Maricopa County Added Over 222 People Per Day in 2016, More Than Any Other County

[JManc]

Originally Posted by PhillyRising

Philadelphia should have the Trenton/Mercer County area in it being only a short ride away but because of the way they determine the areas...it's part of New York's MSA despite being in the Philadelphia TV market.

I never understood the giddiness on here of area's passing someone. So Miami has more people than Philadelphia. Big deal. It doesn't make Philadelphia any less relevant in this wold.
I don't mind that we grow slowly. We couldn't handle a huge onslaught of new residents. Our highway system is gridlock enough. The city could use more people and redevelopment but our suburbs are at teh point it might be faster to walk as bad as the traffic can be on many arterial roads.

Me neither. To me it's quality over quantity any day and Philly has no shortage in the quality department.

[IMBY]

Originally Posted by The North One

Most of the habitation in the southwest is unsustainable.

I think people are fools for moving there, all this is going to come crashing down in the next century. Their grandchildren will deal with a significant burden.

Always remember, water will always arise to $$$$!

Desperate, willing to pay for price, they can always dust off that NWAPA project up in British Columbia, which would create a reservoir 100 miles long, with enough water gushing south to even green up northern Mexico!

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by IMBY

Always remember, water will always arise to $$$$!

Desperate, willing to pay for price, they can always dust off that NWAPA project up in British Columbia, which would create a reservoir 100 miles long, with enough water gushing south to even green up northern Mexico!

Water is an irreplaceable natural asset that feeds rivers, ground water, sustains wildlife/vegetation, maintains a lush landscape, and makes places with it desirable to live in/desirable to visit. No sane people are going to jeopardize all of that because people in a distant desert are thirsty.

Bulk water exports will never ever happen for any price. Diversion of Great Lakes water is illegal and efforts to do it from BC would never see the light of day because water is exempted in any free trade agreement we sign. If you want water, businesses and people should move to where it exists (BC). We're certainly not going to export our built in natural advantage/wreck our country because people in Nevada throw some dollars at us.

[Leo the Dog]

Many predictions about future wars/conflict center around access to water. With that said, as important as water is to the West, Maricopa County has ample water supplies. The most recent drought that plagued CA (which was quite gnarly, brown lawns etc), as far as I know, metro Phoenix didn't have to enact water restrictions, unlike much of SoCal.

[Private Dick]

Originally Posted by dave8721

They are about the same but that includes vast unpopulated areas of the Everglades. In actual populated area Miami's is footprint is actually quite a bit smaller. For example Philadelphia's urban area is geographically 60% larger than Miami's yet they have basically identical populations.

You can't really compare the two as cities or metro areas with rather arbitrary lines. In the real world, there is no doubt that Philadelphia is the bigger city and has a larger metropolitan area that it serves as the hub of.

Philadelphia serves as a major hub city for SE PA, southern NJ, northern Delaware and it is also interconnected with the NYC metro area.

Miami is one of the nodes on a long, north-south, narrow linear strip of dense, multi-nodal urbanized (suburban) development; with the major nodes all serving as the central hub for the nearby environs in the strip. Miami does not serve as the hub for West Palm Beach, nor Boca, nor even Fort Lauderdale. Miami is the largest city in the South Florida area, but it's far from the center of it. Because there is no center of it.

[Private Dick]

Originally Posted by PhillyRising

So Miami has more people than Philadelphia.

It doesn't. You could say all of South Florida does, but so what? Should Philadelphia's metro then include the linear path of New Jersey from Trenton all the way up to Jersey City?

Originally Posted by dave8721

They are about the same but that includes vast unpopulated areas of the Everglades. In actual populated area Miami's is footprint is actually quite a bit smaller. For example Philadelphia's urban area is geographically 60% larger than Miami's yet they have basically identical populations.

From Jupiter to Homestead is about the same distance as Wilmington to Manhattan. Jupiter to Miami is 85 miles... Philly to Manhattan is 80 miles.

Think about it.

[L41A]

Originally Posted by Private Dick

You can't really compare the two as cities or metro areas with rather arbitrary lines. In the real world, there is no doubt that Philadelphia is the bigger city and has a larger metropolitan area that it serves as the hub of.

Philadelphia serves as a major hub city for SE PA, southern NJ, northern Delaware and it is also interconnected with the NYC metro area.

Miami is one of the nodes on a long, north-south, narrow linear strip of dense, multi-nodal urbanized (suburban) development; with the major nodes all serving as the central hub for the nearby environs in the strip. Miami does not serve as the hub for West Palm Beach, nor Boca, nor even Fort Lauderdale. Miami is the largest city in the South Florida area, but it's far from the center of it. Because there is no center of it.

Totally agree with your description of the SE Florida MSA aka Miami by some.