 2031; with most of those houses in the Findlay Creek area and driving out to Bank.) But, hey, Lester is the road that would bring people from Bank and the Parkway to Albion so they can get to the casino.
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Looks kind of cool but it is so isolated, in a bad location with horrible connections (through automobile or transit) that I would rather keep the status-quo with the shithole than build this whole renovated complex in the woods.
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Hey, why don't we make a casino spur on the O-Train line!!!!!!!!111!!!
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Hey, why don't we make a casino spur on the O-Train line!!!!!!!!111!!!
You mean thats an option?

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While we are at it why don't we ask Melnyk to build a new NHL arena... on Albion.

And we can get Tanger or another company to build out outlets... on Albion.

Therefore Ottawa will truly have a vibrant and exciting Sports/Entertainment District... in the middle of nowhere ..
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"Hard Rock Casino coming to Ottawa Rideau Carleton Raceway

CTV Ottawa
Published Monday, May 15, 2017 7:06AM EDT
Last Updated Monday, May 15, 2017 7:08AM EDT

CTV News has learned the Hard Rock Casino company is part of the winning bid to expand gaming at Rideau Carleton. The Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation has chosen a partnership bid involving Hard Rock and Rideau Carleton itself.

Rideau Carleton will be renamed Hard Rock Casino Ottawa. It will be a $320 million project that will include a Hard Rock Hotel and Hard Rock Cafe.
The project will create 1,900 new construction jobs and the expansion would mean more slot machines and card table games. Ottawa city council passed a resolution permitting at least 21 card tables. A news conference is scheduled this afternoon to announce more details."


Will be interesting to see how this develops. Its such a rural location, they'll have their work cut out for them to make this an appealing destination.
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Old Posted May 15, 2017, 2:25 PM
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Old Posted May 15, 2017, 4:44 PM
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Rideau Carleton Raceway set to become the Hard Rock Casino Ottawa

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: May 15, 2017 | Last Updated: May 15, 2017 10:54 AM EDT


The Hard Rock franchise is partnering with Rideau Carleton Raceway to transform the horse track, entertainment centre and mini casino.

The companies announced Monday that they could drop up to $320 million on a major revamp of the raceway property after winning a contract from the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. to run the gambling operation at the horse track.

It will be called Hard Rock Casino Ottawa.

The companies say the redevelopment of the property will create 1,900 construction jobs and 2,000 direct and indirect ongoing jobs.

There will be a phased construction, which will include a Hard Rock-branded hotel and entertainment venue, plus a Hard Rock Cafe and Centre Bar and rock shop. There will be more than 13,000 square metres of gaming space.

The announcement was a long time coming, but where the new casino would be built was no surprise.

In 2013, city council declared the Rideau Carleton Raceway as the only acceptable location for an expanded gaming operation. The OLG has been working on a “modernization” plan for the gaming operations at the horse track since 2012.

Gamblers will have to temper their expectations for a Las Vegas-style gaming venue, though.

The city, which gets a cut of gaming revenue at the OLG’s Ottawa facility, wants no more than 21 table games added to the 1,250 slot machines.

However, the development around the gaming operation is also expected to make the raceway a major entertainment destination.

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Cool or slightly exciting (let's be honest the current Casino is old, ugly, dated, and very little people go there; everyone I know prefers the Hilton Lac Leamy).

Still sucks that it's in the middle of nowhere though... Not connected to transit and no one draws in that part of town. Unless they start redevelopping that area with more parking, a cinemas, and some restaurants/stores kind of like a South Keys or Gloucester pt. 6?
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Well this is random. Is it part of the proposed provincial gaming and casino revamp of the McGuinty era? Why did it take this long? And why would Hard Rock invest in this after closing their only Ottawa restaurant in 2013 (and continued to close many others around the Country to this day)?
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Ottawa loves to build cool shit in dumb places. We should set aside a plot at lebreton flats so they can rebuild this place at a better location once they realize what everyone else already knows.
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Hard Rock Ottawa? More like Hard Rock Rideau Carleton.
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Oh yeah, perfect location for a Hard Rock Casino. No problem here.
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Well, it's right next door to a quarry. People might get confused with the different kinds of hard rock
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