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Old Posted Nov 26, 2006, 11:26 PM
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Also, I found the PDC report I was blabbering about. See page 12 re The Jeffrey. The pdf has info about various replacement schemes, one of which, it sounds like, has a chance of taking place.
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I'm kind of sad because there is a really nice little bar on the corner in this building... forgot the name - something like "river city..." - it will be a great loss to see it go.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2006, 11:32 PM
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As best as I understand it, here is the current plan for the site! Enjoy.

I highly suggest you guys take a look at the PDC's plan - lots of good info in it, including their pro forma.

I found it interesting that they were considering a "more affordable" market rate rental tower in addition to the condo tower; the market rental tower would have had 196 units, instead of 104 units for the condo tower. Condo tower will be 15 stories.

The second tower planned for the plaid pantry site will be 16 stories and have 270 units. Less than .5 parking spaces/unit.


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So this is going to be called West Park? So, here's to WePa.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2006, 1:52 AM
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Every time i see development in that area i think of the delano and how much it would have helped that area
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Nice imaging, zilfondel! If development occurs as you portray, that intersection certainly will feel "densified."
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I found it interesting that they were considering a "more affordable" market rate rental tower in addition to the condo tower; the market rental tower would have had 196 units, instead of 104 units for the condo tower. Condo tower will be 15 stories.

The second tower planned for the plaid pantry site will be 16 stories and have 270 units. Less than .5 parking spaces/unit.
Bear in mind that the PDC report is interesting and reflects what they were thinking at one time, but it's at least six months old. Also, all those buildings you added are different options, which I took to mean different mutually exclusive options. There's no plan to build them all.
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Bear in mind that the PDC report is interesting and reflects what they were thinking at one time, but it's at least six months old. Also, all those buildings you added are different options, which I took to mean different mutually exclusive options. There's no plan to build them all.
Actually, the plaid pantry & salmon street tower were referred to in the PDC document as completely unrelated development opportunities in the West End. As they are both market rate, they have no affordable housing limitations, and can be pursued by any developers as mixed-use projects.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2006, 7:29 AM
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I would really love to see that whole area be a hotbed of affordable housing, good rentals and affordable first time buyers condos. Making that area for the middle and lower incomes would keep it from becoming a Pearl feel. Plus more retail to cater to that area would be nice. Although, the Eliot has been taking time to fill its retail spaces.
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Every time i see development in that area i think of the delano and how much it would have helped that area
I TOTALLY agree
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Actually, the plaid pantry & salmon street tower were referred to in the PDC document as completely unrelated development opportunities in the West End. As they are both market rate, they have no affordable housing limitations, and can be pursued by any developers as mixed-use projects.
Great renderings of those, BTW. It really put some of the buildings in perspective. Also, when did they start calling this area West Park, and WHY? I like West End, and it encompasses Burnside to the University -- a much more logical neighborhood area. How many square blocks would West Park be, if it's smaller than the West End, I wonder
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Great renderings of those, BTW. It really put some of the buildings in perspective. Also, when did they start calling this area West Park, and WHY? I like West End, and it encompasses Burnside to the University -- a much more logical neighborhood area. How many square blocks would West Park be, if it's smaller than the West End, I wonder
I have no idea, I just copied the renderings from the PDC document that was linked to above. I think its safe to just continue calling the area the cultural district or museum district...
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Great renderings of those, BTW. It really put some of the buildings in perspective. Also, when did they start calling this area West Park, and WHY? I like West End, and it encompasses Burnside to the University -- a much more logical neighborhood area. How many square blocks would West Park be, if it's smaller than the West End, I wonder
Daily Journal of Commerce (Portland, OR)
Jan 12, 2006
by Kennedy Smith

Some are dubbing it the West Park Cultural District, the enclave in Southwest Portland that's home to the Portland Art Museum, the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall, a seasonal farmers market, Portland State University and the under-construction Eliot Tower.


Who are these "Some" people? Let's name names, then put them out of their misery before they invoke any more of those pithy place names like NoLo.

We already have the Cultural District, which IS the South Park Blocks, and the West End, which is between the Park Blocks and 405. Why confuse the two with some obscure hybrid?
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^^^ - kind of dumb, considering there is no park in the area, huh?

Well, I think the thing to do is in public conversation, refer to it by its proper name - and if you hear anyone using these stupid 'trendy' names, politely, but firmly, correct them. If they insist on using it, swap 'em over and give them a firm spanking.
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it's not very far from "West Park" to ..."Park West", is it?
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Six-story apartment project with 80 units eyed for southwest

Thursday, December 07, 2006
The Oregonian

While high-rise condos change Portland's skyline, the next downtown housing project hardly breaks the horizon. A local developer, E&F Properties, wants to build a six-story, 80-unit apartment building at 1139 S.W. 11th Ave., to be called The Jeffrey.

The Martha Washington building owned by Multnomah County would be The Jeffrey's northerly neighbor. The new building would replace the former Northwest Film Study Center building and a surface parking lot. Tentative plans include retail space on the ground floor and an outdoor courtyard.

Think tank slips out of Portland to 'safer' Washington County

Moving on: The Cascade Policy Institute, which describes itself as Oregon's free-market think tank, no longer will do its thinking downtown. The nonprofit moved last week to slightly larger digs at 4850 S.W. Scholls Ferry Road, just over the line into Washington County.

Cheaper rent and free parking were among the reasons, says Steve Buckstein, who founded Cascade in 1991. So was the, uh, ambience around the Woodlark Building at 813 S.W. Alder St.

"This part of downtown gives the appearance of being less safe, with the street people and panhandlers," Buckstein said during his final week at the Woodlark. "People don't want to come down here, people tell us. And women did not feel safe after dark."



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its this building right?

i like the clock
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2006, 4:42 AM
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the jeffrey replaces the parking lot and the film center building.
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Thursday, January 04, 2007
Fred Leeson
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A plan unfolding on Southwest 11th Avenue would erase a downtown landmark.

Just as well, some would say. We're talking about the Jefferson Theater, downtown's premier X-rated movie house for 35 years.

Developer Mark Fraser once thought of building condos nearby, on the site of a parking lot and smaller building at 1139 S.W. 11th Ave. The theater is on the same block, facing 12th Avenue and tucked inside a low-income apartment building.

But the theater's proximity made Fraser nervous. "It concerned us about investing in market-rate condos," he said.

But rather than give up, he entered talks with the Portland Development Commission, which bought the Jefferson West apartments and its theater lease in 2001 to preserve the low-income units.

The outcome? Fraser agreed, with help from subsidies for low-income housing, to build a six-story apartment building on the 1139 site to become the new home for about 80 Jefferson West tenants. Fraser would then buy Jefferson West from the PDC and build a condo project in its place. At that point -- Fraser estimates four years -- it would be adieu, Jefferson Theater.

The new low-income apartment building, called The Jeffrey, would include a library, a TV/computer room and an enclosed courtyard.

"For most tenants, we would be almost doubling the size of their space for the same rent," he said, describing many rooms at Jefferson West as about the size of a compact parking space, and with no common areas. "We believe that by moving those residents into a new environment, we can affect their behavior positively."

The new building would reserve 50 units for tenants earning up to 30 percent of median income, and 30 units for tenants in the 30 percent to 50 percent category. The building would be committed to low-income housing for at least 60 years.

When Fraser laid out his plans at a Portland Design Commission advisory meeting, Chairman Michael McCulloch asked why the low-income building wasn't larger. The zoning would allow a much taller structure.

Fraser said the building is intended to replace Jefferson West, not expand it. "The residents pay barely enough to meet operating expenses," he said. "Over time, you run into negative numbers. The more you build, the worse it gets." As it is, Fraser's plan meets the city's "no net loss" policy for low-income downtown housing.

Some unused development rights from the apartment site could be transferred to the condo project -- allowing for a taller tower, if city officials approve.

Gunnar Langhus, an associate with Ankrom Moisan architects, showed a plan for the apartment building depicting a facade of red brick and fiber-cement panels known as Swisspearl. "The real trick is to create longevity on a building that does not generate revenue," he said.

Design commission members raised a few quibbles about proportions on the facade, and Fraser and Langhus plan to return for another meeting soon. But they appeared headed toward an acceptable blueprint.

As commission member Jeff Stuhr said, "For affordable housing, it's one of the nicer projects we've seen."

Fred Leeson: 503-294-5946; fredleeson@news.oregonian.com
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