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Here's another view of the mile long wharf.


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Here's a great photo I found on ebay of the Iris Theater 6508 Hollywood Boulevard. Be sure to PAN right--->





below: Here's a description from http://cinematreasures.org/





below: Notice the line of movie posters behind the car.


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below: The building also included the Iris Candy Shop.


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One last view.


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The redesigned Iris Theater by S. Charles Lee circa 1934


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below: The marquee is more elaborate than the one in the previous photo.


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The Iris Theater can be seen on the right. The marquee is different again, this time with the word Iris.
The roofline is now straight across (compare with the last two photos in the previous post).


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below: The candy counter at the Iris Theater in 1946. Notice the beautiful Iris floral arrangement (and all that delicious popcorn!)


http://www.oscars.org/features/movie...rn-origin.html


The triptych like candy counter has side panels that close over the central candy area when not in use.
It also appears to be refrigerated, or at least climate controlled.


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I just found this beautiful 'noirish' photograph showing the Iris Theater.


http://cinematreasures.org/

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A woman looking over the bath fixtures at May Co. Department Store, 8th and Broadway, July 1933.


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Here's a great photo I found on ebay of the Iris Theater 6508 Hollywood Boulevard. Be sure to PAN right--->

Is this really the same building? It's the same address.



What's wrong with people? That was a beautiful facade. I wonder if there is anything salvageable behind the present one. Are we still making these same mistakes now?
I understand the driving need in the past to look "modern" and "progressive", "cutting edge" "prosperous" etc in order to draw well-heeled and maybe younger audiences. At some point that concept falls flat once a building loses it's soul.
Notice how the building was styled after classic ancient architecture to begin with. Now what is it? 50's Kitsch. I suppose there's a certain charm in that too....

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http://viewlinerltd.blogspot.com/201...e-railway.html

Mt Lowe has come up again. I highly recommend making the hike to the top. There's a good switch-back hiking trail to the top beginning at the end of Lake St in Altadena plus a stupid-easy fire road to the top beginning in Millard Canyon which if continued up the mountain takes you along the old railway bed (fire road now) all the way to where the Alpine Tavern was up on Mt Lowe. Some tell-tale foundations still remain there as well. There's still plenty of magic in that place. It's a step back in time for sure.
I lived in Sierra Madre for a couple of years and became quite obsessed with San Gabriel Mountain history and lore even to the point of sluicing about 1/2 oz of gold out of the East Fork river over many, many outings. I don't recommend it for profit.

I once hiked straight up the side of the mountain out of Rubio Canyon that was once the path of Echo Mountain's funicular shown in the 1st photo. There's still some concrete footings for the platform in the bottom of the canyon but they're crumbling fast. It was tough, it was steep and there was no trail getting to the top.
I did find some artifacts, railroad spikes etc along the way.
The most interesting and most disturbing (in hindsight) artifact I found was a small, deflated common helium balloon with a note attached to it requesting the finder to please contact some local school's 5th grade class and declare it's location. At that time I was going through some really difficult personal stuff and I never followed up and quickly lost the note. I wall always regret that loss of a perfect teaching opportunity.

Here's a Google snap of the incline now. I hope you can make out the resemblance.


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Perhaps Mr. BifRayRock could take the weekend off...and let some others post...just a thought...


Sorry my posts failed to satisfy your standards. Equally unaware that my keyboard somehow prevented others from posting on your board.

Do all posts require your prior approval, or only weekend posts?

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One topic I've had in mind has been Barney's Beanery in West Hollywood. Barney's began in Berkeley, but in 1927 moved to its current location at 8446 Santa Monica Blvd. (once a part of Route 66).
. . . . .

Barney's in 1949

http://www.hollywoodhistoricphotos.com/

Barney's today

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Barney's as seen through the eyes of R. Crumb on the Janis Joplin Cheap Thrills album cover
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The Barney's discussion brought to mind many stories of the area first known as the town of "Sherman." I am also reminded of a business once known as Bailey's and later J.Sloan's that functioned for 83 years on Melrose not that far from Barney's. Because it had opened in 1919, it was exempted from many local Ordinances.*

Haven't noticed this picture posted here, it is a ca. '31, shot of Santa Monica Blvd. and the Sherman area, which probably contains both Barney's and the business formerly known as J.Sloans. In the vicinity of the train yard would be the Pacific Design Center and related structures. (Too bad it doesn't include La Cienega's middle-of-the-road oil derrick.)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu

http://www.facebook.com http://www.google.com

Another shot of the Rexall Drug Store, Beverly and La Cienega ca. ~ '47 http://pleasantfamilyshopping.blogspot.com/


*"J. Sloans was exempt from the normal requirement of 25 parking spaces for a bar where dancing is permitted. But then, J. Sloans was exempt from plenty of restrictions placed on other bars.

"Because it opened in 1919 and predated the Alcoholic Beverage [Control Board], it was grandfathered in," Galindo explained Friday as he sat at a table in the bar and accepted condolences from a steady stream of customers.

"It's the only license of its kind in Los Angeles. I can sell beer to go. I can have naked bartenders. I don't, of course. But I can do things that other bars can't, if I want to."

J. Sloans had an outlaw image when it opened. Prohibition was looming, so its first owner picked a spot well outside what were then Los Angeles city limits, figuring authorities wouldn't bother enforcing the national ban on alcoholic beverages there." http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar...al/me-oldbar30

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Is this really the same building? It's the same address.





What's wrong with people? That was a beautiful facade. I wonder if there is anything salvageable behind the present one.
Are we still making these same mistakes now?
I understand the driving need in the past to look "modern" and "progressive", "cutting edge" "prosperous" etc in order to draw well-heeled and maybe younger audiences.
At some point that concept falls flat once a building loses it's soul.
Notice how the building was styled after classic ancient architecture to begin with.
Now what is it? 50's Kitsch. I suppose there's a certain charm in that too....
Sadly, you're correct fhammon....this is the same building (kinda hurts doesn't it).


http://cinematreasures.org/





http://cinematreasures.org/






below: I believe this area (this design is tasteful, unlike the tacked on facade) has now changed as well.


http://cinematreasures.org/




This is the theater where x-rated 'Fritz the Cat' played for 10 years!!


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The Barney's discussion brought to mind many stories of the area first known as the town of "Sherman." I am also reminded of a business once known as Bailey's and later J.Sloan's that functioned for 83 years on Melrose not that far from Barney's. Because it had opened in 1919, it was exempted from many local Ordinances.*

Haven't noticed this picture posted here, it is a ca. '31, pre-Volstead shot of Santa Monica Blvd. and the Sherman area, which probably contains both Barney's and the business formerly known as J.Sloans. In the vicinity of the train yard would be the Pacific Design Center and related structures. (Too bad it doesn't include La Cienega's middle-of-the-road oil derrick.)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu

http://www.facebook.com http://www.google.com

Another shot of the Rexall Drug Store, Beverly and La Cienega ca. ~ '47 http://pleasantfamilyshopping.blogspot.com/


*"J. Sloans was exempt from the normal requirement of 25 parking spaces for a bar where dancing is permitted. But then, J. Sloans was exempt from plenty of restrictions placed on other bars.

"Because it opened in 1919 and predated the Alcoholic Beverage [Control Board], it was grandfathered in," Galindo explained Friday as he sat at a table in the bar and accepted condolences from a steady stream of customers.

"It's the only license of its kind in Los Angeles. I can sell beer to go. I can have naked bartenders. I don't, of course. But I can do things that other bars can't, if I want to."

J. Sloans had an outlaw image when it opened. Prohibition was looming, so its first owner picked a spot well outside what were then Los Angeles city limits, figuring authorities wouldn't bother enforcing the national ban on alcoholic beverages there." http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar...al/me-oldbar30
In the picture of WeHo, what was that rail yard? It looks like it might have been a passenger depot of some kind or other.
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Sorry my posts failed to satisfy your standards. Equally unaware that my keyboard somehow prevented others from posting on your board.

Do all posts require your prior approval, or only weekend posts?

Have a wonderful day.

Bif...I apologize for my remarks about your large posts...was having a bad day...Oh, not sure what kind of keyboard you have but I'm sure it does not prevent others from posting...I'm not sure where you thought that posts need prior approval...and you have a wonderful day as well.
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Haven't noticed this picture posted here, it is a ca. '31, pre-Volstead shot of Santa Monica Blvd. and the Sherman area, which probably contains both Barney's and the business formerly known as J.Sloans. In the vicinity of the train yard would be the Pacific Design Center and related structures. (Too bad it doesn't include La Cienega's middle-of-the-road oil derrick.)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu


It also includes my old bungalow on Hancock Ave. (circled in red)



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In the picture of WeHo, what was that rail yard? It looks like it might have been a passenger depot of some kind or other.



http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...came-weho.html




http://gogonotes.blogspot.com/2008/1...wood-site.html




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was having a bad day...
Didn't want to unknowingly step on anyone's toes. Thought you were referencing the subject matter rather than the size of the posts.

All is good.


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Same general vicinity as above (Santa Monica Blvd. + Holloway - Town of Sherman ca. '22 compared with ca. '31 (Obviously a lot of changes in a few short years):

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu

As touched upon by article on J.Sloans, this area was evidently poorly policed when it came to enforcement of Prohibition. From what I have been told, they didn't even call them speakeasies on this [wild]side of town.


http://jpg1.lapl.org

Lucey's 5444 Melrose (193?) "Lucey's Restaurant, owned by Antonio Luciano, who went by the nickname Tony Lucey (hence the name "Lucey's" Restaurant), first opened its doors in the 1920s as a place to wet your whistle during prohibition."
http://jpg1.lapl.org


Mary Pickford "christens" Transcontinental Air Transport’s “City of Los Angeles” with a bottle of grape juice (during Prohibition), July 8, 1929 http://nprfreshair.tumblr.com

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It seems you went back and deleted all your old posts. Please don't allow a jackass with no manners to ruin a great thread. We appreciate everything people put in, regardless of what rbpjr says. Personally, I'm thrilled when I see there's three or four new pages since the last time I checked. Keep up the great work people! I'm still working on my 3D model of L.A. with a time slider to show the great old buildings in their original environment and you all are a great resource. Bif, could you please put back all your deleted posts?
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It seems you went back and deleted all your old posts. Please don't allow a jackass with no manners to ruin a great thread. We appreciate everything people put in, regardless of what rbpjr says. Personally, I'm thrilled when I see there's three or four new pages since the last time I checked. Keep up the great work people!
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I'm still working on my 3D model of L.A. with a time slider to show the great old buildings in their original environment and you all are a great resource. Bif, could you please put back all your deleted posts?
Great project! What's the time span going to be? How far back? What area? Downtown?
I have a personal obsession with L.A. from 1850 - 1890

I'm a big fan of the books by Harris Newmark and Horace Bell
I wish somebody would make a movie or TV series about Los Angeles in the mid to late 1800s.
It was a lot more interesting and often a lot more dangerous than Deadwood ever was.

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Could you please put back all your deleted posts?
Respectfully, I don't think my posts were particularly memorable and I suppose it is easy to be over-enthusiastic about certain subjects and get too far from the noir realm. But when you put it the way you have, it's hard to refuse.

As long as it is understood that noir can have a little chromatic color creep with 5247 and 5248 Kodak negative stock . . . all is well.

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