Homicide stats in Canadian Cities - Page 74

Darkoshvilli · #**1461** Posted **Jan 11, 2012, 2:42 AM**

Quebec City has 1 after a 19 year old male was stabbed. Montreal still at 0.

Vaillant · #**1462** Posted **Jan 11, 2012, 3:01 AM**

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Quebec City has 1 after a 19 year old male was stabbed. Montreal still at 0.

what about Montreal police shooting à Persian homeless in bonaventure metro last week??

Darkoshvilli · #**1463** Posted **Jan 11, 2012, 4:23 AM**

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what about Montreal police shooting à Persian homeless in bonaventure metro last week??

Police killings don't count as murders.

chrisallard5454 · #**1464** Posted **Jan 11, 2012, 4:51 AM**

Which really doesn't make any sense to me. I don't see how those who are supposed to be setting examples should be entitled to take a life without repercussions. Whether it is a 12 year old gangster, a 20 year old gangster, a great mother, a billionaire, innocent or guilty; a life is still a life. It may not be weighted as equal to those on the outside, but someone left before he should have.

artvandelay · #**1465** Posted **Jan 11, 2012, 5:58 AM**

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I believe the final tally was 45 for Edmonton.

Not to nitpick, but Edmonton recorded 47 officially with 2 more confirmed on New Years Eve, according to this story:Edmonton homicide rate may swell police numbers

It's likely that 2011 is an outlier, but the disparity between Calgary and Edmonton is amazing, and I think that a variety of factors are to blame - it's impossible to narrow it down to one thing.

Wigs · #**1466** Posted **Jan 14, 2012, 10:19 PM**

http://frontiermetropolis.com/produc.../deadmonton-2/

DizzyEdge · #**1467** Posted **Jan 14, 2012, 10:19 PM**

Looks like Calgary may have its first of the new year, homicide is investigating a dead body found after a break and enter complaint.

bulliver · #**1468** Posted **Jan 14, 2012, 10:30 PM**

^^ As a proud Edmontonian, I heartily endorse that shirt.

Also, I don't believe Edmonton has had a homicide in 2012 yet, and Calgary has, so for a few brief days or weeks I will be referring to Calgary as Alberta's murder capital

BretttheRiderFan · #**1469** Posted **Jan 14, 2012, 10:38 PM**

I wonder how many murders Calgary had in 2011 compared to Hobbema .....

bulliver · #**1470** Posted **Jan 14, 2012, 10:46 PM**

Couldn't find any hard numbers for Hobbema, looks like 5 or 6. A Sun article mentioned the per-capita rate was 4 times higher than Edmonton.

Wigs · #**1471** Posted **Jan 15, 2012, 12:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by bulliver

^^ As a proud Edmontonian, I heartily endorse that shirt...

you can get 20% off if you use coupon code: ssp
glad to see people see it as "tongue in cheek" or as a joke playing up the media stereotype like it's meant to. It wasn't meant to offend, although I'm sure some people will be

MTLskyline · #**1472** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:09 AM**

Someone was murdered in the parking lot of a Wendy's (one of only about 4 Wendy's in Montreal). It is the second murder of the year.
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=MontrealHome

Rico Rommheim · #**1473** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

Police killings don't count as murders.

That's a joke. I could start a vitriolic diatribe against the pigs like no one here ain't ever seen, but I value my life too much to have it ended by getting shot in the throat on busy peel and ste-Catherine for no reason or by getting tackled by four 250 pound wild boars while another tasers me to death.

Darkoshvilli · #**1474** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by MTLskyline

Someone was murdered in the parking lot of a Wendy's (one of only about 4 Wendy's in Montreal). It is the second murder of the year.
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=MontrealHome

When was the first one? I never saw anything on the news about it.

MTLskyline · #**1475** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

When was the first one? I never saw anything on the news about it.

I think this was the first: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...-arrested.html

I don't remember hearing about it either.

MrChills · #**1476** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 6:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by bulliver

^^ As a proud Edmontonian, I heartily endorse that shirt.

Also, I don't believe Edmonton has had a homicide in 2012 yet, and Calgary has, so for a few brief days or weeks I will be referring to Calgary as Alberta's murder capital

Why is that? It seems like finding any type of stats on native areas, whether it be reserves within the provinces, or even in larger centre in the north, they mostly non-existent.

Darkoshvilli · #**1477** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 6:19 AM**

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I think this was the first: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...-arrested.html

I don't remember hearing about it either.

That happened in December, so that can't be it.

vid · #**1478** Posted **Jan 21, 2012, 1:38 AM**

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Why is that? It seems like finding any type of stats on native areas, whether it be reserves within the provinces, or even in larger centre in the north, they mostly non-existent.

They keep track of it, but it isn't published, because the resources required to do so are lacking in small communities.

First Nations Bands are required by federal law to give the government information on where all of their members are located on a monthly basis, but there is apparently not regulation for keeping track of crime. It's likely because while the criminal code is federal, policing is provincial, and reserves do not have any form of provincial government to give those regulations. It's for that same reason that so many reserves have poor quality education systems, health care and infrastructure. Those are things that provinces are responsible for, but First Nations are a form of local government directly under the Federal government. And there is a reason countries as large as ours have provinces in the first place. It's to prevent this kind of disparity.

mr.John · #**1479** Posted **Jan 21, 2012, 2:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

That's a joke. I could start a vitriolic diatribe against the pigs like no one here ain't ever seen, but I value my life too much to have it ended by getting shot in the throat on busy peel and ste-Catherine for no reason or by getting tackled by four 250 pound wild boars while another tasers me to death.

they're too busy gunning down homeless people, remember last summer when those morons killed a bum along with an innocent bystander, I was in that area the next day and had a conversation with someone who knew the victim (the homeless man) he told me the so-called weapon he was carrying was a small pocket knife, I also had some interesting conversations with my cousin who's a supervisor at the worst station in Montreal (crime wise) located in St.Michel,let's put it this way he's not too impressed with the people under him. As a joke I told him I wanted to come on patrol with him when it's calm,he told me the only time it's calm in that dump is Sunday morning ,the rest of the time it's a fucking zoo

MTLskyline · #**1480** Posted **Jan 22, 2012, 12:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

That happened in December, so that can't be it.

According to Geneviève Dubé of the Montreal police, the first homicide of the year was that of a two-month-old girl. While the girl was found dead on Dec. 23, 2011, the mother was charged with second-degree murder on Jan. 12 of this year.
http://montreal.openfile.ca/blog/cur...p-2012-edition

Sounds like a weird legal technicality.