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Also, who is paying for it?
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ok, aside from the architecture, what exactly is this building for? is this for city offices? psu? something else? i skimmed thru the article twice and didn't see anything about its function, other than that it would "showcase Portland’s leadership in sustainable design".
What more do you need?

Actually I believe it is for part of the Office of Sustainable Development, and office space for a number of partnering green-centered businesses, as well as classroom/education space for PSU, U of O, and OSU. They also mentioned some residential. And retail. And a cherry on top. (Or a wind turbine)
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Also, who is paying for it?
The State supposedly has $80+ million to contribute. Presumably the City and University Systems would kick in too. The scary thing is that rough numbers indicate an assumption of around $200/square foot. A real "living building" will spend that much on its mechanical systems alone.
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The scary thing is that rough numbers indicate an assumption of around $200/square foot. A real "living building" will spend that much on its mechanical systems alone.
Based on?

OHSU spent about 2% more on its health and healing services building over code to hit LEED Platinum.


This study by the Cascade Green Building Council indicates that the cost for a mid rise office is roughly $263/sq ft, while a university classroom is closer to $338/sq ft. Put together by a group including Sera and Skanska. (hard costs)
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Based on?

OHSU spent about 2% more on its health and healing services building over code to hit LEED Platinum.


This study by the Cascade Green Building Council indicates that the cost for a mid rise office is roughly $263/sq ft, while a university classroom is closer to $338/sq ft. Put together by a group including Sera and Skanska. (hard costs)
A platinum building is a far cry from a living building. Living buildings make their own energy (all of it) and produce no waste (none of it). So imagine taking utility fees for the life of a building and being smart about it and paying for it up front in systems that handle the utilities for you - geothermal, wind, solar, bioreactors, water treatment facilities on site, the works. Definitely a great goal and what we should do for the health of our planet...it just has a lot of up front costs and cannot be done for $200/sf. I bet Busby and Behnisch and FXFOWLE would tell you the same thing. Plus this is more of a university building than a spec office building, so their budget is already unrealistic for just a base design. That's good ol' PDC for you. Big Appetite, little wallet.

If you haven't read the Living Building Challenge, I urge you to. LEED is a joke compared to it. Good luck Gerding, and I mean that.
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http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/...20447677906100

The Greenest of the Green?
State, city leaders push to build the word’s most sustainable building

By Jim Redden

The Portland Tribune, Mar 5, 2009

State and city leaders are planning to construct the greenest building in the world near Portland State University — even though it may cost far more than the most enviromentally friendly building ever built anywhere so far, at least in the short run.

The Sustainability Center of Excellence is envisioned as a symbol of the region’s leadership on environmental issues. The possible 12-story, 240,000-square-foot building is being pushed by Gov. Ted Kulongoski and Portland Mayor Sam Adams as a permanent home for a wide range of public agencies, private businesses and nonprofit organizations dedicated to sustainable development.

“The Portland area is the leader on green issues, and this building will help us keep that edge,” said Adams, who is working with the Oregon University System and Portland Development Commission on the project.

The PDC is expected to select the design team soon and could approve the project as early as this summer. But whether the project will pencil out remains to me seen.

Kulongoski is asking the 2009 Oregon Legislature for $80 million in higher education bonding authority to construct the building. No one knows whether that will be enough for the building, however, or where any additional money will come from if the estimated costs are higher.

The problem is, no one has ever built such a building before. Plans call for it to be a so-called “living building,” a radical concept that — among other things — calls for the building to generate all of its own electricity, collect all of its water from rain and existing aquifers and recycle all of its waste water and sewage.

Some studies already suggest such a building could cost 12 percent to 52 percent more than the most environmentally advanced building being built today — those certified as LEEDS Platinum by the U.S. Green Building Council, the national nonprofit organization that developed the Leadership in Energy & Design Green Building Rating System used to rate sustainable buildings.

Adams said the project is worth pursuing, even if the initial costs are higher than conventional or even current sustainable buildings. According to Adams, the higher costs should be offset by energy and other savings over the life of the building.

“When Oregon and the region first adopted its land-use planning system, there were people who said that wouldn’t be affordable, either,” said Adams. “But they were proven wrong, and now the land-use system is one of our big draws.”

A consortium of 16 local environment-oriented organizations also supports the project. Most if not all of the members of the Living Building Initiative hope to move into the building once it is finished.

“We are committing to 10-year leases and some purchases, like condominiums,” said Andrea Durbin, executive director of the Oregon Environmental Council, one of the member organizations.

Durbin also believes the potentially high construction costs are worth it.

“You have to take a long-range view of the project,” she said.

Other members include 1000 Friends of Oregon, the Coalition for a Livable Future, the; Energy Trust of Oregon, Friends of the Columbia Gorge, Green Building Services; and the Oregon Environmental Council.

Another expected tenant is the Portland + Oregon Sustainability Institute, a new initiative led by Adams and Commissioner Dan Saltzman to promote sustainable development and business practices.

“The building is intended to be the physical manifestation of our strategy to keep the Portland region a leader in the sustainability field,” said institute Director Rob Bennett, who works for the Portland office of Sustainable Development.

PDC solicited bids for a feasibility study for the project in January. The study will show whether such a “living building” can be built on a PDC-owned parcel of land at Southwest Montgomery Street and Fifth Avenue.

Four teams presented their qualifications to participate in the study at a packed meeting in the Portland City Council chambers on Feb. 26. The group includes both local and out-of-town firms.

The PDC chose the one comprised of Gerding Edlen Development, SERA Architects and GBD Architects.

The PDC will now negotiate a contract for the study with the team. A decision on whether to proceed with the project will be made in June.

The living building concept was developed by the Cascadia Region Green Building Council, the regional chapter of the U.S. Green Building Council. The chapter — which has a Portland office and stretches from Oregon though British Columbia to Alaska — developed what it calls the Living Building Challenge as deliberate attempt to raise the bar for sustainable developments above the LEEDS standards.

The challenge requirements are included in the PDC’s study request. They cover everything from the kind of site where a structure can be built to acceptable construction materials to energy, water and sewer use.

The challenge was unveiled in 2006 at Greenbuild, an international gathering of public agencies, architects, developers and others interested in sustainable building practices held in Denver. Although dozens of people and businesses around the world have started working on projects since then, none has been completed, in part because the requirements are so high.

“This is a young project, and we still have a lot to learn,” said Eden Brukman, the Cascade Region Green Building Council’s research director.

Three other living building projects have been proposed in Portland, including an apartment building in North Portland, a community center in North Portland, and a house in Southeast Portland. The apartment building and house projects have been delayed; the community center is still in the planning phase.

Brukman is confident that someone will complete a building that complies with the Living Building requirements in the foreseeable future.

“This is supposed to be a challenge, not an impossible,” she said.
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Gragg has it right IMO. One more missed opportunity for Portland. The up side of playing it safe most of the time, I guess, is that we get to avoid the embarrassing failures that plague other cities like, say, Seattle. Then again, I guess we have the Graves city building...
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A platinum building is a far cry from a living building. Living buildings make their own energy (all of it) and produce no waste (none of it). So imagine taking utility fees for the life of a building and being smart about it and paying for it up front in systems that handle the utilities for you - geothermal, wind, solar, bioreactors, water treatment facilities on site, the works. Definitely a great goal and what we should do for the health of our planet...it just has a lot of up front costs and cannot be done for $200/sf. I bet Busby and Behnisch and FXFOWLE would tell you the same thing. Plus this is more of a university building than a spec office building, so their budget is already unrealistic for just a base design. That's good ol' PDC for you. Big Appetite, little wallet.

If you haven't read the Living Building Challenge, I urge you to. LEED is a joke compared to it. Good luck Gerding, and I mean that.
I HAVE read it. My link above also points to a LIVING BUILDING cost estimation.

You're right that it would cost money. At the same time, from what I've read, construction costs for high rises have been hovering between $250-$350+/sq ft? According to you, that would make a living building cost between $450-$550/sq ft, which is contrary to the study in the link.

But a lot higher than your claim that the project must be $200/sq ft. For which you have no cited references?
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Gerding Edlen, GBD and SERA win Sustainability Center job (updated)


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I HAVE read it. My link above also points to a LIVING BUILDING cost estimation.

You're right that it would cost money. At the same time, from what I've read, construction costs for high rises have been hovering between $250-$350+/sq ft? According to you, that would make a living building cost between $450-$550/sq ft, which is contrary to the study in the link.

But a lot higher than your claim that the project must be $200/sq ft. For which you have no cited references?
$80,000,000 budget divided by 240,000 square feet equals $333/sf.

Take out typical soft costs and you're at $200/sf for construction cost, which is what you are referring to.
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I HAVE read it. My link above also points to a LIVING BUILDING cost estimation.

You're right that it would cost money. At the same time, from what I've read, construction costs for high rises have been hovering between $250-$350+/sq ft? According to you, that would make a living building cost between $450-$550/sq ft, which is contrary to the study in the link.

But a lot higher than your claim that the project must be $200/sq ft. For which you have no cited references?
And even the link you sent says AFTER INCENTIVES a living building costs an additional $146/sq ft construction cost! Plus the assumptions of initial costs in that study are dubious at best. Typical Cascadia propaganda. We need to be more green, but we have to be realistic and truthful.
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Ethos Project Management Selected Subcontractors and Partners: Behnisch Architects, Brightworks and Regenesis Group (sustainability consulting), Transsolar Climate Engineering (envelopes), PAE Consulting Engineers, LUMA Lighting Design, MKA (structural engineering), United Fund Advisors (development), Davis Langdon (development and cost estimation) Strengths • Represented by the strongest architectural designer of any other finalist proposers (Behnisch Architects) • Most likely to yield world-class design that will inspire and promote local sustainable talent and innovation in the global marketplace

Why weren't they chosen then? I thought the entire point of the sustainability center is to have something that sets an example for the rest of the green building movement.


Sure, GBD, Sera and G/E know LEED like the back of their hand, but... the above analysis from the PDC speaks for itself.

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pdc said, "Of all of the finalists, the Committee believed that Ethos Project Management offered the greatest risk for the greatest reward. While the Committee had little doubt of Stefan Behnisch’s brilliant and world-class architectural design, the Committee was concerned by the team’s coordination and rapport during the interview, the strength and size of the development team and their lack of joint working experience on quickly-moving complicated projects such as the Oregon Sustainability Center project"
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pdc said, "Of all of the finalists, the Committee believed that Ethos Project Management offered the greatest risk for the greatest reward. While the Committee had little doubt of Stefan Behnisch’s brilliant and world-class architectural design, the Committee was concerned by the team’s coordination and rapport during the interview, the strength and size of the development team and their lack of joint working experience on quickly-moving complicated projects such as the Oregon Sustainability Center project"
The PDC always says that. Remember the Burnside Bridgehead project? Picking a "proven" team doesn't mean that they are, in fact, the best choice. Or the most reliable choice.

I think we need to be striving for the best we can get. This ain't no infrastructure project, after all - the strength will be in its design. Considering the funding is already there for this project, its going to have a lot lower risk than the BBH project did.
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Sustainable building plans greenest of green
by Dylan Rivera, The Oregonian
Tuesday March 24, 2009, 9:02 PM
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To solidify Oregon's reputation as the center of all things environmentally sound, Portland may soon be home to the greenest large building in the world.

More than a dozen businesses, nonprofits and universities are working with the Oregon University System to create the Oregon Sustainability Center, a high-rise office building near Portland State University that would showcase the region's expertise in developing and designing earth-friendly buildings.

"This is like building a green stake in the ground in Portland," said Jay Kenton, vice chancellor of the Oregon University System. "We're going to do something no one else has done. It's going to brand us as a leader in many ways in doing that."

Backers intend for the building to meet the highest environmental standard devised in the world, the Living Building Challenge. An amalgam of audacious goals, the Living Building Challenge exceeds the highest standards that are gaining industry acceptance.

More than a look-at-me demonstration, the building's first purpose would be to draw visitors from the U.S. and the around the world to learn about green building practices and to find Oregon-based companies to hire.

Backers say the center would also function as a technology incubator where university researchers test new ways to make buildings with the lightest possible environmental footprint. The center would meet its own energy needs on-site with renewable power and use locally produced nontoxic building materials.
Such a monument to low impact would come at a steep price: $80 million to start. How the project would be funded, or how much it would rely on taxpayers, is not certain.

No date has been set for construction to begin.

Organizers say the building's tenants would pay the bulk of the costs. By this summer, a feasibility study will outline what it will take to make the vision reality. State energy efficiency tax credits and urban renewal money are potential sources to help meet the added costs that often come with experimental buildings.

Gov. Ted Kulongoski and Portland Mayor Sam Adams are pushing for the center and consider it part of their economic development strategies. Kulongoski included $80 million in the budget in higher education revenue bonds -- to be paid back by the businesses and nonprofits that occupy the building.

"I think this is the future," Kulongoski said last week. "More and more, as people learn about the issue of climate change, they'll realize that Portland is the center of sustainability."

With growing international attention on climate change, the American Institute of Architects has pointed to buildings as leading contributors to greenhouse gas emissions. Commercial, residential and industrial buildings account for nearly half of the nation's energy consumption.

Meanwhile, Oregon-based architects and developers have designed many celebrated earth-friendly buildings. The Portland region has the highest concentration in the U.S. of real estate professionals and buildings certified under the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design standard, the most recognized green building standard in commercial real estate.

The idea of a sustainability center hatched in the minds of several people over at least three years.

Sean Penrith, executive director of Earth Advantage Inc., decided three years ago that his nonprofit should be housed in an urban building that shows off the cutting edge of green design.

"The biggest thing we have to overcome is the perception that the boundaries that we need to go beyond are always impossible," Penrith said.

Penrith found Andrea Durbin, executive director of the Oregon Environmental Council, pursuing a similar concept. Last year they met with Kenton, who was also dreaming about a sustainability-focused center for academic research.

"Sustainability is kind of this emerging science," Kenton said. "Why couldn't we be the first in the country to get a national sustainability research center?"

The sustainability center could encompass 250,000 square feet, mostly for businesses and nonprofits, but also space for a half-dozen state university and city offices.

Penrith and Durbin now lead the Oregon Living Building Initiative, a consortium of mainly environmental organizations that are starting to raise money for their portion of space in the building.

The Portland Development Commission is handling the real estate side of the project. The agency has offered a three-quarters of a block tract it owns at Southwest Fourth Avenue and Montgomery Street. The site abuts the new MAX light rail line and must incorporate a long-planned extension of the Portland Streetcar through the property.

When the PDC sought developers to study the project's feasibility, with the chance of constructing it in the end, the agency received 11 proposals, from as far away as Germany. Winning was a team that included Gerding Edlen Development, Hoffman Construction and an unusual joint effort by two local architecture firms and three local engineering firms.

Jason F. McLennan, the Seattle-based chief executive of the Cascadia Region Green Building Council, dreamed up the Living Building Challenge and counts about 60 building projects that may attempt to meet it.

None are close to the scale Portland envisions.

"It's international-level leadership," McLennan said. "So let's hope they succeed."

--Dylan Rivera
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I didn't realize the streetcar would run through this property. Very nice. I'm assuming it would be the same concept as the urban planning building at PSU.
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I didn't realize the streetcar would run through this property. Very nice. I'm assuming it would be the same concept as the urban planning building at PSU.
Yes. This new block was part of the masterplanning that resulted in the Urban Studies block.
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Did anyone one here attend this?

Sustainability Center open house today
The public and the press and invited to attend an informal open house on the Oregon Sustainability Center, Friday, April 10 from 4 pm - 6 pm. The open house will be held at Gerding Edlen Development's offices in the Brewery Blocks at 1120 NW Couch Street, Sixth Floor.

The open house is the culmination of a week-long series of workshops and technical design sessions held April 6-10 to explore the vision for the Center as well as its more technical aspects: programming, energy, water use, the building envelope and materials. The Center’s development team and public sponsors will be present to discuss the project.

Public sponsors of the Center are the Portland Development Commission, City of Portland, Oregon University System, Oregon Living Building Initiative, Portland+Oregon Sustainability Institute, and Portland Community College. The development team of Gerding Edlen Development, Green Building Services, GBD Architects and SERA Architects is currently completing a feasibility study for the Center as the first living building to be located in downtown Portland.
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Link to the Sustainability Center's webpage...

http://oregonsustainabilitycenter.wordpress.com/
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Write-up of last Friday's public presentation, from...
http://oregonsustainabilitycenter.wordpress.com/

Turnout was high at last Friday’s eco-charrette Open House, and so was the curiosity, as dozens of visitors – including Mayor Sam Adams – studied the collection of sketches and notes that were on view.

There was no building to unveil, and only one model (by THA Architecture) – a modest 3D basswood construction of the SW Portland neighborhood where the Oregon Sustainability Center could one day stand. At the corner of SW 5th and Montgomery, the model showed nothing. Just a white open space, an empty square that barely interrupted the east/west expanse of vegetation that marked Montgomery’s future as a green street.

Fitting, this blank space, for all of its potential. And inspiring, too, knowing that last week’s gathering of some of the region’s most well-versed experts in sustainable design was dedicated solely to filling this blank space.

Scanning the graphic illustrations that lined the room of the Open House, each overflowing with declarations and large, sweeping question marks, it was clear that the charrette succeeded in at least one of its objectives: to challenge assumptions, provoke, and ask more questions than provide answers.

Now comes the hard part, distilling these questions down to what Ralph DiNola of Green Building Services described as the OSC’s “basis of design”.
Some of the more salient points from the week, that will help to inform this basis of design, include:

Design Vision

What makes a building iconic?
Does this building need to be iconic?
What makes a building timeless?
What makes a building from this place?
How do we take advantage of the unique characteristics of the site?
How can all of the building systems be combined to create an integrated, elegant design?
How do we design a building today that is forward thinking in its design, anticipating strategies and technologies that will be available in two years and beyond?
Programming

How will the entire bioregion – not just Portland – experience the OSC?
How will the OSC transform its visitors and occupants?
Knowing that the Living Building Challenge requires proactive behavior from the building occupants in order to be successful, how can we encourage shifts in human behavior, and then positively reinforce them?
Research

How will the OSC maximize its function as a Living Laboratory?
What research opportunities can the OSC offer in terms of both information gathering and scientific research?
What information can we start to gather now, and what information will we want to gather later (thereby influencing the design of the building now)? [This includes researching “hardware” (materials, technologies) vs. “software” (processes, methods, practices for integrating materials and technologies) vs. “peopleware” (how occupants and neighbors interact with the building).]
Materials, Energy & Water

How will the building’s envelope harness energy/rainwater/habitat, and how will it connect its occupants to the outdoors?
How can we maximize passive energy sources?
Is it sustainable for every building to harness and reuse its own rainwater, or can we think of the building’s water use and re-use on the scale of an eco-district or watershed?
These are but a few of the myriad questions that were deliberated throughout the week.

No less provocative was a vision set forth by the Mayor when he spoke briefly to the crowd gathered last Friday. Noting the significance of the OSC for its potential to reinforce Portland’s position as one of the most sustainable cities in the United States, Adams suggested perhaps aiming higher. Why not strive to become one of the most sustainable cities in the world?

Now that’s a good question. Last Friday, at least, with the afterglow from the week’s creative marathon still buzzing around the room, striving to become the most sustainable city in the world didn’t really feel all that far from reach. So…why not?
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