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Old Posted Jul 15, 2008, 6:12 AM
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NewToCA: The California State Railroad Museum has put on several "Railfair" events, the first in 1981 when the Museum opened, the second in 1991, the third in 1999. They bring in steam locomotives (many operating) and other historic rail equipment from all over the country. I realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but they do draw a big crowd. And when the RTM opens (hopefully no more than 3-4 years out) all the out-of-town visitors will also get a chance to see what's going on in the rest of the Railyards.
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Got this in the mail today:

Railyards To Richards Workshop
Wednesday, August 27, 5:30-7:30 PM
Library Galleria, 828 I Street

From the look of the flyer, this is a progress report for the public, rather than a "charrette" or anything where any decisions are being made. They're going to talk about road improvements near I-5 and Richards, including expanded interchange off-ramps, expansion of Richards Blvd. and Bercut Drive, and the beginning of "Railyards Boulevard" to connect them under the freeway. Apparenrly they're also going to talk about how the first three phases of the intermodal station will work: track relocation, relocation of light rail, and enhancements to the Sacramento Valley Station.

For more info, contact Linda Tucker, City of Sacramento Department of Transportation, (916)808-7523.
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Are they going to add a new interchange for the railyards?
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Why don't you go and find out?
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Was it not stated before that there was no money budgeted for any sort of freeway access? I thought that was many shots fired at the Railyards Arena idea?
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Is there a real need for freeway access to the railyards? Between J street and Richards Blvd there should be plenty of access.
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So...did anyone make it to the meeting last night?
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So...did anyone make it to the meeting last night?
I haven't noticed much activity in the railyards lately.

I wonder if they've slowed the pace of the cleanup?
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2008, 5:17 AM
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I went, but had to leave just as the presentations were starting. The topic was the first three phases of the intermodal facility and the improvements to the Richards Boulevard off-ramp and nearby streets.

Hinda Chandler, with the city's department of transportation, gave an overview of the intermodal project, pretty much old news for most folks here. The three phases are 1 (track relocation), 2 (existing station/depot improvements) and 3 (intermodal facility.)

Phase 1 got CEQA clearance in 2007, preliminary engineering is being done now. Construction should begin in mid-2009. George Montgomery presented on the track realignment. The new platforms will have upgraded passenger amenities, and a pedestrian walkway and access tunnel will run from the depot to the new platforms. The existing tracks and platforms will be removed.

Phase 2 will begin as soon as the track realignment is done. The current light rail station will be relocated to the east side of the site (running north-south west of 5th Street instead of east-west along H Street.) Local buses will park to the west of the light rail tracks, and the pedestrian underpass/walkway will be improved. The open triangular area created by the track relocation will become a temporary surface parking lot. Some of the current station parking lot will become public plazas and landscaped areas.

Phase 3, the final intermodal station, was presented as two potential scenarios--either move the station or don't. In either case, a parking structure will replace the open parking lot, and the new Greyhound depot will be located on the site: exactly where they go varies based on whether the station moves or not. If the station moves, the space it occupied will be used for potential future joint development, and a triangular covered transit plaza will bridge the space between the depot and the tracks. If the station does not move, a larger terminal extension will be built with a longer concourse that will run from the historic depot to the tracks. In the latter scenario, there will be a pedestrian bridge over the tracks in addition to the tunnel under the tracks.

Phase 2 can start as soon as the tracks are relocated. Phase 3 depends on if/when the city can get the rather significant pile of cash this project would need to be built.

Nader Kamal from the city's Department of Transportation presented the I-5/Richards Blvd. improvements project. The improvements to the Richards Boulevard off-ramp are intended to increase capacity and avoid future bottlenecks at that off-ramp. It will allow the Railyards area to receive traffic from both ends, reducing increased traffic pressure that would otherwise fall onto the already busy J Street on-ramp. In addition to the on-ramps themselves, the project would expand Bercut Drive and Jibboom Street (including bike lanes and enhanced pedestrian walkways.) The two would connect underneath the I-5 bridge via a street that would become the first portion of Railyards Boulevard, the main road through the Railyards project. Project construction would start in fall/winter 2009 and be done by 2010.

More info at http://www.cityofsacramento.org/tran...n/1-5_richards
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Uh, I thought it was pretty much settled that the station would be moved. I can't believe (or can I) we're back here some 5 years later.
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itsmotorsport: The station-move scenario was the preferred scenario a few years ago, but it's not a for-sure thing because there are significant problems with moving the station: not just the engineering of the move, but potential risks to the station's status as a National Register landmark structure, which would make funds like tax credits and grants for building restoration harder to get. There are also other arguments that would favor leaving the station where it is, such as needing extra space and capacity for an HSR line--still not a sure thing, but a lot more likely now than it seemed five years ago.
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I see. Prolong construction/development endlessly for HSR... that we probalby wont get for another 30yrs if we are lucky while we pay for the HSR system to enrich other California cities.

Kind of reminds of the Sunrise Bridge...didnt they add an extra section to it decades ago so light rail could cross it. To this date that section is gated off, no bikes, nor pedestrians can use it; it just sits there so light rail may cross it one day. I'm talking the east side of the Sunrise Bridge. Correct if I'm wrong.
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2008, 6:13 PM
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I see. Prolong construction/development endlessly for HSR... that we probalby wont get for another 30yrs if we are lucky while we pay for the HSR system to enrich other California cities.

Kind of reminds of the Sunrise Bridge...didnt they add an extra section to it decades ago so light rail could cross it. To this date that section is gated off, no bikes, nor pedestrians can use it; it just sits there so light rail may cross it one day. I'm talking the east side of the Sunrise Bridge. Correct if I'm wrong.
Actually the track realignment will include right-of-way space for HSR whether or not the station gets moved. And yeah, it might sit unused for a while, but personally I'd rather have it and not need it than end up having to tear down a chunk of a brand-new intermodal station (or have to move the historic station back out of the way) because we didn't have the forethought to provide space for it.

Who are you suggesting is arguing in favor of delay? The options are still being considered because we literally don't need to decide right now. There is still quite a lot of work to be done, Phase 1 and 2 of the project can both be executed regardless of whether the station moves or not.

The current planning process is to analyze both options more closely, and then decide which scenario is more feasible. I know people here get aggravated about having to do more studies, but sometimes, to be honest, more studies need to be done. Situations change, new information comes to light, and sometimes that requires revisiting one's options. Firm, inflexible decision-making is not a good thing if you end up driving off a cliff!
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The only problem of not knowing which alternative we're going with now is that we all know how long it takes to decide what to do and get started in Sacramento. That's where the delay comment comes from I think.

As for the whole intermodal terminal as a whole, I don't care really if they move the old station or not, just as long as it ends up looking as good as it does in the HSR video.
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Phase 2 can start as soon as the tracks are relocated. Phase 3 depends on if/when the city can get the rather significant pile of cash this project would need to be built.

Don't look for any funds from the HSR bond.

Sacramento has one of the busiest train stations in the nation, but that wont mean squat when they start handing out millions (or this case billions) for new or upgraded intermodal facilities across the state.
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Railyards wins bond cash for 6th Street extension
Sacramento Business Journal

Tuesday, September 2, 2008

The city of Sacramento and The Railyards redevelopment project have been awarded $17.9 million in state Proposition 1B transportation bond funds, representatives for the project announced Tuesday.

The money approved by the California Transportation Commission will be used to extend 6th Street to the north and to construct a pedestrian tunnel at 7th Street. Construction of this portion of the project is slated to begin in 2009.

The award follows approval in July of $47 million for the railyard redevelopment from the California Department of Housing and Community Development's Proposition 1C bond program, the largest such award in the state.

Voters approved both Proposition 1B and 1C in 2006. Prop. 1C authorized $2.85 billion in housing bonds for uses that included creating infrastructure and affordable housing near transit. Prop 1B authorized $20 billion in bonds to finance transportation projects to reduce congestion, ease the movement of goods, improve safety and other purposes.

The 244-acre downtown Sacramento Railyards development, located at the former Union Pacific railyard, is said to be the largest urban infill project in the country. Plans ultimately call for creating a new neghborhood north on downtown Sacramento.

Project developer Thomas Enterprises Inc. commissioned a study that predicts the project will create 19,000 permanent jobs, 2,800 hundred annual construction jobs and result in an ongoing annual positive economic impact of $2.7 billion. Private investment in the project is expected to top $6 billion.

"Both of these grants mean we can continue to move this important project forward, build roads and infrastructure, and open The Railyards to the public within the next few years," said Suheil Totah, vice president of development for Thomas Enterprises.

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By Jim Wasserman - jwasserman@sacbee.com
Published 12:00 am PDT Thursday, September 4, 2008

More than a year after a collapse of two big residential tower projects in downtown Sacramento, a still more ambitious generation of downtown living is coming into view.

Much depends on the economy and other variables in the next 20 to 30 years. But serious plans exist for up to 15,000 residential units north of downtown at the railyard and nearby Township 9.

If all goes as hoped, the first of these homes, condominiums and townhouses may open in a rebounded housing market – and one also shaped by high-priced gasoline that discourages long commutes.

Up to 12,000 residences are planned just north of the existing downtown on the 240-acre railyard. Given favorable conditions, the first projects could rise about 2012.

"We plan on developing housing as part of the first phase," said Suheil Totah, vice president of Atlanta-based Thomas Enterprises, the railyard owner. "But the majority of the housing will be built over years as we create the place and the market begins to justify the high-density and high-rise housing."

Totah said groundbreaking is set for next summer on $200 million worth of infrastructure work that includes new streets and a new rail alignment for Amtrak trains.

Most of the money was secured this year from public sources, including state housing and transportation bonds.

Township 9 plans up to 3,000 residences north of the railyard, between Richards Boulevard and the American River. Demolition of a cannery complex on the 65-acre project will come later this year. The first homes could be rising in mid-2010, said Township 9 Chief Executive Officer Scott Syphax.

Those are likely to be built by Sacramento-based St. Anton Partners. It has a preliminary agreement with Township 9 to build the project's 15 percent share of affordable housing required by the city.

When these thousands of downtown homes do rise, in buildings from six to possibly 25 stories, they'll have to compete with the single-family homes that have long defined life in the region. Besides those in existing suburbs, that includes developments in the Sunrise-Douglas corridor of Rancho Cordova, open spaces in Elk Grove, Lincoln and, when the levees are eventually updated, Natomas.

But downtown will compete over the long run, said Dean Wehrli, a Sacramento-based vice president of Sullivan Group Real Estate Advisors.

Wehrli holds that sentiment despite the demise last year of two Capitol Mall condominium projects – the 39-story Aura tower and the twin 53- story Towers project with 800 residential units. Both died for lack of adequate financing, though Towers did sell reservations for 402 condos and Aura 196 out of 268.

"It's a 30-year time frame," Wehrli said. "The Aura and the Towers proved there was a lot of demand for that. You had older couples, the dual-income-no-kids. … There's quite a bit of that in Sacramento and they work downtown. I would be fairly bullish about the housing."

Kathryn Boyce, a Sacramento-based analyst with Hanley Wood Market Intelligence, said a 25-year build-out means about 480 sales a year: "There will probably be 10 builders in the project, and that's 40 houses sold a month. Four houses a month is a normal market for any builder."

That's what the railyard and Township 9 are banking on. Both paint colorful portraits of areas featuring entertainment, retail stores and workplaces. But at the core is housing for people who crave a downtown lifestyle and don't want to drive.

The railyard, especially, will buck the suburban pattern of building homes first, followed later by stores, offices and restaurants. The railyard will do the opposite: provide a lively ambience that will then attract housing.

"The idea is to put this place on everyone's cognitive map," said Richard Rich, railyard development director. That means creating a destination that people in Davis, Roseville or elsewhere think of when they ask each other, "Where do you want to go?"

On a recent tour of the site, Totah and Rich talked up plans for a farmers marketplace in an old railroad shop. The industrial buildings offer landscapes for plazas and walkways, for entertainment and people watching in an authentic historic setting.

"That's what this site has that no other has," said Rich.

Totah said housing should follow as it has in San Diego's historic Gaslamp Quarter.

"You have the amenities, and the housing started to be built over the years. Then the high-rise housing became very successful," he said.

But Totah tried to steer the focus off expectations of 12,000 mid- or high-rise homes. A large number fuels skepticism in a region that develops along suburban lines.

"If you are focused on the full build-out plan, it becomes hard to imagine," he said. "That's how we approach it, and we've been successful thus far. … All we know is what we're working on right now."





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Man I wish they could push up the start of construction from summer of next year.
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The track needs to be relocated before they can start building roads over or under the track.
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Thousands of new residences seen at downtown Sacramento railyard project
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Published 12:00 am PDT Thursday, September 4, 2008

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Up to 12,000 residences are planned just north of the existing downtown on the 240-acre railyard. Given favorable conditions, the first projects could rise about 2012.

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Totah said groundbreaking is set for next summer on $200 million worth of infrastructure work that includes new streets and a new rail alignment for Amtrak trains.

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Township 9 plans up to 3,000 residences north of the railyard, between Richards Boulevard and the American River. Demolition of a cannery complex on the 65-acre project will come later this year. The first homes could be rising in mid-2010, said Township 9 Chief Executive Officer Scott Syphax.

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pardon the ignorance, but is this really the time-line? the article seems to make it sound that major construction wont be happening anytime soon.

is there gonna be actual 'groundbreaking'? (itsmotorsport, maybe u know)
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